summoning potion

[Blackflux]

are they worth making,having another powerful minion would be nice but i'm usually too lazy to farm that kind of stuff XD

[VagueCryptid]

If you are playing a dedicated summoner, ABSOLUTELY.
If you are using it as an extra damage source, Kinda.

It is crucial that you have extra summons later in the game, and for fighting the tougher early bosses, like WoF and Prime.

Just need to get a little into fishing.

[Celator]

Originally posted by Ninjathis:

If you are playing a dedicated summoner, ABSOLUTELY.
If you are using it as an extra damage source, Kinda.

It is crucial that you have extra summons later in the game, and for fighting the tougher early bosses, like WoF and Prime.

Just need to get a little into fishing.

I second this. If you're a dedicated summoner then they'll give you a pretty big edge, but otherwise they're not terribly necessary unless you just need that extra sliver of DPS to beat that boss.

You should be fishing and growing herbs anyway to get other potions like Lifeforce and Endurance, though.

[Blackflux]

Originally posted by Ninjathis:

If you are playing a dedicated summoner, ABSOLUTELY.
If you are using it as an extra damage source, Kinda.

It is crucial that you have extra summons later in the game, and for fighting the tougher early bosses, like WoF and Prime.

Just need to get a little into fishing.

prime and WOF,that's funny XD but now i wonder how long prime would be with my 600 damage stardust dragon and,dedicated is a strong word xD i don't main it but i have been using it a lot lately and i'm having the worst problem as a summoner,WHAT SHOULD MY SUB CLASS BE!!! i'm between magic and melee (ranged melee,like daybreak and north pole carpet bombing since star cells attack when you hit something)

[E X P A N S I O N P A C K]

Originally posted by knuj01:

Originally posted by Ninjathis:

If you are playing a dedicated summoner, ABSOLUTELY.
If you are using it as an extra damage source, Kinda.

It is crucial that you have extra summons later in the game, and for fighting the tougher early bosses, like WoF and Prime.

Just need to get a little into fishing.

prime and WOF,that's funny XD but now i wonder how long prime would be with my 600 damage stardust dragon and,dedicated is a strong word xD i don't main it but i have been using it a lot lately and i'm having the worst problem as a summoner,WHAT SHOULD MY SUB CLASS BE!!! i'm between magic and melee (ranged melee,like daybreak and north pole carpet bombing since star cells attack when you hit something)

go with range as a sub so you can use S.D.M.G., clorophyte bullets AND minions

[Celator]

Originally posted by knuj01:

WHAT SHOULD MY SUB CLASS BE!!! i'm between magic and melee

Neither, use guns. Summoners don't have the mana to get full mileage out of magic weapons and guns are stronger than melee weapons when you aren't wearing gear that boosts either.

[Blackflux]

Originally posted by CellarDoor96:

Originally posted by knuj01:

WHAT SHOULD MY SUB CLASS BE!!! i'm between magic and melee

Neither, use guns. Summoners don't have the mana to get full mileage out of magic weapons and guns are stronger than melee weapons when you aren't wearing gear that boosts either.

well i did melee xD i may switch to range but i'm too lazy to get ammo right now,i was about to make a discussion about it

[VagueCryptid]

I was just using those 2 bosses as an example, as you didn't say how far you were in. And the summons you get at that point are rather weak.

But I recommend using Ranged as well, as the guy above explains. You need mana incase you're placing summons and such, and Melee makes you take too much damage, and Summoner armor is pretty weak, defense wise.

[Blackflux]

Originally posted by Ninjathis:

I was just using those 2 bosses as an example, as you didn't say how far you were in. And the summons you get at that point are rather weak.

But I recommend using Ranged as well, as the guy above explains. You need mana incase you're placing summons and such, and Melee makes you take too much damage, and Summoner armor is pretty weak, defense wise.

there is a ranged melee(daybreak,north pole holds flying enemy's down and when there hit my star cells hit

[VagueCryptid]

I guess, but Guns and Bows don't require you to be within a certain amount of blocks or have to aim very much(Chlorophyte). You can just shoot your SDMG around with Chloro-Bullets, and do infinitely more than a Daybreak.

