(Howto) Running TimeShift on Windows 10 (64 bit) on 4+ cores

[Sick System™]

Hey there. Here is a little workaround for running Timeshift on a 64 bit machine, which in general seems to have problems if you have 6 cores or 12 threads:

1. on command line run with administrator privileges

bcdedit /copy {current} /d "Windows 10 with 6 cores"

which makes a second boot menu entry based on your actual one

2. run msconfig.exe

3. go to "Start" and choose your newly created entry

4. go to advanced options and click "number of processors" (or similar, my system is German). Then choose 6 or less. I've chosen 6

5. save and restart. On Start choose the newly created entry

6. try running Timeshift

7. optional: for easy managing boot menu entries you may use the program "EasyBCD". With it you can manage some things like the time how long boot menu shows up. It is good if you are not familar to bcdedit command! BE CAREFUL WHEN MODIFYING BOOT MANAGER!

For me it works and I think it will work on older Windows Versions too.

Sorry for my English.

I have an i7-5820K ... with 12 threads TimeShift won't run. But it runs with 6.

Alternative way for AMD Users (thx to deaconblue)
Use AMD Ryzen Master Tool and limit to a max. core count of 8 (without Multithreading).

[deaconblue]

Hallo.
Erst Deutsch, dann nochmal für die englischen Kommentare.
Asrock Taichi X399, Threadripper 1920, 128 GB, 2060 RTX.
Ein "Hyperthreading" finde ich im BIOS nicht. Rumpfuschen möchte ich da auch nicht. Aber eigentlich kann das nur ein Fehler vom Programmierer sein, die Hardware so excessiv abzutasten, das es gewisse "null" - rückmeldungen erhält. Deshalb wäre es nett, wenn sich ein findiges "Mäuschen" findet, das eventuell den Hardwarescan abstellen kann. Spiele von 97-98-99 laufen ja schliesslich auch ohne Eingriffnahme, bei mir z.B. Age of Empires, CnC Red Alert 2, Knights and Merchants, und so weiter.

Hello Kaay
I dont think, there's a "hyperthreading" section in my bios. Specs see above. If you can point me into the right direction, i'll be very grateful.
As i mentioned above, i guess it is something the developer has broken up. If they do not scan excessivly your hardware for compability, it probably won't receive unknown values back. Values which are grown over time, and probably interpreted as "null". Other games from back in time do also work today, see list above.
I hope some "smart little mouse" is able to circumvent the hardware-scan of this pearl of a game.

[Sick System™]

Originally posted by deaconblue:

Hallo.
Erst Deutsch, dann nochmal für die englischen Kommentare.
Asrock Taichi X399, Threadripper 1920, 128 GB, 2060 RTX.
Ein "Hyperthreading" finde ich im BIOS nicht. Rumpfuschen möchte ich da auch nicht. Aber eigentlich kann das nur ein Fehler vom Programmierer sein, die Hardware so excessiv abzutasten, das es gewisse "null" - rückmeldungen erhält. Deshalb wäre es nett, wenn sich ein findiges "Mäuschen" findet, das eventuell den Hardwarescan abstellen kann. Spiele von 97-98-99 laufen ja schliesslich auch ohne Eingriffnahme, bei mir z.B. Age of Empires, CnC Red Alert 2, Knights and Merchants, und so weiter.

Oh, stimmt, hier scheint es die Option nicht zu geben. Also ich kann hier keine Hoffnung machen, das Spiel ist schon sehr lange in dem Zustand.

Ich würde es in msconfig.exe mal testweise unter "Erweitert" - "Anzahl der Prozessoren" mit 4 probieren. Vielleicht spielt die Architektur des Threadrippers eine Rolle, der ja glaube aus 3 Dies á 4 Kernen besteht ...

[kaay]

Hyperthreading is a name used only for intel CPUs, and its a technology that emulates doubling the real number of cores. AMD also doubles the number of actual cores, but i dont know if it has a particular name.

