Strange Solitude CTD

[Bardathe111]

Okay, so I have something of a strange CTD in Solitude and I cannot seem to figure it out. Now, I have been modding Skyrim for quite some time so I will post everything I have already tried in order to fix it.

First, on the crash itself; the crash only occurs when loading the actual Solitude cell and it does not occur everytime I load it. It may allow me to load Solitude 2 or 3 times before it crashes. Upon restarting after a ctd, it will usually load the Solitude cell. If it doesn't, I have to coc to a different area that loads into Solitude. (ie. if I am in the Winking Skeever and it just won't let me out, I'll coc to the Blue Palace and that will usually work.)

Skyrim Setup: I use LOOT for the load order, I clean the appropriate mods and official plugins with TES5Edit, I use a bashed patch through Wrye Bash, I use NMM to install almost all of my mods, I run SKSE with the ini memory settings, and I run the ENBoost speedhack.

As for what I've already done to try to fix it, I completely uninstalled all programs, mods, and files (including deleting saves etc.) associated with Skyrim and then redownloaded and reinstalled them; I have done this twice. I tried disabling all mods and that worked, so i disabled every mod individually, and the crash occured every time. Then I tried running only one mod at a time, and this also worked. I thought maybe it was a conflict with the new combat mods I added (I had none of the combat mods before the ctds and they were the only ones I added before the occurrences began.), but disabling all of them did not fix the issue. I then thought that, becuase of the way it was happening, maybe the SKSE mem patch was reaching the RAM limit so I installed Sheson's MemoryBlocksLog and it is, in fact, not hitting the 512 limit that I set. I even tried reading through all of the mod pages again, and not just their compatibility sections, to ensure that I didn't miss anything

