Did this guy cheat?

[hoodedclaw]

My TV was 1.56, his was 1.65. I had 13 players Chaos (standard roster of troll, 4 chaos warrior, beastmen to fill, all with some skills from campaign + 3 rerolls) and was granted 90k inducements.

While he should not have had any inducements, he had a full roster orcs (a bunch of skills on them), + Helmut Wulf, + 8 (!) rerolls. 8 rerolls seems a lot, particularly with a star player.

My thinking is - he must have paid for the star player and the extra rerolls from his own team earnings offline - does that sound about right? If so, I guess that's not cheating. I beat him, but his extra gold did seem to skew the odds in his favour.

[Hendricus]

His reroll TV was 0.4, Helmut is also not that expensive. He can earn online too, what makes you think he did that offline ? Before calling someone a cheater I suggest after your thinking, you think again. The argument that you guess he is not cheating made the most sense. His extra gold used would give you some prayers of Nuffle. You did not mention that at all.

[hoodedclaw]

Cool. I am learning - that was my first online match. So - to understand:

- you reckon he used "personal" gold (i.e. not factored into team value, earned on or offline) to buy extra teamrolls?
- the game balances out people who use such "personal" gold (i.e. not in team value) by granting prayers of nuffle?

I did not know this. It sounds... yeah, fair-er? The whole experience was enjoyable, although he killed my troll, and winning against 8 rerolls feels good. We gg'ed eachother courteously afterwards.

But - to understand: people we play can use "other" gold for inducements in online play? And the game balances this out with prayers of nuffle?

[mrsir]

Originally posted by hoodedclaw:

Cool. I am learning - that was my first online match. So - to understand:

- you reckon he used "personal" gold (i.e. not factored into team value, earned on or offline) to buy extra teamrolls?
- the game balances out people who use such "personal" gold (i.e. not in team value) by granting prayers of nuffle?

I did not know this. It sounds... yeah, fair-er? The whole experience was enjoyable, although he killed my troll, and winning against 8 rerolls feels good. We gg'ed eachother courteously afterwards.

But - to understand: people we play can use "other" gold for inducements in online play? And the game balances this out with prayers of nuffle?

Any gold he used had to have been gained with that team. If it was a online league allowing experienced teams to join then he could have gained the gold in other modes, but if it was the pre-season ladder then all gold will have been earned playing the ladder against other players.

Their TV could be lower and they still have a lot of gold if they have decided to fire a lot of players and hire some new ones, using a team that they have already played extensively.

This is the mechanics of the game, TV fluctuates as players die/get injured but gold is eaned every match. As there is no rule implemented in BB3 limiting gold reserves (there is a rule in BB2 that does this), you will always have the possibility of meeting rich teams with low TV if they are teams that have been played a lot.

No cheating involved.

[hoodedclaw]

Brilliant - this is good to know! So - a low TV team could have massive reserves, pour them into star players/inducements etc - and be much more powerful on the pitch than on the screen?

It sounds great. I love the chaos of the game: that he had spent reserves: that I managed to squeeze a win anyway.

Cheers for helping me learn it. I may pop back in with other questions, the further I venture online.

[Eldril Sidewinder]

Originally posted by mrsir:

Originally posted by hoodedclaw:

This is the mechanics of the game, TV fluctuates as players die/get injured but gold is eaned every match. As there is no rule implemented in BB3 limiting gold reserves (there is a rule in BB2 that does this), you will always have the possibility of meeting rich teams with low TV if they are teams that have been played a lot.

No cheating involved.

Depending on side, the easiest or toughest match-ups are when a team has a ton of CAS and plays the next game with 2-3 very skilled players vs a starting team at 1k. Very true at least for agility teams where those "star" players can be everywhere and anywhere.

[Ozius]

In the old BB ruleset, any gold you had beyond 150k increased your TV. I think every 100k would add 100 to your TV but may be misremembering.

Has this been brought forward into the new ruleset?