World hopping

[Pawlogates]

Who else considers using multiple worlds for a playthrough to be kind of cheaty? Terraria now more than ever seems to be designed magnificently around a single world and character and using multiple worlds for a single playtgrough seems to me like it takes away from this incredible progression and commitment to how my world generated during a particular playthough. Is anyone feeling similar? Nearly everyone seems to consoder world hopping as the most valid way to play the game and I just cant shake the feeling that it takes so much away from the experience. Thanks for reading.

[wcc]

I think it was not originally designed for world hopping, but for multiple playthroughs offering (slightly) different content. And at least for me it's nice to get somewhat invested in a world, forming it so it works for you, exploring all its hidden corners for just this one heart statue, project it from the Corruption/Crimson etc.
That said, especially in MP you might just lack of some items for each player, like Spiked Shoes or a Radar (okay, second one could be found in a crate, but it rare af). In that case, I tend to create dummy world just to grap those items and delete it afterwards.

[Pawlogates]

Thats exacly how I play too. Glad to see someone finally lol

[Winter Wolf]

A couple points. In a multiplayer game, agreed upon standards should indicate whether "hopping" is cheating. The world owner having priority. In solo play, it is upon the individual to decide how loose they want to play. There is no great advantage to world hopping in solo because you need to have gone through the same steps on any world you play on. Though sometimes starting over with an old character short cuts some of the tedium. Not sure I'd think of that as cheating. The ability to go from world to world is definitely not a glitch or against the game rules in anyway and is in fact a feature that can make play more pleasant. Especially since one focus of the game has always been building and collecting is another. Those things encourage using multiple worlds. (One to level up your play on and another to perfect.)

For *me* when I am doing a playthrough or a challenge run, I avoid world hopping because my personal rules are "do the task at hand/don't get distracted by multiple worlds, etc". What meaning does a drow challenge (no going above ground on purpose) have if you hop that character from world to world or bring in other characters without that restriction? None imho. But that's my personal quirk not an ethic for the player base. This feature would not exist if it were not intended to be used however the player wishes to use it.


I have 2100+ hours in the game now and I probably would not have had half that if replayability was restricted by not allowing world hopping.

[Sbeve]

Kind of do, yeah. Wish there was an option to obtain every single item in the game without worldhopping.

[Jostabeere]

Originalmente postado por Winter Wolf:

A couple points. In a multiplayer game, agreed upon standards should indicate whether "hopping" is cheating.

It does not break any rules of the game, so how can it be cheating?

If some host forbids me to hop on a different world if I wanna do so, he can play with himself next time.
It is basically like if you play football with some dude, you get a goal and he calls you a cheater and say you cannot score goals.

[BoltHarrier]

Some worlds cant have both dark biomes, and some dont have all the materials. Id say the game is better for jumping between two worlds at once, one corrupt, one blight or whatever its called

[Winter Wolf]

Originalmente postado por Jostabeere:

Originalmente postado por Winter Wolf:

A couple points. In a multiplayer game, agreed upon standards should indicate whether "hopping" is cheating.

It does not break any rules of the game, so how can it be cheating?

If some host forbids me to hop on a different world if I wanna do so, he can play with himself next time.
It is basically like if you play football with some dude, you get a goal and he calls you a cheater and say you cannot score goals.

I think you misunderstood the point made by that sentence. I don't do a lot of multiplayer but as I understand it where controversy sometimes arises is when there is disagreement over whether you can bring equipment/old characters or must start a new. Obviously if you don't like the world owner's rules you can always just not play with them. That does not change that they made the rules. I assume most players who want to multiplayer will choose to agree upon such rules ahead of time instead of it just being fiat.

[Sbeve]

Originalmente postado por Jostabeere:

Originalmente postado por Winter Wolf:

A couple points. In a multiplayer game, agreed upon standards should indicate whether "hopping" is cheating.

It does not break any rules of the game, so how can it be cheating?

If some host forbids me to hop on a different world if I wanna do so, he can play with himself next time.
It is basically like if you play football with some dude, you get a goal and he calls you a cheater and say you cannot score goals.

i'm gonna bring this zenith to a brand new terraria playthrough, technically not cheating because i obtained it legit and worldhopped

[Poyzo]

The worlds I play don't always have the items I want. EX: I'm looking for a Living Loom and my world doesn't have it. Am I suppose to just say oh well and continue on? No, I'm going to world hop to get the items I need.

[Jostabeere]

Originalmente postado por Sbeve:

Originalmente postado por Jostabeere:

It does not break any rules of the game, so how can it be cheating?

If some host forbids me to hop on a different world if I wanna do so, he can play with himself next time.
It is basically like if you play football with some dude, you get a goal and he calls you a cheater and say you cannot score goals.

i'm gonna bring this zenith to a brand new terraria playthrough, technically not cheating because i obtained it legit and worldhopped

What's the argument? It isn't cheating. It isn't non-legit. If you want to, do so.

[Sbeve]

Originalmente postado por Jostabeere:

Originalmente postado por Sbeve:

i'm gonna bring this zenith to a brand new terraria playthrough, technically not cheating because i obtained it legit and worldhopped

What's the argument? It isn't cheating. It isn't non-legit. If you want to, do so.

no, but it isnt ethical nor fun, a bit like worldhopping

[Kirbo]

Well I switch worlds but its only to crimson//corruption only stuff

[RoofCat]

Originalmente postado por Pawlogates:

... Terraria now more than ever seems to be designed magnificently around a single world and character ....

it burns

Terraria... designed... around character...

Terraria is a mess with no balance like regular rpg, fps, moba or anything. It's wild west of bs. Classes here don't really exist. Nor balance. Worlds are random af and weapons even worse. It's troll game. You want to be trolled, play it with single map, grind hard, fish a lot for missing metals, buy other world seeds in graveyard and create your own biomes.

But why waste 50 h when all you want is game and the result is the same? Sure, you will miss eye OR brain of cthulhu, but that's about it I suppose.

[Jostabeere]

Originalmente postado por RoofCat:

Terraria is a mess with no balance like regular rpg, fps, moba or anything. It's wild west of bs. Classes here don't really exist. Nor balance. Worlds are random af and weapons even worse. It's troll game. You want to be trolled, play it with single map, grind hard, fish a lot for missing metals, buy other world seeds in graveyard and create your own biomes.

But why waste 50 h when all you want is game and the result is the same? Sure, you will miss eye OR brain of cthulhu, but that's about it I suppose.

God, how can one be so mad about something he doesn't understand in the slightest?

[wcc]

Originalmente postado por RoofCat:

Originalmente postado por Pawlogates:

... Terraria now more than ever seems to be designed magnificently around a single world and character ....

it burns :lunar2019crylaughingpig:

Terraria... designed... around character...

Terraria is a mess with no balance like regular rpg, fps, moba or anything. It's wild west of bs. Classes here don't really exist. Nor balance. Worlds are random af and weapons even worse. It's troll game. You want to be trolled, play it with single map, grind hard, fish a lot for missing metals, buy other world seeds in graveyard and create your own biomes.

But why waste 50 h when all you want is game and the result is the same? Sure, you will miss eye OR brain of cthulhu, but that's about it I suppose.

What's you point with "classes don't exist"? You can shows between many different playstyles and strategies. That's what makes the game interesting.
And what exactly is you problem with the randomness? There can be lucky finds, but for the most parts you can compensate for bad luck with some grinding - or being lucky at some other drop. I don't understand what you're pointing at here.
What do you mean with "miss eye or brain"? I suppose you mean "worm or brain"; but I still don't get you point. That the game just offers like 200 h of content (normal + expert/master playthrough) before you've seen everything?