This is the load order I use:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Falskaar.esm
7 7 Wyrmstooth.esp
8 8 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
9 9 Campfire.esm
10 a ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
11 b LB_MuchAdoSnowElves.esm
12 c RSkyrimChildren.esm
13 d Gray Fox Cowl.esm
14 e HighResTexturePack01.esp
15 f HighResTexturePack02.esp
16 10 HighResTexturePack03.esp
17 11 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
18 12 FestusKrexSpell.esp
19 13 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
20 14 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp
21 15 Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp
22 16 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
23 17 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
24 18 Helgen Reborn.esp
25 19 betterinns.esp
26 1a ShenkThieveryOverhaul.esp
27 1b SoS - The Wilds.esp
28 1c SoS - Civilization.esp
29 1d Improved Artifacts - Complete Collection.esp
30 1e bettercitiesjarlshouses.esp
31 1f Rebirth Monster.esp
32 20 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
33 21 SoS - The Dungeons.esp
34 22 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
35 23 Undeath.esp
36 24 Combat Evolved.esp
37 25 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
38 26 Elemental Destruction.esp
39 27 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
40 28 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
41 29 Druidessentials.esp
42 2a WATER DG + DB.esp
43 2b bettermorthal.esp
44 2c AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
45 2d SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp
46 2e MLAdventures.esp
47 2f L0S and TaVE patch.esp
48 30 Run For Your Lives.esp
49 31 quest_thebiggertheyare.esp
50 32 Cloaks.esp
51 33 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
52 34 meadery.esp
53 35 betterravenrock.esp
54 36 Better Vampires.esp
55 37 Better Dynamic Snow.esp
56 38 LB_MuchAdoSnowElves_Quest.esp
57 39 iomaungandr rising.esp
58 3a quest_nomercy.esp
59 3b SMIM-Merged-All.esp
60 3c quest into the depth.esp
61 3d aedric ritual remake.esp
62 3e Immersive Patrols II.esp
63 3f InvestedMagic.esp
64 40 quest_seaofghosts.esp
65 41 markarth_plus.esp
66 42 konahrik_accoutrements.esp
67 43 tos_laintardale_hf.esp
68 44 tos_oakwood_hf.esp
69 45 adura_skyrimmerchantmod.esp
70 46 amuletsofthedivines.esp
71 47 betterfactionscomplete.esp
72 48 Immersive Weapons.esp
73 49 More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp
74 4a DBM_MoreInterestingLoot_Patch.esp
75 4b DBM_IWIA_Patch.esp
76 4c DBM_IW_Patch.esp
77 4d betterdawnstar.esp
78 4e AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp
79 4f Action Combat.esp
80 50 AgentOfRighteousMight.esp
81 51 duskfalll.esp
82 52 tos_amber_guard.esp
83 53 Frostfall.esp
84 54 DBM_ExtraArmory.esp
85 55 quest_pitfighter.esp
86 56 AFT_ManagedFollowerBoost.esp
87 57 Animated Dragon Wings.esp
88 58 jurgholm.esp
89 59 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
90 5a quest_sorcery.esp
91 5b ForgottenCity.esp
92 5c Champion of Kynareth.esp
93 5d palantirbalanced.esp
94 5e BadGremlinsJarHunt.esp
95 5f WheelsOfLull.esp
96 60 WhiterunInEnhanced.esp
97 61 quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp
98 62 drop_skulls_sp0ckrates.esp
99 63 bettercitiesmorebees.esp
100 64 bettercitiesdocksolitude.esp
101 65 TAVESolitude.esp
102 66 DBM_TAV_Patch.esp
103 67 BGsomethingFishy.esp
104 68 sheogorath_shout.esp
105 69 RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.esp
106 6a Darkend.esp
107 6b WATER Plants.esp
108 6c newplacehermaeusshrine.esp
109 6d arnima.esp
110 6e The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
111 6f Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp
112 70 TAVERiften.esp
113 71 DBM_IA_Patch.esp
114 72 CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp
115 73 konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp
116 74 Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp
117 75 ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp
118 76 named_dragon_skulls_sp0.esp
119 77 matys knights of the nine armor 2.1.esp
120 78 Vampirelordroyal.esp
121 79 tavefalkreath.esp
122 7a TAVEWindhelm.esp
123 7b Cartographers Map Markers.esp
124 7c summersetisles.esp
125 7d isilNarsil.esp
126 7e Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
127 7f Dungeons 6.esp
128 80 MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp
129 81 Wrath Of Nature.esp
130 82 MoonAndStar_WATERPlants_compat.esp
131 83 black knight.esp
132 84 realcompanions_merchant_jorrvaskr_bmb.esp
133 85 realcompanions_skyforge_bmb.esp
134 86 KotN mage-dg.esp
135 87 quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp
136 88 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
137 89 Apocalypse - Dragonborn Staff Crafting.esp
138 8a Better Embers.esp
139 8b Black Mage Armor.esp
140 8c Blaze Of Eventide.esp
141 8d ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
142 8e ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
143 8f WetandCold.esp
144 90 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
145 91 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
146 92 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
147 93 Convenient Horses.esp
148 94 Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp
149 95 Default Teammate Weapon Draw Distance.esp
150 96 THCraftableDawnguardArmory.esp
151 97 DivinePunishmentForArrowsToTheKnee.esp
152 98 DaedricPunishmentForSweetrolls.esp
153 99 DarkManeuvers.esp
154 9a DeadlyCombat.esp
155 9b DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp
156 9c ogDiverseDragons.esp
157 9d DragonBlood.esp
158 9e konahrik_accoutrements_dpe.esp
159 9f duskguardamulet.esp
160 a0 ElementalArrows.esp
161 a1 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
162 a2 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
163 a3 exploreskyrim.esp
164 a4 HearthfireMultiKid.esp
165 a5 HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp
166 a6 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
167 a7 PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp
HoodsAndCirclets.esp
168 a8 t3nd0s masks.esp
169 a9 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
170 aa Thane Weapons Improved - Hearthfire Patch.esp
171 ab ImprovedSkillBooks.esp
172 ac DGInvestedMagic.esp
173 ad Konahriks Privilege by Edhelsereg.esp
174 ae Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
175 af PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
176 b0 LeftHandRings.esp
177 b1 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp
178 b2 LostGrimoire.esp
179 b3 Matys Mithril armor Enhanced.esp
180 b4 Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp
181 b5 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp
182 b6 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp
183 b7 NirShor-MusicalLore.esp
184 b8 no_guard_warning_after_shouts.esp
185 b9 NoldorArmor.esp
186 ba Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
187 bb Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
188 bc PrinceandPauperRS.esp
189 bd WerewolfPerksExpanded.esp
190 be WATER-RND Legendary Patch.esp
191 bf RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
192 c0 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
193 c1 RND_AnimalLoot.esp
194 c2 RND_USKP-Patch.esp
195 c3 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp
196 c4 BVandRB_Formlist.esp
197 c5 RSChildren - Complete.esp
198 c6 RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp
199 c7 RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp
200 c8 RSChildren_PlayableOverride.esp
201 c9 Graesholt - Skyforged Skyforge Weapons.esp
202 ca dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
203 cb Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp
204 cc SkyUI.esp
205 cd Stickier_Arrows V2.esp
206 ce Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
207 cf the psijiic order.esp
208 d0 RGMsAlchemistsCompendium.esp
209 d1 Gray Fox Cowl - Camel patch.esp
210 d2 ultimatedurnehviir.esp
211 d3 Thunderchild - Wyrmstooth Compatibility Patch.esp
212 d4 ultimateodahviing.esp
213 d5 Unique Uniques.esp
214 d6 UnreadBooksGlow.esp
215 d7 VLW_Hybrid.esp
216 d8 VioLens.esp
217 d9 AmuletsofHircine.esp
218 da When Vampires Attack.esp
219 db WATER Falskaar.esp
220 dc Water-RND Falskaar Patch.esp
221 dd Moss Rocks - Legendary.esp
222 de SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp
223 df SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp
224 e0 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
225 e1 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

