I agree...
The main concept is to get best gear and annoy people at grinding spots.
Sometimes it save traveltime to the next outpost....;)
PVE Server would be the answer maybe...
Would imagine 3 different kinds of server. PVE, PVP, and Insane War Server for the carzy ones...

Originally posted by Donekk:

I agree...
The main concept is to get best gear and annoy people at grinding spots.
Sometimes it save traveltime to the next outpost....;)
PVE Server would be the answer maybe...
Would imagine 3 different kinds of server. PVE, PVP, and Insane War Server for the carzy ones...

Then literally everyone would grind in the pve server and ur rotation would literally be limited to a few packs, that’s not fun, and not good for ur income
PVP is in this game whether both of u like it or not (although this is unfortunate, the only endgame is PvP)
You sound like someone as if they’ve been memed almost every time they tried to grind somewhere. You can either defend ur spot or take someone’s spot (or u can switch to another server)
No one really likes the idea of sharing grind spots unless they’re in a party
And I highly doubt PKING happens on a regular basis unless ur in Arsha, well from my experience anyway

This is a PVP game.

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here the thing. when they kill you u lose nothing. no need to get buthurt about it and carry on. if u get buthurt then of course they going keep killing you. i mean your making it fun for them. most of the time when some1 pk you is becouse ur grinding in a rotation they already doing. be a grown up and go grind some were else if u dont like getting pk.

I agree. Maybe servers focused on life skills and trading will be better to have.

Or just not going above level 49 at all....

Just do what i am doing ... Fish for 2 hrs and get 80-100 mln then let your character exp on training book. I am getting from 10 hour training book on level 61 0.900 - 1%.

I even did a PVP build on my Striker, it's all fun and games until 2-3 people come and gank you. Switching to another grind spot is a viable option too but I invested so much time raising the level of that particular one and it's quite annyoing.

Making PVE servers will not happen even if people asks for it because someone could gear up easily by grinding there and then switching to PVP.

I will continue playing like this anyway, even World Of Warcraft got rid of PVE/PVP servers so I think PVP is the future of MMO games.

or remove the gear advantages from regular pvps, like grinding spots and keep them for node/clan wars etc...
so the fanatics can gamble their gear just as before and use them to conquer the other guilds while everything on the map would be skill based and you can defend yourself from old players whose think they are skilled although they are not...
if somebody wants to troll on grinding spots then at least the beginners will have a fair fight

btw, i would be happy with pve only servers. the only limitation that you cant enter here with negative karma or a well known history of killing players in an unfair fight (system log, with more than x player kill, after x kill the character banned from pve only server forever)

PvP makes people want to be competitive. Competitive people spend more money than casual PvE players (at least in my experience of MMORPGs over the years). Money makes companies happy.

nah PvP is great but not on this game its a series of stun(CC) locks and nothing as far as skill even my guildmates say either stun or evade thats no way to PvP on a action mmo such as this one... Stuns aren't even bad its how long they last you could be full of health not as geared and 1 stun lock gets you killed who thinks its fun are people that would commit a hit and run accident

Originally posted by NissanThanNice:

nah PvP is great but not on this game its a series of stun(CC) locks and nothing as far as skill even my guildmates say either stun or evade thats no way to PvP on a action mmo such as this one... Stuns aren't even bad its how long they last you could be full of health not as geared and 1 stun lock gets you killed who thinks its fun are people that would commit a hit and run accident

Well said, and agreed on the PvP aspect of this game, which is so broken because of its insanely scripted fighting/action mechanics -- especially for such a game, a game that tries to pass itself off as a title with white-knuckle action.

I'm more of a gamer from an action oriented genre, but because of how much I enjoyed this game, and how scripted the PvP is, it has forced me to take a liking to life skills instead.

Originally posted by ET3RNAL☃:

Originally posted by Donekk:

I agree...
The main concept is to get best gear and annoy people at grinding spots.
Sometimes it save traveltime to the next outpost....;)
PVE Server would be the answer maybe...
Would imagine 3 different kinds of server. PVE, PVP, and Insane War Server for the carzy ones...

