Let me be clear, don't get your panties twisted... I have enjoyed this game, been enjoying it since early in its Early Access. Many of the fundamental elements to this game are done in such a way that you get all the fun you had in Diablo 2. I however have complaints for the title.


Hidden secrets can be extremely obvious, a secret is not a secret if it is jumping up and down screaming for you to come to it. It's just lazy

Things block your vision a lot.

Loot drops through walls, it also drops on floors above you, and you can grab it through walls.

Quest rewards can be literally useless and crafted items can be beyond your level when it would be easy to take into account what a player's stats are and generate relatively useful items, or at least ones that are the right level.

Worst of all for my complaints is new characters not being added to the list of characters right away. Make one and you have to go to the Options menu and then exit it for the list to refresh. How hard would it be to refresh the list after the new character was made? Can't be that hard.

Enemy AI is extremely simplistic, you can exploit their stupidity easily to force them into killing grounds that any decent AI would adapt to and avoid - they have only one way to handle situations, "attack."

The entire game treats you like you are in multiplayer. Whereas most good single player experiences let you save progress when you stop playing, Grim Dawn will have you start an entirely new instance if you resume playing later. This means if you have to spend an hour to get to a boss but don't have the time to finish the dungeon run you are stuck either leaving the game running until you come back to it or starting the entire hour long push through the dungeon over again, hope you have enough time the second go.

And there is the problem of economy, you get next to no money for selling anything and buying anything (including health potions) can become painfully expensive early on.

It lets you make all kinds of characters: tank, glass cannon, pet master, trap layer... But if you encounter a boss alone it is always a case of dancing around your foe while you heal. Boss' powers aside those fights almost all end up with you running in a circle at one point or another.

And lastly, the map is only half-useful. It does not show everything, not even everything you find, and you cannot put on notes to mark things you have seen for later use.


There are options for the colour blind.

Full exploration of maps is rewarded.

Sets, sounds, and textures are all cohesive and enjoyable, they make for a very Diablo 2-esque vibe of dark and fearful, almost sorrowful at times.

The setting is gritty and dark, you get the sense of the horrors both human and otherworldly.


There is a double edged knife in the component and augmentation system, which is used to improve your gear - you have a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bajillion options. It can become rather difficult to figure out exactly what you should be aiming for at times with the system because of that vast array of potential tweaks to your items.

Gear too is interesting and flawed, but drops are almost all useless. I don't mean some, I don't mean a few... I mean a vast majority of drops are entirely useless. The quality system means you will only ever use normal items during your first thirty minutes with a character, and from then on will only use Magic items. The variety for Magic, Epic and other loot is great though, if you want to specialize into a specific type of damag you can do so with the help of the right gear, and finding some to match your build is not too difficult.

Stats, oh Lord the stats - you have huge variety in damage types, resistances, and effects. It can seem overwhelming trying to figure out what is going on.

The map is designed... it is not a random or procedurally generated one. It has elements which change between sessions, but these are largely pointless and do nothing to enhance the playthrough.


To anyone who was looking for a Torchlight-type game, this is your jam right here. Not so polished as some, but very enjoyable for fans of the genre in spite of my gripes. For more casual gamers the numbers will be daunting and the flaws will be maddening. For those thinking I should have taken my complaints to their forums, I did, and I was quickly told all my complaints were wrong.

Let me be clear, don't get your panties twisted... I have enjoyed this game, been enjoying it since early in its Early Access. Many of the fundamental elements to this game are done in such a way that you get all the fun you had in Diablo 2. I however have [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=704211950]complaints for the title[/url]. [h1]Bad[/h1] [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=706065323]Hidden secrets can be extremely obvious[/url], a secret is not a secret [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=409757777]if it is jumping up and down screaming for you[/url] to come to it. It's just lazy [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=709484233]Things[/url] [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=705052028]block[/url] [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=409757909]your[/url] [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=409247996]vision[/url] [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=409588064]a lot[/url]. [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=409758487]Loot drops through walls[/url], it also drops on floors above you, and you can grab it through walls. [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=704208820]Quest rewards can be literally useless[/url] and [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=705826614]crafted items can be beyond your level[/url] when it would be easy to take into account what a player's stats are and generate relatively useful items, or at least ones that are the right level. [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=706110380]Worst of all for my complaints is new characters not being added to the list of characters right away.[/url] Make one and you have to go to the Options menu and then exit it for the list to refresh. How hard would it be to refresh the list after the new character was made? Can't be [b]that[/b] hard. Enemy AI is extremely simplistic, you can exploit their stupidity easily to force them into killing grounds that any decent AI would adapt to and avoid - they have only one way to handle situations, "attack." The entire game treats you like you are in multiplayer. Whereas most good single player experiences let you save progress when you stop playing, Grim Dawn will have you start an entirely new instance if you resume playing later. This means if you have to spend an hour to get to a boss but don't have the time to finish the dungeon run you are stuck either leaving the game running until you come back to it or starting the entire hour long push through the dungeon over again, hope you have enough time the second go. And there is the problem of economy, you get next to no money for selling anything and buying anything (including health potions) can become painfully expensive early on. It lets you make all kinds of characters: tank, glass cannon, pet master, trap layer... But if you encounter a boss alone it is always a case of dancing around your foe while you heal. Boss' powers aside those fights almost all end up with you running in a circle at one point or another. And lastly, the map is only half-useful. It does not show everything, not even everything you find, and you cannot put on notes to mark things you have seen for later use. [h1]Good[/h1] There are options for the [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=407455566]colour blind[/url]. [url=http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=708867389]Full exploration of maps is rewarded[/url]. Sets, sounds, and textures are all cohesive and enjoyable, they make for a very Diablo 2-esque vibe of dark and fearful, almost sorrowful at times. The setting is gritty and dark, you get the sense of the horrors both human and otherworldly. [h1]Mixed[/h1] There is a double edged knife in the component and augmentation system, which is used to improve your gear - you have a god damned bajillion options. It can become rather difficult to figure out exactly what you should be aiming for at times with the system because of that vast array of potential tweaks to your items. Gear too is interesting and flawed, but drops are almost all useless. I don't mean some, I don't mean a few... I mean a vast majority of drops are entirely useless. The quality system means you will only ever use normal items during your first thirty minutes with a character, and from then on will only use Magic items. The variety for Magic, Epic and other loot is great though, if you want to specialize into a specific type of damag you can do so with the help of the right gear, and finding some to match your build is not too difficult. Stats, oh Lord the stats - you have huge variety in damage types, resistances, and effects. It can seem overwhelming trying to figure out what is going on. The map is designed... it is not a random or procedurally generated one. It has elements which change between sessions, but these are largely pointless and do nothing to enhance the playthrough. [h1]Sum it up[/h1] To anyone who was looking for a Torchlight-type game, this is your jam right here. Not so polished as some, but very enjoyable for fans of the genre in spite of my gripes. For more casual gamers the numbers will be daunting and the flaws will be maddening. For those thinking I should have taken my complaints to their forums, I did, and I was quickly told all my complaints were wrong.