I honestly cannot figure out what the problem is besides something having to do with NPCs spawning in Solitude, but that hasn't been a problem before. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Bardathe111]

I would also like to apologize for that horrible spoiler. I didn't know the Steam forum handled them like this. If you need me to repost the order, I will. Thank you, fixed the spoiler.

[cfs111]

No need to repost, just edit it and remove the spoiler tags please. That is annoying, LOL

[Bardathe111]

Also, out of curiosity, and I am assuming the answer is yes, but is "bumping" illegal on this forum?

[Karax]

So, you have a lot of mods right there, does this happen ONLY in solitude, and nowhere else?
you crash might happen because of some memory issues, or save bloating.

Check your saves is it bigger than 20 mb?

Also, regarding ENboost, the one on nexus, has been out of date for quite a long time, unless you read a specific comment, here it is, I suggest you try this, maybe it will help:

-If you do this, you will have the complete Sheson's Memory Patch and Boris Vorontsov's ENBoost Combo, which will allow you to have a much more stable Skyrim. Have in mind that ENBoost may not work for everybody, but the Memory Patch should work. In any case, the ENBoost instructions I post here worked very well for me, so you should give it a try.

(Q and A at the end of my post)

-For activating both memory patches, you'll need:



1-SKSE 1.7.2 (Download link: http://skse.silverlock.org/)
-Yes, you have to install this one, all massive Mods require it, and in case you didn't know, non-SKSE-required Mods will corrupt your savegame after their desinstalation sooner or later, since the savegames save the info of ALMOST EVERYTHING, even custom skeletons data which ironically don't require SKSE to work (I tested this).

*Also, the beta build 1.7.3 is available for downloading. This version is actually a normal release version that should work perfectly well, but its stability isn't guaranteed as the 1.7.2 version. Use the beta build 1.7.3 ONLY if a Mod requires it.

-Install SKSE following the instructions provided in this video courtesy from Gopher:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTGnQIiNVqA

-Make a shortcut of skse_loader.exe, it's really important that you do this, you'll know why if you keep reading.



2-Sheson's Memory Patch Commands compatible with SKSE 1.7.1 and higher
-The old Skyrim Memory Patch, and their old commands, are deprecated by the new versions of SKSE and therefore they are useless. Now, Sheson's Skyrim Memory Patch is completely integrated in SKSE. Here are the new commands:

[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

-Write them in SKSE.ini, which should be in (Game root folder, in other words, the folder in which your Skyrim is installed, the Data folder is inside of this folder)\ Data\SKSE, then save the changes.
-If you don't have a SKSE folder inside of the Data folder, create a SKSE folder inside of the Data folder. This also means that you (Probably) don't have SKSE.ini.
-If you don't have a SKSE.ini, create a new text document named SKSE, copy the commands I posted here, save, and after that, change the extension of the document, from .txt to .ini, so you create the .ini file. Now your .ini file should exactly say:

SKSE.ini

-Move SKSE.ini inside of the SKSE folder.