Then literally everyone would grind in the pve server and ur rotation would literally be limited to a few packs, that’s not fun, and not good for ur income
PVP is in this game whether both of u like it or not (although this is unfortunate, the only endgame is PvP)
You sound like someone as if they’ve been memed almost every time they tried to grind somewhere. You can either defend ur spot or take someone’s spot (or u can switch to another server)
No one really likes the idea of sharing grind spots unless they’re in a party
And I highly doubt PKING happens on a regular basis unless ur in Arsha, well from my experience anyway

This is right and stupid at the same time. Some people want to play without PVP.
Believe me there are a lot people without a agression attitude, that have no problem to share a grinding spot.
I met more people like this in BDO, than the agressives one on popular spots.

Its about 1-5% of people willing to dominate other people. The only joy is to annoy other people.
This minority is vocal on forums, so the MMO devs are following their wishes....and later the MMOs lose 90% of their player base.It happens in all MMOs. Thats why people say MMOs are dying. BDO is a new fresh version with a good lifeskill system.
Why are the lifeskiller doing what they do? To get the one ultimative goal. The Endgame Gear.
If you lifeskill instead of fighting, you propbably less skilled, than the fighter. So you have a big dissadvantage on start. And if the devs follow the 1% wishes and tweak around on the balance, so why even trying to get to the endgame?
Some people just do the lifeskill for fun or to compete on the economical base.
Wouldnt it be more fun to kick ass some more competent opponents, instead of helpless dudes?
I guess for some of you the answer is no, because you play to recompensate for something....

I am absolutely for competing in PVP...
but if your stats are 10% under the best player, but he oneshots you....how do you call it?
I call it bad math.
If the balance is badly designed on purpose, so dont wonder some people want to avoid this part of the game.
On purpose to force us to grind, make us buy shortcut items to get to the endgame.

Go and play Overwatch or something like that. Why dont you accept, that there are people not sharing your opinions? What is your proplem with a PVE server? BDO has so many options to get rich ingame. Do you want to cancel them too?
I dont get your argument with the PVE server.
Probably your only problem with this idea is the potential missing of enough sacrificial lambs....

Originally posted by HΛɌÐCΘɌΞVIBΞƵ™:

PvP makes people want to be competitive. Competitive people spend more money than casual PvE players (at least in my experience of MMORPGs over the years). Money makes companies happy.

Exactly!
But without sacrificial lambs, no fun for the "Competitive".....dying server is the final.

Its not a critique on BDO, its general on MMOs
because in my Opinion BDO has so much options, I didnt test tnem all after 1 year....
There is a new generation of MMOs jumping into the footsteps of BDO.
let see if they do it better....

Originally posted by Ghost:

Originally posted by NissanThanNice:

nah PvP is great but not on this game its a series of stun(CC) locks and nothing as far as skill even my guildmates say either stun or evade thats no way to PvP on a action mmo such as this one... Stuns aren't even bad its how long they last you could be full of health not as geared and 1 stun lock gets you killed who thinks its fun are people that would commit a hit and run accident

Well said, and agreed on the PvP aspect of this game, which is so broken because of its insanely scripted fighting/action mechanics -- especially for such a game, a game that tries to pass itself off as a title with white-knuckle action.

I'm more of a gamer from an action oriented genre, but because of how much I enjoyed this game, and how scripted the PvP is, it has forced me to take a liking to life skills instead.

I was dreaming of Tekken in an open World for years. Thats what the combat system in BDO is.
But there are some issues with it.
To PVP in an open area you need to be sure your figure do what you want.
Most chars dont guarantee it.
Grinding in other MMOS was the hell. Here I like the fluent movements of the Mystique and Lahn.
The other chars stops somewhere annoyingly. The Striker is like the Mystique, but feels so heavy and slow....it burns my brain.
I would say BBDO should make the rest chars a little more fluent without making them overpowered.

i do agree.... but PvP is a very huge part of this game and it just wouldnt fit the game without it. while it can be annoyinh it still kind of makes the game a lot more fun trying to prove dominance...tf. i can see why you wouyld want it removed but seriously... once you hit awakening PvP is a huge part of the game.