Pissed Off

[DiegoDog68]

I thought that as a consumer, my job was to purchase the game....and then play it. WRONG. I have to go around for days and waisting hours trying to FIX the game so that it can work here on steam. No longer buying any more games through steam. F them.

[MD44]

What is the issue you are having? Many people are happy to help, just need to know what you are running into.

[DiegoDog68]

That is not the point. I know there are forums, websites and the like. I am starting to get upset at the fact that in most games. It's not a pay, install, play. Now one has to WASTE days trying to get a product going which should have been ready at the go. And if it's a 3rd party game, then Steam should get it's own people to get it all ready to play on its site, or not offer it at all. Wouldn't it be fun if one had to go through all this type of crap after purchasing anything....a cellphone, mp3 player, car?

[MD44]

Yet you post your anger on a forum? Guess I can't help you out, sorry.

[DiegoDog68]

I feel I have no choice but too. I'm gonna have to toil for days or hours to make this game and other games playable. I'm going to ORIGIN where you can get a refund no questions asked.

[JG4_Continu0]

Well... do you want to play the game? We can help you with the game but not with the anger...

[DiegoDog68]

Well, I need to install the mod 3.0 & the new 4. something from a flyers community website right. I just havent tried it yet cause I just spent the last week fixing Rome II and two other games.

[III./ZG76_saipan 17]

strange, never had an issue. you dont even post sys specs. how can people help you?

[JG4_Continu0]

Well yes... you have to install a thing or two:-) But it is sure worth it!
I recommend you go trough this beginners guide:

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5058&p=52711

It takes you trough the most basic steps!

[Borat Sagdiyev]

once the first patch is installed the rest are easy

[DiegoDog68]

Like I said, I already knew where to go and what to install and in what order. I just don't see the point in doing all this extra work for a game to simply work. That's why I didnt post any specs. Thanks for the guidance and words.

[III./ZG76_saipan 17]

hmmm guess you will miss out on all the extra stuff....tanks....flak...new planes...too bad

[DiegoDog68]

Oh no, I'm still going to install the new patches and mods. I didn't just give STEAM my money for free. I like blowing up tanks too much

[startrekmike]

Your issue is not with Steam, your issue is with individual developers, it is important to understand that Steam has nothing to do with fixing games at all, they are only a storefront, it falls on you (the consumer) to make informed choices before hitting the purchase button.

That said, in the case of Cliffs of Dover, Ubisoft and Maddox games are to blame for it's condition on release, Ubisoft rushed it out before it was even finished and Maddox games squandered a ton of development time on a project that was perhaps too ambitious for them to ever really complete in a reasonable time anyway.

So, if you have beef with the way Cliffs of Dover was reelased, you need to stop buying Ubisoft games, Valve (and steam by extension) has nothing to do with it.

[DiegoDog68]

I partially agree with you. But just as one has the ability to purchase an item through a store or online, and it's broken or the buyer is unhappy with the item, one should have the ability to return it. What would be if bestbuy or anyother store would say to a buyer. You do the research for every purchase you wanna make, and if you make the wrong choice, the item is not working correctly.....well too bad. I just got a game through Origin.....I had some troubles with a game...they refunded my money....I will listen to your advise and will abosolutely no longer purchase games from STEAM. To all of you loyal steam followers.....good luck.

[startrekmike]

引用自 DiegoDog68：

I partially agree with you. But just as one has the ability to purchase an item through a store or online, and it's broken or the buyer is unhappy with the item, one should have the ability to return it. What would be if bestbuy or anyother store would say to a buyer. You do the research for every purchase you wanna make, and if you make the wrong choice, the item is not working correctly.....well too bad. I just got a game through Origin.....I had some troubles with a game...they refunded my money....I will listen to your advise and will abosolutely no longer purchase games from STEAM. To all of you loyal steam followers.....good luck.

This is silly, I am sorry but it is, it has nothing to do with "steam loyalty" and everything to do with being mature and intelligent enough to place blame where it belongs.

Here is the thing, if you buy a game at a big box retailer (like Best buy) and it does not work as well as you expect it to but is otherwise free of defects, they don't have to take it back, they only need to take it back if the actual physical product is damaged or defective.

Steam can't police every developer, if they stopped selling games with bugs in them, there would be no more games on steam since EVERY game has bugs that may effect only a specific portion of the buyers or even all of them.

It is important to have the wisdom to recognize the sad truth that just about every major game shipped these days is going to be full of bugs on release, sometimes they get fixed, sometimes they don't and you can either spend some time requried to fix it or you can hop on a forum and whine about the grevious injustice you have suffered, I mean, seriously, installing the Team fusion patches fixes the game, if you don't like the idea of spending your oh so prescious time installing them, that is your business but it is what it is, Valve is under no business obligation to fix every game it sells, if they tried, they would go broke and have nothing to show for it.

If they took back games, it would have the same outcome and it would give foolish customers who don't do even the most basic reading about a game before buying it yet more coddling so that they don't learn from said mistakes.