-Right-click the skse_loader.exe shortcut that you made before (It should be in your desktop, in case you didn't move it), then click on Properties.
-Add the following "command" (I forgot the right word in English) to the shortcut target:

-forcesteamloader

-The result should be this:

"(Game root folder)\skse_loader.exe" -forcesteamloader

-Just an example:

"C:\Games\Steam\SteamApps\common\skyrim\skse_loader.exe" -forcesteamloader

-Run the game, load any savegame, save and quit. You shouldn't have any problems if you did everything right.
-Go to the folder in which your Skyrim savegames are stored (Example: My Documents\My Games\Skyrim).
-Open the folder SKSE and then, open skse_steam_loader.log
-You should see this in the command lines, typically near the end of the file:

overriding memory pool sizes
default heap = 768MB (effective 512MB if not preloading animations)
scrap heap = 256MB

-If you see this, that means that Sheson's Memory Patch works correctly! Now, let's move to ENBoost.



3-ENBoost
-This is the most complicated part, but if you do it, that'll be totally awesome : )

-Don't worry, you won't be forced to use ENB, we just need the most basic features of ENB, which won't activate any ENB effects, and therefore you won't get performance loss.

-If you DO want to use ENB, don't worry either, you will be able to use ENBoost and the awesome ENB visual enhancememts : )



THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ THIS:

DON'T USE THE FILES UPLOADED HERE (I added the download link for the necessary files, please keep reading), because they are TOTALLY OUTDATED AND UNSUPPORTED. Not only that, the info offered in the files description is outdated as well, a Modder named dptheslothking has confirmed this after talking to Boris about this, here's the quote, it's several posts behind in case you wanna check it:

dptheslothking:
"Hey community, after recent talks with Boris, he has confirmed that the information on this nexus page description is very outdated and based on his old PC set up."

I'll continue with the guide, let's move on.



-Download ENB, here's the link of all stable versions of ENB for Skyrim, including the latest ENB version:

http://enbdev.com/download_mod_tesskyrim.htm

-Go to the lowest part of the page. You will see several "codes" ordered from up to down that start with the letter v (For example, v0.262). Each one of these "codes" is one of the versions of ENB that are available for download. If you click on any of the versions, you will visit the download page of the version of ENB which you clicked. Don't do anything yet.

-The first "code" that appears in the list is the latest version of ENB. Click on it to go to the download page.

-Go to the lowest part of the page and click on the arrow to download the ENB.

-Boris Vorontsov:
If you read the part in which I ask the users to not download your presets here, please don't get offended, by tweaking the .ini file that comes in the ENB you have in your website, I didn't have to use any of your presets here to make ENBoost to work without problems at the moment. I'm sorry if this causes a misunderstanding, I want to help, that's all : )


ENBoost-Only users (ENBoost plus ENB users, please skip this step and go to the next one):
-Extract the contents of the compressed file wherever you want.

-Open the WrapperVersion folder, and move the following files to a safe place, and make a backup of them, these files are all you need:

d3d9.dll
enbhost.exe
enblocal.ini

-After you made a backup of the 3 files, move them inside of the game root folder (I explained this before, you'll know it if you have read this post with attention).

-Now, you're ready to continue, please skip the "ENBoost plus ENB users" part.


ENBoost plus ENB users:
-If you want to fully install ENB correctly, please read these STEP tutorials (Google it as "skyrim step" to know more about STEP) with EXTREME ATTENTION:

http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:ENB
http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:ENBlocal_INI

-Also, dptheslothking made a video in which he teaches how to install and configure the Injector Version of ENB, all credits go to him. here's the video:



-There should be other tutorials in the internet, but since I don't use ENB (I only use ENBoost), I can't help you in a better way.

-After you have installed ENB, you'll be ready to continue.



Note: In the case of "ENBoost plus ENB users", it's possible that some of you have already learned to configure ENB to activate ENBoost too. If that's your case, don't read this post anymore, the info will be redundant for you.



