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jvert 2016 年 1 月 7 日 上午 11:39
SteamOS brewmaster update 2.59 pushed to brewmaster_beta
Additional game controller support in the linux kernel, an updated bluetooth stack and the usual security fixes.

==== SteamOS build 59 2016-01-06 ====
最后由 jvert 编辑于; 2016 年 1 月 7 日 下午 3:10
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ProfessorKaos64 2016 年 1 月 7 日 上午 11:47 
Great work, thank you. :happy_creep:
TransistorCowboy 2016 年 1 月 7 日 下午 12:23 
Awesome! Thanks for keeping SteamOS rolling along!
dubigrasu 2016 年 1 月 7 日 下午 12:34 
Thank you.
TinMan1325 2016 年 1 月 7 日 下午 12:48 
Very nice, thank you
Hope to see AMD Crimson Edition 15.12 driver soon
daniel.mantione 2016 年 1 月 7 日 下午 1:07 
Crimson has no advantages over the previous driver, yet it drops compatibility for many cards. It would be a bad idea at this time.
TinMan1325 2016 年 1 月 7 日 下午 1:26 
引用自 daniel.mantione
Crimson has no advantages over the previous driver, yet it drops compatibility for many cards. It would be a bad idea at this time.
No advantages? Oh wow, that sucks... and sounds kind of pointless
TinMan1325 2016 年 1 月 7 日 下午 1:38 
引用自 daniel.mantione
Read this:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-crimson-linux&num=1
Oh I wasn't doubting you, just saying I'm disappointed with AMD
faijeya 2016 年 1 月 7 日 下午 2:03 
I'm sorry to ask, but it always eluded me.

Why exactly does SteamOS include DNS server (bind9), Samba (and ldb) and printing utilities (cups-filters) mentioned in this update?
jvert 2016 年 1 月 7 日 下午 2:48 
引用自 faijeya
I'm sorry to ask, but it always eluded me.

Why exactly does SteamOS include DNS server (bind9), Samba (and ldb) and printing utilities (cups-filters) mentioned in this update?

Although they are not installed by default, they may be build dependencies of other packages that are. So we need them to build the system and it costs us almost nothing to ship them in the repository.
faijeya 2016 年 1 月 8 日 上午 3:49 
Umm, some of these things are installed as dependencies by default.
For example bind9-host, perl, and, amuzingly, apache2 can be traced up to gnome-user-share. Not sure why a SteamOS user would need it.
samba-libs installed by default is needed by gvfs-backends. Also not sure about its place in distro's intended usage.

Looks like the main supposed "WM" for the user is the steam client.
And Gnome is used only to allow the user to set up connection (if they have anything more complicated than DHCP and they're fast enough) and download the actual steam client.
Maybe it'll make sense to get rid of the Gnome altogether and replace it by some lightweight WM?

That'll easily half the number of security fixes to backport and (if you get rid of i386 packages in installer) slash your bandwith usage about three times.
The only downside is to find a replacement for gnome-network-manager.
daniel.mantione 2016 年 1 月 8 日 上午 4:25 
At least for Perl, the Linux Standard Base requires that a Perl interpreter is available on an LSB compliant system. While games are not the most likely applications to use this ugly and disgusting language, there would be nothing wrong if they did. Third party applications that you install on SteamOS might need Perl too.
Shark 2016 年 1 月 8 日 上午 4:41 
引用自 faijeya
Umm, some of these things are installed as dependencies by default.
For example bind9-host, perl, and, amuzingly, apache2 can be traced up to gnome-user-share. Not sure why a SteamOS user would need it.
samba-libs installed by default is needed by gvfs-backends. Also not sure about its place in distro's intended usage.

Looks like the main supposed "WM" for the user is the steam client.
And Gnome is used only to allow the user to set up connection (if they have anything more complicated than DHCP and they're fast enough) and download the actual steam client.
Maybe it'll make sense to get rid of the Gnome altogether and replace it by some lightweight WM?

That'll easily half the number of security fixes to backport and (if you get rid of i386 packages in installer) slash your bandwith usage about three times.
The only downside is to find a replacement for gnome-network-manager.
The thing is, SteamOS is based on Debian. Everything that is installed by default on a minimal install of Debian with Gnome is installed by default on SteamOS. It doesn't really matter much that Gnome is there, since it isn't ever started unless the users wants to launch it. The only difference it makes is some disk space on a partition which will never be full and isn't used for games. Keeping them in is less work for Valve and more options for users.

I do agree on removing most i386 packages from the repo, it saves about 500 megabytes on the iso if you remove them(I know this because Stephenson's Rocket removes them).

You also don't need Gnome for network manager, it can run on its own.
最后由 Shark 编辑于; 2016 年 1 月 8 日 上午 4:42
TheTrippyHippie 2016 年 1 月 8 日 下午 3:17 
how come mine is stuck on 2.49 ? i click update nothing happens ...
引用自 SteveVnickS
how come mine is stuck on 2.49 ? i click update nothing happens ...


You need to enable Brewmaster_beta first
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