Element TD 2
This tower defense game is TOO COMPLEX
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ man my brain hurts.. I don't think I'm cut out for this work.. Game is fun but it's overwhelming..
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Are you going right into multiplayer or playing the campaign? Campaign is pretty well paced and gives you access to limited options at a time to help you learn the strengths/weaknesses of each tower type and how to counter/manage enemy buffs. The complexity it what makes it more fun long term.
Neo Typhoon Alpha Oct 4, 2021 @ 10:30am 
Originally posted by BigMoneyMeatSpin#MillionSpinHype:
Are you going right into multiplayer or playing the campaign? Campaign is pretty well paced and gives you access to limited options at a time to help you learn the strengths/weaknesses of each tower type and how to counter/manage enemy buffs. The complexity it what makes it more fun long term.
I'm playing campaign.. God I must be mentally challenged.. I'm sorry..
shbouwhuis Dec 22, 2021 @ 2:27pm 
You are not the only one. I'm a little puzzled by the XP/skill points. I only buy level 1 and level 2 towers. All the other ones are too expensive (both from skill points point of view and from buying/upgrading them in-game point of view).

I basically only use the lightning strike and howitzer and sometimes bloom. That's how I completed all but the final map on hard.

I tried the Nuclear tower once on that volcano ascent map which was extremely useful. But for most maps those towers are too expensive to take with you.
Last edited by shbouwhuis; Dec 22, 2021 @ 2:48pm
It's pretty challenging a lot of times if you don't have max skill points, generally speaking it's usually a good idea to go with the recommended towers if possible and keep in mind it's nigh always better to level up the turrets you have placed over placing new ones. Also during the breaks on every 5th wave you can sell your towers for the full price & reposition them wherever needed.
shbouwhuis Dec 23, 2021 @ 4:07am 
Wait, what?
When you have that break you can sell your towers for FULL price?!?!?!?!?
Normally, you lose something (25% or so?)
Aidanya Dec 23, 2021 @ 6:52am 
The campaign wasnt made for the new 4 element towers.
I guess they somewhat complicate everything.
They are also quite niche and you are better off making some 3-element towers unless you know what you are doing.

I completed all levels on 5 stars before quad-element towers were released.
It was quite doable and well paced than.
Originally posted by shbouwhuis:
Wait, what?
When you have that break you can sell your towers for FULL price?!?!?!?!?
Normally, you lose something (25% or so?)

Yeah that is part of the balance behind some of the campaign maps where you have to sell and reorganize your towers.
Originally posted by Aidanya:
The campaign wasnt made for the new 4 element towers.
I guess they somewhat complicate everything.
They are also quite niche and you are better off making some 3-element towers unless you know what you are doing.

I completed all levels on 5 stars before quad-element towers were released.
It was quite doable and well paced than.

I made the opposite experience, most campaign maps aren't meant for quad towers to exist and if you build them 2 or 3 of them (mostly it doesn't matter which ones) win the map and full stars quite easily. The problem is that, as you say, you need to know what you do overall, cause that requires some competent interest farming during the earlier waves.

The "problem" with the 4 element towers is more that some of them just aren't good and borderline harmful, e.g. the gravity cannon, while others, like Obelisk, Tsunami and Phantom Zone are like older turrets but on steroids.

Edit: I am strictly talking about the campaign, I haven't played Multiplayer and I am sure that the towers are balanced for that, so I don't want to say "pls change anything".
Last edited by A Ballad from Nocturne; Dec 23, 2021 @ 8:30am
Arqwart Dec 30, 2021 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by Nick:
Originally posted by BigMoneyMeatSpin#MillionSpinHype:
Are you going right into multiplayer or playing the campaign? Campaign is pretty well paced and gives you access to limited options at a time to help you learn the strengths/weaknesses of each tower type and how to counter/manage enemy buffs. The complexity it what makes it more fun long term.
I'm playing campaign.. God I must be mentally challenged.. I'm sorry..
My recommendation is to stick to a core set of towers that you're comfortable with and feel complement each other well. There are some wrenches the campaign throws into things later via monster effects, but using just 3-4 elements and 4-5 main towers can keep things relatively simple.

