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Necro Jan 17, 2017 @ 4:48am

When Steam will stop censoring Visual Novels?

Whats the point? Wouldnt it be better to just add an option to turn off adult content or have some kind of certificate of user age confirmation on Steam profile?

There are enough mature content on internet for those who find pleasure in it, why butchering VN's by deleting content, and censoring whats left?

Last edited by Necro; Jan 17, 2017 @ 4:49am

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ZK Jan 17, 2017 @ 5:05am

buy it off Mangagamer shop, it's uncut there.

Da Capo R - X-rated -

http://mangagamer.org/dc3/

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Orange Jan 17, 2017 @ 7:40am

Probably worth noting that this title was initially released as an all-ages title, and the adult content was only added to a later release. So it's not like they actually censored it.

Necro Jan 17, 2017 @ 9:22am

You probably know better than me. My concern was not only about this precise game but about all Visual Novels.

Orange Jan 17, 2017 @ 12:10pm

Yeah, it's more in Valve's hands than any particular publisher though. If they refuse to allow the content on their store than nothing anybody can really do about it.

Personally I don't really mind the current situation that much as long as the uncut version is available somewhere. No harm in offering people a choice. They have allowed some more borderline stuff recently though so maybe the rules will relax further one day, or Valve will create an age-gated section for all this stuff and let them sell it as they please there.

Last edited by Orange; Jan 17, 2017 @ 12:16pm

ZK Jan 17, 2017 @ 12:16pm

Tbh I don't mind as long as a 18+ version is available somehow.

Bowllow Jan 20, 2017 @ 3:52pm

Originally posted by BattleDonut:
Tbh I don't mind as long as a 18+ version is available somehow.

It will be a separate full price purchase. It's too bad that the credit card scam forced mangagamer to stop giving away Steam keys. I would have bought more games from their site.

Dr. Gori Jan 20, 2017 @ 4:03pm

Steam only allows yuri games to be uncensored.

Orange Jan 20, 2017 @ 4:32pm

Originally posted by Bowllow:
Originally posted by BattleDonut:
Tbh I don't mind as long as a 18+ version is available somehow.
It will be a separate full price purchase. It's too bad that the credit card scam forced mangagamer to stop giving away Steam keys. I would have bought more games from their site.

Yeah but at least MG has the decency to make them available the same day rather than making you wait months if you want to get the version with all the content like a certain publisher seems fond of doing.

TrickZZter has Da Capo 3 R

Jan 20, 2017 @ 6:25pm

Originally posted by Dr. Gori:
Steam only allows yuri games to be uncensored.

It's not true. Have you seen this game?

http://store.steampowered.com/app/458380/

Mitsuru Kou has Da Capo 3 R

Jan 21, 2017 @ 12:22am

Originally posted by Bowllow:
Originally posted by BattleDonut:
Tbh I don't mind as long as a 18+ version is available somehow.
It will be a separate full price purchase. It's too bad that the credit card scam forced mangagamer to stop giving away Steam keys. I would have bought more games from their site.

Gabe did answer this question in his recent AMA,

media source(http://steamed.kotaku.com/the-most-interesting-answers-from-gabe-newells-ama-1791313495)

Q: Would you ever consider allowing uncensored video games containing pornographic content to be sold on Steam? Also, where do you draw the line for content on Steam?

A: In principle, there are two problems to solve. The first is a completely uncurated distribution tool for developers. The second is a toolset for customers that allow them to find and filter content (and people are an instance of content most obviously in multiplayer) that is best for them.

but in a word or from my understanding,
they want to be open to all type of content,
but the current system to filter still need fixing,
as to provide better experience for the public.

Last edited by Mitsuru Kou; Jan 21, 2017 @ 12:31am

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Mitsuru Kou has Da Capo 3 R

Jan 21, 2017 @ 12:30am

Originally posted by Liam Neeson Punching Wolves:
I'd rather steam just got rid of them altogether.

remove choices? Wow... I though u people didn’t exist consumer being anti-consumer I was wrong.

Last edited by Mitsuru Kou; Jan 21, 2017 @ 12:30am

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NewMoonShadow Jan 21, 2017 @ 12:46am

Originally posted by Orange:
Yeah, it's more in Valve's hands than any particular publisher though. If they refuse to allow the content on their store than nothing anybody can really do about it.

Personally I don't really mind the current situation that much as long as the uncut version is available somewhere. No harm in offering people a choice. They have allowed some more borderline stuff recently though so maybe the rules will relax further one day, or Valve will create an age-gated section for all this stuff and let them sell it as they please there.

That's actually not true. Publishers CAN release adult VN's on Steam if they sell the censored version, and publish an official uncensor patch on their forums. Many different indie publishers have stated that Valve specifically told them that it's A-OK to do this. Plus in a lot of instances these games have simple nipples censored, which actually are OK to have in Steam games, or else many AAA titles like Watch Dogs, GTA V, and The Witcher 3 would not be allowed on the platform.

The problem is that many of these VN makers have a deal with MangaGamer, who wants the adult version of each title to be available exclusively on their site, so that they can reap more of the profit. This is also why they will often provide Steam keys to people who buy from MangaGamer, effectively decapitating any competition they may have gotten from Steam as a storefront.

The only people who will ever buy these games from Steam are those who either refuse to buy from other websites (including ones that publish adult content, like MangaGamer), or those too innocent to realize that the game is censored and don't do any research anyway. Those people are the reason MangaGamer allows these games to be released on Steam at all, but they sure as Hell don't want the full uncensored version to be available anywhere but their own storefront.

It's as anti-consumer as a practice can get, undercutting one's competition and neutering their products to make your own look more appealing. But it doesn't seem like the trend is going to die any time soon.

Last edited by NewMoonShadow; Jan 21, 2017 @ 12:47am

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ZK Jan 21, 2017 @ 12:53am

@NewMoonShadow Valve specifically told MG they cannot sell their 18+ products on Steam (or patch them/facilitate patches) you couldn't be more wrong.

Last edited by ZK; Jan 21, 2017 @ 12:53am

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NewMoonShadow Jan 21, 2017 @ 12:59am

Originally posted by BattleDonut:
@NewMoonShadow Valve specifically told MG they cannot sell their 18+ products on Steam (or patch them/facilitate patches) you couldn't be more wrong.

Really? Multiple other adult game producers have specifically stated otherwise, including the developers of HuniePop, Sunrider, Beach Bounce, and the Sakura games.

Funny how it seems like the only company who has been told that they cannot under any circumstance release uncensor patches is the one who has their own storefront, isn't it...?

Plus, y'know, the Developers of Beach Bounce straight-up said they delayed the uncensor patch for the game because of their deal with MangaGamer. I believe the thread is deleted now, but the patch is currently live and linked directly from their forum.

Last edited by NewMoonShadow; Jan 21, 2017 @ 1:07am

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