Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis
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Thank you Sega for not allowing people to make child like characters
As a sane, and normal human here, i for one am extremely happy that Sega are not catering towards the shadier members of society.

Sure there are a few legit players that like to play as small characters for role play reasons, but they are in the minority. I find it totally baffling the amount of creepy people that write walls of texts getting triggered that Sega are not allowing the POTENTIAL for pedophilic avatars in their games.

Those who agree with me, thank you, you are a decent human being.

Those who have not played this game before also, you will quickly notice there is a very creepy audience that play it generally, you will often stumble upon fury avatars grinding with eachother in the lobbies and other areas, 99% of the playerbase are female avatars dressed in skimpy clothing etc. Yet ironically 99% of the people that are roleplaying sexual fantasies with eachother are all men LOL.

Just be warned that if you are not into that kind of thing, it will shock you at how seriously people try to live their RL lives through this game. It is basically a cosplay social simulator akin to Second Life. The gameplay is secondary
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย X Lord X; 5 ส.ค. 2020 @ 5: 36am
โพสต์ต้นฉบับโดย Karnage:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zennie:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Nevzat:

Wrong, it is actually illegal in many countries, even anime/drawings etc. (Which IS the reason why Sega has complied with THE LAW.)
but like, blade an soul has lolis, and they dress skimpy. are you going to tell me NCWest is breaking the law? how about Tara Online? Is Blue Hole breaking the law too?
Children existing isn't illegal, nor are children being skimpy. The issue is that PSO2 allows you to do things that other games don't that directly violate US law. For example, the laws related to CP include masochism. That means that emotes like the recent KonoSuba one in which your character takes sexual pleasure from being physically beaten by sentient cabbages would violate this law if done on a child character. The laws also include general obscenity.

The most important thing about the law is that it states that these acts merely need to be simulated. Which means that anything sexual or obscene doesn't actually need to happen to the character is question. It would just have to appear that such acts are being done against them. So in other words, these loli characters existing aren't illegal. It's what you can do with them specifically in PSO2 that could violate US law.

Keep in mind that a US court has already charged a person for possessing drawn loli hentai in the US. A legal precedent has been set and the courts ruling has never been undone or challenged. Even Japan is starting to crack down on loli/shota within recent years.
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So are all loli and shota fans pedos or something?
I mean I don't even know man, but-
I'm not gonna argue with anyone about this, because it isn't worth it.

(And I'm sure nobody else wants to see loli girls running around half naked.)
Anything else is fine by me I guess.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Renvolt:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Eisakou:
So are all loli and shota fans pedos or something?
I mean I don't even know man, but-
I'm not gonna argue with anyone about this, because it isn't worth it.

(And I'm sure nobody else wants to see loli girls running around half naked.)
Anything else is fine by me I guess.

In my experience loli and shota fans hate children more than any other weeb.
I get why people think the reverse would be true but its actually kinda funny when you think about it.
Not really surprising tbh.
The anime look kinda makes them look like children regardless of being small, and we all know most people are gonna play female, as tons of guys do.
this entire thread is just as stupid as having a limit on how tall people are.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Renvolt:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DisneysFanGirl:
The anime look kinda makes them look like children regardless of being small, and we all know most people are gonna play female, as tons of guys do.

I mean the game kinda assumes you play female since most of the decent end game content is female exclusive.
Like male stuff doesnt look bad but you can tell where the budget went
Shouldn't matter, unless of course you like wearing women's clothing.
i want to know wha realt child had freakishly large anime eyes and heads so we can get them corrective surgery to make them human again


https://youtu.be/hOMuRopLgxg
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Seraphina:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ★ Roriko ☆:
As someone said before, Short does not equal kid, and loli doesn't always mean underage ( a woman can be called/categorized as" loli" purely based on their shortness and small/flat chest), there are plenty of irl women that look/sound underage but when you check they are actually 26 and over ( look alot of japanese women for example)
Sorry to say that you're factually wrong. A loli IS an underage girl. People misusing this word to define adults are pretty much ruining the true definition of the word. Actually not even sure why people do that when I thought the definition of loli was crystal clear. People want to be ignorant.

Since you're, ironically, speaking about people being ignorant let me educate you on why YOU're dead wrong [romantic-siblings.fandom.com].


:myougiLaugh:
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย Bianca Bombyx; 9 ส.ค. 2020 @ 3: 27pm
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ★ Roriko ☆:
Since you're speaking about people being ignorant let me educate you on Why you're Wrong [romantic-siblings.fandom.com].


:myougiLaugh:
Excuse me but you call that evidence? Thank you for proving my point, I guess. In fact, it does exactly proves my point. Ignorance and calling lolis what are not lolis. Why did you even go for such a poor attempt? All you're doing is continuing the path of misinformation. Jeez, I swear...

People never listen. Not sure what kind of pride you take from being wrong but take it back...