All users, "ENBoost-Only users" and "ENBoost plus ENB users" alike:


-Open enblocal.ini


-in [GLOBAL], check this line:

UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=

-Set its value to true if you want to activate ENBoost WITHOUT activating ENB, like this:
UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true

OR

-Set its value to false if you want to activate both ENBoost and ENB, like this:
UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=false


-in [MEMORY], check this line:

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=

-Set it to false, because it conflicts with Sheson's Memory Patch in most PCs, and it causes conflicts even if you don't have the Memory Patch activated.
-Since this affects most PCs, but not all of them, if you feel like activating it, check this STEP post first with as much attention as possible, and set its value to true to activate this function, here's the link of the post:

http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:ENBlocal_INI/Memory


-in [MEMORY], check these lines:

ReservedMemorySizeMb=
VideoMemorySizeMb=

-In order to adjust these critical parameters correctly, look for the ReservedMemorySizeMb and VideoMemorySizeMb sections that appear in the lower part of the STEP guide whose link is below, completely and with maximum attention. If necessary, check everything in the internet, and if isn't enough, make trial-and-error with all the info you've gathered, here's the link, by the way:

http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:ENBlocal_INI/Memory

-In STEP memory section, you will find more info abut the other settings not mentioned here, I didn't mention them because they aren't critical for a correct ENBoost operation.



Notes:
(I assume that you read the ENBoost memory configuration tutorial whose link I posted just above)


*For ReservedMemorySizeMb:

-If you have less than 1024 MB of VRAM (Graphics card dedicated memory), I recommend that you use multiples of 64. The maximum should be the half of your VRAM.
-If you have 1024 MB of VRAM or more, use multiples of 128. The maximum must be of 1024.
-The values are in megabytes.


*For VideoMemorySizeMb:

-In his video, dptheslothking made a very accurate and easy to understand explanation about how to configure the VideoMemorySizeMb value, and the way of getting the much needed system values to apply the correct formula, thank you so much, dptheslothking!

Either watch his video above (Skip to 5:29), or click on the link to watch the video in YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfUjhM9Ame8#t=329


*In case you have the same amount of VRAM and RAM as me:
-If you have 512 MB of VRAM and 4 GB RAM, like me, try the following values, these values worked with my Skyrim:

ReservedMemorySizeMb=64
VideoMemorySizeMb=2560


*Optional:
-In case everything fails and/or you want a fresh Skyrim installation without re-installing the game, please check this STEP guide:

http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Make_Skyrim_Vanilla_Again

-In case you restored Skyrim to its vanilla status by following the guide whose link is above, make a backup of your vanilla Skyrim and keep it in a safe place.



FINAL STEP:

-Run the game. As soon the game runs, you should see some words in the upper left corner of your screen, this means that ENBoost has started. Load a savegame or start a new game, if it loads successfully, this means that the ENBoost has been successfully installed and activated!
Happy Gaming!!




Q and A:


Q= Why did you include Sheson's Mem Patch here? This is ENBoost!!!!!11111!!!!
A= By using both of them, you will help your PC much more, and if ENBoost definitely fails for you, Sheson's Memory Patch should work for you.


Q= Why didn't you post this in Nexus Forums instead?!?!!!?
A= My rep here is so low that probably, my thread would have been buried among millions of forgotten threads made by other not-so-popular users. And, this comments section is active too, so I hope some users can get help by reading my post.


Q= Some concepts can be misleading, for example, ENBoost is actually part of ENB.
A= I think yes. Technically ENBoost is the most basic form of ENB, but it doesn't use any of the ENB features. For all effects, I'll refer it as ENBoost. Why?

Because the term ENBoost is more practical and it gets straight to the point.

Happily, ENBoost shouldn't cause problems, let alone FPS huge drops. It will depend on the way in which you configure it.


Q= I've got an awesome method to increase Skyrim performance! Can I share it?
A= Of course! Just make sure that your method works really well, you'll help an entire community.


Q= You have a TL; DR version of your guide?
A= No. Read everything well, it will give you enough patience for when you have to read contracts in the future, you know, they are really extensive, and they are made to break your patience and take total advantage from you in most cases.


Q= Help!!!! It didn't work!!!! And I made EVERY step well!!!!
Q= Help!!!! It didn't work!!!! It even crashes my game!!!! And I made EVERY step well!!!!
A= Then it's not ENB fault. 1 or more of these 6 things happen:


1-Your savegame may be corrupted in a way so it doesn't allow ENBoost to work (Extremely unlikely).
2-You have Mods with corrupted contents (Specially scripts), or contents (Again, specially scripts) that (Could) interfere with ENBoost.
3-You edited the game .ini and/or .txt files in a really bad way, or you downloaded a custom game .ini and/or .txt preset which obviously is not made for your PC.
4-You edited ENB .ini and/or .txt files in a really bad way, or you downloaded a custom ENB .ini and/or .txt preset which obviously is not made for your PC. This conflicts with ENB, and then, crashes happen.
5-Your PC is not made for running ENBoost, let alone ENB (Outdated PC, or buggy/damaged PC, or both).
6-Game bugs that ENBoost can't solve, because those bugs aren't related to ENBoost at all.