[Celator]

Originally posted by knuj01:

there is a ranged melee(daybreak,north pole holds flying enemy's down and when there hit my star cells hit

The advantage of ranged weapons is DPS and piercing vs. non-piercing, not range. When you're playing a summoner you usually want to use weapons that aren't piercing, since enemies can't be damaged by two sources of piercing damage at the same time and most summons are piercing. Most melee weapons are piercing, too (even Daybreak, it just stops dealing direct damage before it can hit more than once), but guns are not piercing unless you use Meteorite or Luminite bullets. I guess you could say the same of bows, but the strongest pre-Moon Lord arrows (Holy) have a piercing side effect and after Moon Lord the SDMG is superior to any bow.

I think Vampire Knives are the only endgame melee weapon that doesn't deal piercing damage, besides the Terrarian (its homing shots are piercing, though), so they work fairly well with a summoner. You'll still want a gun for DPS purposes, though. Also, with a gun, you can use Ichor Bullets and not only deal tons of damage with the gun itself but also strengthen your summons at the same time.

[Blackflux]

Originally posted by CellarDoor96:

Originally posted by knuj01:

there is a ranged melee(daybreak,north pole holds flying enemy's down and when there hit my star cells hit

The advantage of ranged weapons is DPS and piercing vs. non-piercing, not range. When you're playing a summoner you usually want to use weapons that aren't piercing, since enemies can't be damaged by two sources of piercing damage at the same time and most summons are piercing. Most melee weapons are piercing, too (even Daybreak, it just stops dealing direct damage before it can hit more than once), but guns are not piercing unless you use Meteorite or Luminite bullets. I guess you could say the same of bows, but the strongest pre-Moon Lord arrows (Holy) have a piercing side effect and after Moon Lord the SDMG is superior to any bow.

I think Vampire Knives are the only endgame melee weapon that doesn't deal piercing damage, besides the Terrarian (its homing shots are piercing, though), so they work fairly well with a summoner. You'll still want a gun for DPS purposes, though. Also, with a gun, you can use Ichor Bullets and not only deal tons of damage with the gun itself but also strengthen your summons at the same time.

ichor S.D.M.G...i may do that,thanks!!! i even made a little moonglow farm for summon potions but i made a nice fishing spot for the fish so summoning potions shouldn't be so hard to get,i can get my stardust dragon to 700+dmg with max summon's,and that's if i don't(and i won't) make the...uh..wrath potion?

[Celator]

Originally posted by knuj01:

ichor S.D.M.G...i may do that,thanks!!! i even made a little moonglow farm for summon potions but i made a nice fishing spot for the fish so summoning potions shouldn't be so hard to get,i can get my stardust dragon to 700+dmg with max summon's,and that's if i don't(and i won't) make the...uh..wrath potion?

If you're using the Stardust Dragon then a Summoning Potion will help it more than a Wrath Potion, so that's fine.

Also, if you're worried about ammo like you mentioned, then you can just buy four stacks of Musket Balls from the Arms Dealer and make yourself an Endless Musket Pouch at a placed Crystal Ball. It'll be slightly weaker than if you used Ichor or Chlorophyte Bullets, but it's good enough for everything but endgame bosses and it'll still be stronger than any melee weapon.

Oh, and a note: Moon Lord is immune to the Ichor debuff, so if you're planning on fighting him with this setup, use Chlorophyte instead.

[Blackflux]

Originally posted by CellarDoor96:

Originally posted by knuj01:

ichor S.D.M.G...i may do that,thanks!!! i even made a little moonglow farm for summon potions but i made a nice fishing spot for the fish so summoning potions shouldn't be so hard to get,i can get my stardust dragon to 700+dmg with max summon's,and that's if i don't(and i won't) make the...uh..wrath potion?

If you're using the Stardust Dragon then a Summoning Potion will help it more than a Wrath Potion, so that's fine.

Also, if you're worried about ammo like you mentioned, then you can just buy four stacks of Musket Balls from the Arms Dealer and make yourself an Endless Musket Pouch at a placed Crystal Ball. It'll be slightly weaker than if you used Ichor or Chlorophyte Bullets, but it's good enough for everything but endgame bosses and it'll still be stronger than any melee weapon.

Oh, and a note: Moon Lord is immune to the Ichor debuff, so if you're planning on fighting him with this setup, use Chlorophyte instead.

or sit next to the nurse with a stardust dragon waiting....
i should get her a new house for events