"Information inspired by, taken from, and expanded upon from the Urban Dictionary" Yeowch.
:steamfacepalm:
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย Seraphita; 9 ส.ค. 2020 @ 3: 29pm
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Renvolt:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Seraphina:
Excuse me but you call that evidence? Thank you for proving my point, I guess. In fact, it does exactly proves my point. Ignorance and calling lolis what are not lolis. Why did you even go for such a poor attempt? All you're doing is continuing the path of misinformation. Jeez, I swear...

People never listen. Not sure what kind of pride you take from being wrong but take it back...

"Information inspired by, taken from, and expanded upon from the Urban Dictionary" Yeowch.
:steamfacepalm:


You do realize legal lolis are a thing right?
And i dont mean the "700 yo dragon" trope i mean 18+ characters who look like lolis.
Infact that trope is based on real people who are very short and lacking in the chest area.
legal loli is impossible its a retarded term made by ironic memer le epic "18+ loli aheago hoodie" ♥♥♥♥ its a contradiction in its self loli isnt bod type its age kink :o) :nf_worm:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Renvolt:
You do realize legal lolis are a thing right?
And i dont mean the "700 yo dragon" trope i mean 18+ characters who look like lolis.
Infact that trope is based on real people who are very short and lacking in the chest area.
It doesn't make them real lolis. Can't help people who misuse the word and thankfully I'll never do that since I find it absolutely weird. Lolis are underaged girls, that's all. You're free to use the word however you want, just don't go think I'll understand what you mean if it's not the real term.

I will never see 18+ as loli since they are adult. You could argue they have a loli body but then you enter another type of thing. True loli as anime made them are the cute young girls that are underaged. If you tell me the word "loli", it's what I'll see. Not an adult, not some pre-adult. Loli.

In fact, the same applies for shota. You better give convincing arguments if you want to tell me that shota applies to adult when it doesn't. There's a reason why it means "Young boy". Geez. :ftired:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Javbus:
legal loli is impossible its a retarded term made by ironic memer le epic "18+ loli aheago hoodie" ♥♥♥♥ its a contradiction in its self loli isnt bod type its age kink :o) :nf_worm:
I would not even be surprised if that was true, considering what arguments people come up with.
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย Seraphita; 9 ส.ค. 2020 @ 3: 45pm
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Renvolt:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Javbus:
legal loli is impossible its a retarded term made by ironic memer le epic "18+ loli aheago hoodie" ♥♥♥♥ its a contradiction in its self loli isnt bod type its age kink :o) :nf_worm:

Literally every part of your sentence is objectively wrong
Age, not body. "Objectively wrong but I can't prove it" doesn't work well for an argument. Let's be serious... When did people suddenly become supposedly knowledgeable in terms of loli but try in the same breath to convince me that body type means loli...? None of you saw loli before or...?

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Renvolt:
Look at the neptunia series Blanc/White Heart is referred to as a loli in the series, same goes for alot of anime too like PSG and Steins;Gate.
idk about you but i feel like the anime industry knows their own terms a little better than some rando on steam
... :steamfacepalm: You realize that anime industry is my source for the term and that I did my search about it too, right? In fact, you don't need to be a genius to know what a loli is if you even watch a bit of anime. They are here and there in anime and they are generally 12 or less. >.> Wtf, guys...?
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย Seraphita; 9 ส.ค. 2020 @ 3: 51pm
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Renvolt:
Im talking about you saying legal lolis arnt a thing not that lolis are NEVER used as child characters
Lolis ARE child characters. Nice breaking of quotes, btw. Another thing, since you guys like to throw bad information links around, I checked around and neptunia characters don't even have the loli tags, added to the fact that many don't seem to be fooled by this silly misinformation...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/620272-playstation-vita/69533411

Oh and feel free to say "But it's not a good source". No factual sources say they are loli sooo...
Arguing semantics over the term "loli" has no bearing on the original topic brought up in the OP. It is talking in general about characters that appear underage.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Renvolt:
For someone who acts like they are smarter than everyone else you sure do seem to have issues with reading.
Nice fallacy right here but I read and I still don't agree. And reading your post, I'd return that comment back to you. Lolis ARE children character. That is all. Like Shota for young boy, loli means young girl. Not "old flat chested girl" or whatever similar idea you seem to have of loli...

I use the real term for what it's defined for, exactly so people understand what I mean when I talk about it. Going so vague as to call EVERY anime girls a loli or almost by your definition isn't what I call productive. Only reason "legal loli" is a thing is nothing but a thing about body size that you seem to use a bit too comfortably. At the end of the day, all you did was argue a silly debate...

If you really want to end this discussion with flinging insults, feel free but if you're smart, you'll realize how pointless that was, especially when it comes to the actual topic. What did we even accomplish here by arguing semantics that lead to absolutely nothing at all? Exactly, nothing!

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Bagel Bear:
Arguing semantics over the term "loli" has no bearing on the original topic brought up in the OP. It is talking in general about characters that appear underage.
True but to be fair, this thread amounted to nothing but a fight between SWJs and others and it will continue infinitely since clearly nobody want to think and debate rationally. Endless fight...
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย Seraphita; 9 ส.ค. 2020 @ 4: 24pm
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