Absolutely horrid AI? Watch this!

[Ziron]

I'm not the creator but I am going to bet this is the biggest problem for most people so here!
https://youtu.be/8oAjiXd3qq8

[Waiwai]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Scyris:

Would be better if the devs would just let us have full control like the gambit system in ff12. Or like SAO Hollow Realization even.

Or just let us to modify AI directly, instead of recording by chance.

[总是积极思考]

I think the idea is like implementing AI learning system, so the AI will learn based on what you taught them to do. They record every moves you do in certain time and situation then save it and they will recall that next time and do exactly as what you recorded.

I am agree it will be easier with if else script rather than with Graphical Interface layout, if it's a script we can write it before we play according to what we want.

[Ziron]

really it's the "think" timer that i'm trying to shorten like in the video. There must be a way to do it..

[总是积极思考]

Hmm just assuming, I think personality also play role, example my Asuna is more active in battle when I use Bellicose and she doing nothing when I set her personality to Diligent, because the condition of Bellicose is any in chain state while condition of Diligent is enemy not targeting you and it's always consist only one segment which is Mind Hazard...

[Waiwai]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von outoftheboxgaming:

Hmm just assuming, I think personality also play role, example my Asuna is more active in battle when I use Bellicose and she doing nothing when I set her personality to Diligent, because the condition of Bellicose is any in chain state while condition of Diligent is enemy not targeting you and it's always consist only one segment which is Mind Hazard...

The biggest problem for me is all recordings are triggered unintendedly, also went to incorrect art codes.

For example, using Asuna to complete an art chain with Skill Connect, and than cast a level 3 luminous sacred art to heal other DPS and debuffer due to low HP.

The sacred art will record as a chain action instead of healing action, and in the worst case, the Skill Connect will not be recorded.

I really don't understand how the heck to record things...

[SigfridTM]

For all of you that "can't understand" how recording works.... here is a guide.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TQUvuWTDWjoeBhejS8aBw0AhkpDkXb2vVA-lfsoBrsY/edit

[Ziron]

Meticulous
Cardinal
Increases Thinking Time (not sure what that does)
Comes with

Thinking is the worst thing in the game. It's how long it takes for an AI to do another action.
You need things to DECREASE this time.

[总是积极思考]

Well I plan to rebuild my records after I get all ultimate sword skill I guess, not worth to rebuild when I not yet unlocked star bust stream, flashing penetrator etc, maybe for one hand sword I can as I have unlocked everything

[Ekxsza]

I took my time off from raid just to learn this system. Turns out, the higher usage rate a skill has, the more frequent NPCs will use them. You need to increase its usage rate by using a skill manually until it reaches at least 50. If you have a skill with less than 10 usage rate, it is much better to delete them. It's HELL if your skill is branched.

[Waiwai]

The recording has also one unfriendly problem, if your team dies during a boss fight, you lose your recording.

It is one huge for anybody who want to record AI with boss fight, as normal mob will die in a few seconds once a fight start, yet training with boss is ineffective due to you will lose your recording.

[ForThatB]

The solution would been just let players do tinkering and program of AI with something like written script or something like similar use this skill under these conditions and distance.

Edit: If recording is loss because they die omg AI can't even guard and evade most of the time.

[Waiwai]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ForBacon:

The solution would been just let players do tinkering and program of AI with something like written script or something like similar use this skill under these conditions and distance.

Edit: If recording is loss because they die omg AI can't even guard and evade most of the time.

As long as you do not get reloaded to the last save point, then it will not lose recording.

But the problem is in order to do recording, you have to use Soul Connect (Bullet Time) to command them, or control them directly to trigger recording chance. The former means AI will use only one sword skill at a time, and cannot command to use sacred arts. The latter means you have high risk to lose your main DPS (mostly Kirito dual wielding), lead to lack of DPS to hazard a boss, or a tank goes down first due to healing does not follow up.

[Ziron]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ΞΧΔ Ekxsza:

I took my time off from raid just to learn this system. Turns out, the higher usage rate a skill has, the more frequent NPCs will use them. You need to increase its usage rate by using a skill manually until it reaches at least 50. If you have a skill with less than 10 usage rate, it is much better to delete them. It's HELL if your skill is branched.

CAN CONFIRM! i added a rapier user to my team and they are using quad attack over and over while everyone else just stands around!

[总是积极思考]

Well I tried repair my record and finaly got something like this, my Asuna still broken but my Liena is really best, she used all skills even outside 4 that I am set her also Medina doing variety of skill. Asuna can't stop using only Quadruple Pain...

[img]https://imgur.com/a/pQIr4LN[/img]

131 continuous hits its my best record so far

[Ziron]

are you 2 saying that certain characters are just more active and it's not the use count?