Thanks to both Sheson and Boris Vorontsov for making Skyrim Memory Patch and ENBoost, respectively. Now Skyrim can be fully enjoyed, or as much as possible.

Thanks to STEP guides Team, Reddit ENBoost threads, dptheslothking, the Nexus Mods Users who helped me to improve this guide and all others who I forgot to thank, for all the info and help they offered.

I used the info in the guides, comments and videos from the sources mentioned above, checked the info, eliminated the mistakes, added my own knowledge, and made this guide, I hope it's as easy to understand as possible, and of course, I hope it's useful for you : )

First check your save size, and then try that ^^

Also, disabling each and every mod you have...seems like quite an acomplishement, because, having these many mods doesn't come without its consequences, so even if you CORRECTLY disable each of them, making sure there are no scripts running when you make new save...100% there will remain orphan scripts on your save.

[Bardathe111]

Thanks for the reply. I've already cleaned my save, so no worries there. And, thankfully, that is how I installed SKSE and ENBoost. The MemoryBlocks Log confirmed that Sheson's patch is working as the values are getting well beyond 256 for quite some time before crashing. And to answer your first question, yes, the ctd only occurs when loading the actual Solitude cell and not 100% of the time. Like I mentioned, sometimes it will let me load the cell 2 or 3 times before it crashes.

[Karax]

Originally posted by egwhitt:

Thanks for the reply. I've already cleaned my save, so no worries there. And, thankfully, that is how I installed SKSE and ENBoost. The MemoryBlocks Log confirmed that Sheson's patch is working as the values are getting well beyond 256 for quite some time before crashing. And to answer your first question, yes, the ctd only occurs when loading the actual Solitude cell and not 100% of the time. Like I mentioned, sometimes it will let me load the cell 2 or 3 times before it crashes.

I see, well this is a strange problem indeed, but now I am pretty damn sure it's some mods fault, most likely a mod conflicting with something, related to solitude, try searching and cleaning, anything modifying solitude.

[Bardathe111]

I've no doubt you're right. I am currently trying to merge some mods to see if that alleviates some of the issues then I will clean anything related to Solitude and let you know how that goes.

[Bardathe111]

You were right. That seems to have fixed the issue.

[Karax]

Originally posted by egwhitt:

You were right. That seems to have fixed the issue.

Nice! good to see the problem solved

[Bardathe111]

Thanks very much for the help. I appreciate it a ton!

[A French School Girl]

Sorry to be a bugger but I'm confused as to the point of the shortcut you made us make at the beginning? I wasn't directed to use it at all during the implementation of the memory patch.

I'm gonna test my game now without the ENB Boost enabled but if I'm still getting that CTD I'll be coming back to work on that next.

[A French School Girl]

So far everything works after applying the Memory Patch only. If I find I have future crashes I'll be back to employ the use of ENB Boost. I'm noticing I get a high fps drop when I enter the solitude docks (Buddy boy seems to have added quite a lot to the scene) and a couple intermittent freezes but nothing that stops the game entirely.

So all I did was download SKSE from the steam store, created the INI mentioned in the tutorial above, added it to the SKSE folder and that was about it.

Question: Can I increase the memory heap allotted without adverse effects to gameplay? I have more than enough hardware resources available I just wasn't sure if the game wigs out when it's given too much memory to mess around with like how it handles playing at any frame rate higher than 60fps. Just curious!

[Bardathe111]

1. You should totally use ENBoost. It's worth the hassle. 2. Yes you can increase the initial heap to up to 1280; I would recommend as low as you can.

[Bardathe111]

Also, you must be the most powerful necromancer ever to resurrect a thread that is this dead.

[smr1957]

That tutorial is out of date and contains wrong information. Use the following:

SKSE, memory and skse.ini by Ilja -
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/

and:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=815662314

And no, you should NOT increase the initial heap for SKSE above 1024