You should look in the CPU section of the bios for options that refer to cores, if AMD offer the possibility to turn off the core-doubling, it should be there.

On intel cpus, turning off the hyperthreading has no negative effects in games at all, on the contrary there is a slight increase in performance.
Never used an AMD so i dont know how disabling the core-doubling technology would affect performance...if its even possible to turn it off.

[deaconblue]

Hallo nochmal.
Same procedure.

1. Das Spiel scheint nun doch zu wollen. AMD Ryzen Master nehmen, Profil: Gleichzeitiges Multithreading: aus, deaktivierte Cores: 4, Neustart, Spiel installieren, ausprobieren. u.U. ist der 1.2er Patch nötig.

2. Game is starting. load "AMD Ryzen master". Create Profil with: Multithreading: OFF, deactivated cores: 4. then restart system (as stated) and install game. The 1.2 patch is probably needed, so go on trying.

Ich habe noch 8 Cores. Es liegt also sehr stark am Multithreading, das wohl nicht optimiert ist. CPUs aus den Jahren 2006-2007 hatten auch noch kein HT.

Game's starting with 8 core without Multithreading, it seems to be a problem with HT in general. CPUs from 2006-2007 doesnt had any HT or similar, so this could be the problem at all.

EDIT:
12 cores without multithreading / hyperthreading won't do. So maximum core is 8 without MT/HT.
That app (ryzenmaster) seems to be one of the easiest way to manipulate the cores. So play and have fun!

[Sick System™]

Originally posted by deaconblue:

Game's starting with 8 core without Multithreading, it seems to be a problem with HT in general. CPUs from 2006-2007 doesnt had any HT or similar, so this could be the problem at all.

Nice, thanks for your feedback. Good to know, that 8 cores is the maximum. I guess, it doesnt matter if it is 4 cores with multithreading oder 8 cores without. Don't know the tool as I didn't have had an AMD CPU since legendary AMD Athlon XP. Will edit original Thread.

[Kar699]

thank you for the solution, another thread shown me the easybcd thing already but I didn't figure it out until after I saw this thread so I thank you too for this wonderful gift you have given me, the ability to play this beautiful game again.

[Sick System™]

Originally posted by Kar699:

thank you for the solution, another thread shown me the easybcd thing already but I didn't figure it out until after I saw this thread so I thank you too for this wonderful gift you have given me, the ability to play this beautiful game again.

I am very glad, this worked for you. Enjoy, it's a great game.

[illLoGiQ]

I did 4 cores in msconfig (advanced options) and set the compatibility of the game to Windows XP update . Worked fine

[criss_ki]

I also can start the game with 6 cores and Windows XP SP3 on Windows 10. Thanks for your tips!

[Sir_0v3rk1ll]

make some other fix that doesnt include messing up your pc. mess up the game all you want but not pc. this is garbage

[Sick System™]

Originally posted by 0V3RK1LL:

make some other fix that doesnt include messing up your pc. mess up the game all you want but not pc. this is garbage

Nope, it is working. So you may try to understand your computer. Sometimes to problem is situated right in front of the monitor ;)

[Sir_0v3rk1ll]

is not that it works or it doesnt. You are fixing one problem and creating 50 by changing your system. A real solution would be changin the game files not the system. For example this is a real fix. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1869921614

[Sick System™]

Originally posted by 0V3RK1LL:

is not that it works or it doesnt. You are fixing one problem and creating 50 by changing your system. A real solution would be changin the game files not the system. For example this is a real fix. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1869921614

OK, if you want such a fix then go and ask a developer or a hacker. Good luck!

[Sir_0v3rk1ll]

Its already fixed. dropped new exe file and its done.

[Sick System™]

Originally posted by 0V3RK1LL:

Its already fixed. dropped new exe file and its done.

Wow, how cool you are. Why do you spam this thread?