My go to baseline setup is to use 2 damage-centric towers of different elements, 1 buff tower, 1 increased damage taken / damage amplification tower, and 1 slowing tower.

1. There are multiple three-element towers that slow.

2. There are multiple three-element towers that make enemies take increased damage. There's also the Jinx three-element tower that doesn't make enemies take more damage, but does bursts of damage every few seconds based on damage taken during the debuff.

3. There's attack speed (Well) and damage (Blacksmith) buffing towers that complement most any combination. Just be wary of the Curse monster effect later in the campaign as it removes buffs.

4. Buff towers do attack on their own. They don't just buff.

5. Some damage towers do damage up front while others do damage over time. Some damage towers focus on area of effect while others focus on single-target. Try to use two that you feel complement well.

6. With larger, multi-portal levels with different paths, focus on making tower "clumps" of your chosen combo. It helps to make sure each lane on the map has consistent damage, slow, debuff, etc. towers placed together to cover as needed.

7. Mix and match your combo as needed to get a feel for different towers and to help with element resistances on levels where there's only a few monster types.

8. On the tower screen before a level, you can right click towers, tower levels, tower specification upgrades (the ones under each tower), and global buffs (the ones on the right of the tower screen) to freely remove them and get your points back so mixing and matching is easy.

9. I HIGHLY recommend getting increased income (first global buff on the right of the tower screen) ASAP. The 5/10/15% increased bounty bonus goes really far imo.

10. You can upgrade the base 1-element towers in the tower screen. While this is required to upgrade the respective 2/3-element towers, it also allows you to upgrade the 1-element towers within a game. For example, Darkness Tower lvl 2 does considerably more damage than lvl 1 while still having the bounce effect on kill. Makes for a great backup tower towards the end of a lane to pick off stragglers, especially when combined with a well.

An example of the go-to combo I use is Jinx, Corrosive, Nova or Windstorm, Quake, Impulse or Astral, and Well. Jinx acts as a damage complement, Corrosive increases damage taken, Nova / Windstorm slow, Quake does ok single-target damage and consistent AoE, Impulse / Astral are long-range with good single-target, and Well increases attack speed to help with Quake's AoE. My tower "clumps" have the Corrosive, Jinx, and slowing towers towards the front so the debuffs can be placed as they reach the Quake towers. Astral / Impulse towers have long ranges so they're generally nearby the clumps in spots that maximize how many areas they can shoot at. Wells can buff up to 4 towers at once so I generally have 2-3 with a small bit of overlap of which other towers they can buff as needed to ensure most (if not all) towers have the buff up at the same time.
Last edited by Arqwart; Dec 30, 2021 @ 3:39pm
I LIVE AGAIN Jan 8, 2022 @ 8:33pm 
Play Fortnite then.
Originally posted by ^1Shep^8ardov:
Play Fortnite then.

I do. I just went past level 100 and got all of my battle pass skins. Just picked up the Cobra Kai skins and attended the All-Valley Fortnite tournament. :)
NoTToXiC Jan 16, 2022 @ 10:04pm 
nah dude once you get settled in and figure out what your doing with combos and stuff you should be aight see what meshes with you to succeed in this TD
Captain Cosmo Feb 26, 2022 @ 8:04am 
I feel you, man. I've played Element TD since it was a custom map on Warcraft 3, but even after all this time I still have to do mental gymnastics from time to time. There's a flow to it, and there's times you'll have to sell some towers to put new ones up in optimal places. You learn as you go and it can be a bit tricky, but the most important thing is keep your cool and don't dog on yourself if you fail. This game has always rewarded persistence with power - you watch the guys, you learn their moves and weaknesses, and slam them the on the rematch. Then it feels really good, because you conquered what you thought was unbeatable before; you can look back and feel that progress you've made.

Probably one of the best tricks I can impart to you is learn the combos of the stuff that really works best for you. Like for me, I like Lightning Towers, so that's Light and Fire. They work good with Ice Towers, which are Light and Water. Water and Fire make Vapor, which is a good tower too. Just an idea for you to try. Light has the longest range, so it can sometimes stop that guy near the gate that just needs another hit.
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