AI vs. AI

[Lance Lake]

I stream Blood Bowl weekly using BB1 because it's the only one that allows AI vs. AI. Please, allow BB3 to allow AI vs. AI matches for not only us streamers, but for those who want to play a more "GM mode" game.

Please developers.. I want to upgrade from BB1 for my stream.

[KingCoward]

Would be a nice little feature for kinda a bit more heavy coach roleplaying, sure the AI probably wont be all that great but if it makes some funny and interesting moves once a while it should be an entertaining RP experience.

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

This sounds like fun c: I enjoy watching AIs fight eachother in Age of Empires for example, I call it my Virtual Fishtank. I get to tab around to see how the bots are doing, it's a nice little thing to have.

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

Messaggio originale di DiceWrangler:

WARNING: Random ideas posted below, please disregard if you want to stay on-topic.

With an emphasis on AI v. AI games you could make a completely new game where you are more like the Team Owner or Manager instead of the Coach. The "game" would be scouting for players to recruit or trade and, possibly, placing side bets on matches or specific events with the ultimate goal of maximizing profit.

You could either watch replays of AI v. AI games to scout players or just study their post-game stats.

Side bets could be on measured numbers like point spreads, injuries inflicted, or passing yardage and could either be for the entire team or for specific players. Team and player stats are more important than real-time action on the pitch. Odds, for determining payout amounts, are important too so there could be a new AI created that would affect those. In multiplayer leagues the human team owner/managers could be a factor in determining odds.

Perhaps the human player does not own, manage or even have significant interest in any specific team but are just trying to maximize their profits across all teams. There may be reasons why the human player would want to not only bribe the refs but also bribe individual coaches or players to throw games. . .

I've always been completely disinterested by football manager games, but ngl a charming pixel arty type thing where you manage a Fantasy football team sounds hilarious. I'd be all over that.

[justdrop]

Messaggio originale di Moridamn:

I see a lot of "Make better AI" posts all the time, but I don't think Cyanide Studios has the employee count and budget to really create the AI people are looking for. Keep in mind that these games aren't exactly triple A titles with huge followings. They are niche games compared to games with complex AI.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for them to have a massively improved AI and it isn't impossible to create, just that I imagine that the developers won't have the time/budget/resources to make the AI people want.

If they can't make a game people want, perhaps they shouldn't make games.

[G Willikers]

Messaggio originale di Super Cosmic Space Magnet:

I've always been completely disinterested by football manager games, but ngl a charming pixel arty type thing where you manage a Fantasy football team sounds hilarious. I'd be all over that.

Check out Legend Bowl

[G Willikers]

Messaggio originale di Moridamn:

I see a lot of "Make better AI" posts all the time, but I don't think Cyanide Studios has the employee count and budget to really create the AI people are looking for. Keep in mind that these games aren't exactly triple A titles with huge followings. They are niche games compared to games with complex AI.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for them to have a massively improved AI and it isn't impossible to create, just that I imagine that the developers won't have the time/budget/resources to make the AI people want.

Cyanide may not be a huge studio but they're big enough to include a turn based, scripted AI into their game.

[Hairy Coo]

Messaggio originale di G Willikers:

Messaggio originale di Moridamn:

I see a lot of "Make better AI" posts all the time, but I don't think Cyanide Studios has the employee count and budget to really create the AI people are looking for. Keep in mind that these games aren't exactly triple A titles with huge followings. They are niche games compared to games with complex AI.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for them to have a massively improved AI and it isn't impossible to create, just that I imagine that the developers won't have the time/budget/resources to make the AI people want.

Cyanide may not be a huge studio but they're big enough to include a turn based, scripted AI into their game.

Eh...have you played BB2? They sure do have turn based scripted AI in there... That's why it sucks.

[G Willikers]

Sure, but that's a cyanide issue. Smaller studios have implemented extremely solid AI especially with turn based games.

One of the most impressive AI's I've ever seen was in a civil war series called Take Command. The entire company was 2 guys.

[Lance Lake]

Seems like the reveal of an in-game shop shows what their true priorities are. Sorry devs. Not going to get your game without AI vs. AI and for SURE not going to buy if micro-transactions are a thing.

[RodHull]

Messaggio originale di Lance Lake:

Seems like the reveal of an in-game shop shows what their true priorities are. Sorry devs. Not going to get your game without AI vs. AI and for SURE not going to buy if micro-transactions are a thing.

Are you new around here, did you not play BB2 ?

[justdrop]

Messaggio originale di RodHull:

Messaggio originale di Lance Lake:

Seems like the reveal of an in-game shop shows what their true priorities are. Sorry devs. Not going to get your game without AI vs. AI and for SURE not going to buy if micro-transactions are a thing.

Are you new around here, did you not play BB2 ?

False. Equivalency.

You earned the currency in BB2. All signs are pointing to purchasing it in BB3.

[RodHull]

Messaggio originale di justdrop:

Messaggio originale di RodHull:

Are you new around here, did you not play BB2 ?

False. Equivalency.

You earned the currency in BB2. All signs are pointing to purchasing it in BB3.

That was the plan in BB2, the whole cyans shop was going to be buyable with cash, it just never got that far cause their attempt to turn it into a mass appeal e-sport failed.

[justdrop]

Thank you for supporting my point that it's a false equivalence. Next.

[RodHull]

Messaggio originale di justdrop:

Thank you for supporting my point that it's a false equivalence. Next.

I think perhaps you don't understand the term.

The plan is identical to the plan for BB2 it just remains to be seen if they follow through with it this time.

[justdrop]

No, I understand it very well. Keep sucking for your prize.