L4D2 comes with all campaigns from L4D1 = Do not buy L4D1

[TheFriendlyBro]

There is no point in buying this if Left 4 Dead 2, basically comes with the first game.

[gabe]

That argument is invalid because some people prefer the l4d1 feel and more simplistic gameplay. I hate l4d2 but love l4d1 and im not alone. Just my 2 cents

[gary]

i agree with neo's 2 cents

we have currently raised 4cents

[TheFriendlyBro]

Only read I would get L4D1 is just to not experience the infected known as the Jocky

[W.M.A.]

I'm planning on getting L4D1 for PC, and I hate L4D2. L4D1 weapons, models, gameplay, all better.

[TheFriendlyBro]

This is what I do not understand, what is the difference in gameplay?
It seems identical to me

[Marcus101RR]

l4d1 wins my money and modding skills, meanshile l4d2 too much broken boobs hanging out.

[⊹]

♥♥♥♥ off you are ♥♥♥♥

[RainingMetal]

Another fool who can't see the fine differences. I'd list them all in detail, but that would be like playing Mozart to a tree frog.

[Ejot112]

What you people dont understand is that, they made left for dead 2 to continue a story of this zombie apocolypse, ok? if they didnt make Left for dead 2, than left for dead one would be very boring and make no sence, Reason being is that, left for dead 1 only has 6 weapons total (All guns, no melee weapons), 4 campains (excluding dlc) and only 4 Special zombies (including the tank). With little to none variety not many people are going to cling on to this game series with out some. So when they decided to make l4d2 they put in more guns, more zombies, and more maps so people can have new experiences than just the same 4 maps with the same 6 weapons and the same zombies over and over and over again. And if you Truly hated l4d2 you are a Jaded A-hole, Come on man, you seriously hate slicing zombies heads open with a Katana? whats wrong with you, Also if L4D2 was seriously that "Complicated" for you to play then you need an IQ check cuz, no, its not, its almost Directly the same game. And even know i DID like left 4 dead 1 a little better, im defending Left for dead 2 because, i have respect for "Left 4 Dead" AS a Whole, Not a segregated game series like Call of Duty

[MeSive]

And dont forget how they butchered the original left 4 dead maps, they didnt even had L4D 1 survivor animations they were just skins. Atmosphere is gone, new characters are dull compared to original cast, more bugs and glitches and so on. Do we need ton of weapons? I think the original 5 was pretty balanced. Also half of the new weapons are worse compared to older game.(scar, army shotgun,sniper lot weaker in my opinion). We can go forever like this, for me adding original maps, constant mocking of the game and overpowering of special infected with every third update killed left 4 dead 2 for me.

[Ejot112]

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What you people dont understand is that, they made left for dead 2 to continue a story of this zombie apocolypse, ok? if they didnt make Left for dead 2, than left for dead one would be very boring and make no sence, Reason being is that, left for dead 1 only has 6 weapons total (All guns, no melee weapons), 4 campains (excluding dlc) and only 4 Special zombies (including the tank). With little to none variety not many people are going to cling on to this game series with out some. So when they decided to make l4d2 they put in more guns, more zombies, and more maps so people can have new experiences than just the same 4 maps with the same 6 weapons and the same zombies over and over and over again. And if you Truly hated l4d2 you are a Jaded A-hole, Come on man, you seriously hate slicing zombies heads open with a Katana? whats wrong with you, Also if L4D2 was seriously that "Complicated" for you to play then you need an IQ check cuz, no, its not, its almost Directly the same game. And even know i DID like left 4 dead 1 a little better, im defending Left for dead 2 because, i have respect for "Left 4 Dead" AS a Whole, Not a segregated game series like Call of Duty

>only 4 Special zombies (including the tank).

In the original L4D you had special's that would tear you apart in L4D2 you have a zombie jumping on your back Do you REALLY want that? When i want enemies who make me laugh I go to TF2 not my favorite zombie game

>And if you truly hated l4d2 you are a jaded A-hole, Come on man, You seriously hate slicing zombies heads open with a kantana?

And the funny part is somebody has a kantana LYING in their backyard OOOooooo a ninja must have lived there and is now a Zombie! Better watch out for the new special infected who now slices you open with swords!

>Directly the same game.

Please tell me why would the military set up an evac center in a MALL or why even would you go to a CARNIVAL in a middle of a zombie apocolaypse? And just to sum it up there was a Random chopper there I highly doubt the chopper pilot would go to a carnival And do you really think your going to find supplies or your beloved Kantana? The survivors gave no care for the apocolaypse all they'd do is joke around because they were the last people on earth Also the VERY first campaign the first panic event was get some guy some coke.. Are you kidding me? If this were the role of the L4D1 survivors they'd argue with him and eventually he'd call in the zombies and maybe he would turn into a Special infected and then you clear the tanker with something Useful in there not get some guy some Coke.

Listen, what im trying to get at, is that, l4d2 has a more fun aspect than just the normal everyday humdrum reality, think about it. Your going at this with the aspect of someone who is anhadonic, you litteraly cant enjoy something because your to busy criticizing it for what its not, and what you want it to be. I mean what did you want the creators to do? Take the game of l4d1 and give it the name of l4d2?? Thats stupid, with no variety, theres no fun. I dont really care or give a crap how that katana got there, i just care that i can use it to kill zombies for FUN. Lets see would i rather be on a bridge and let one of the main characters DIE, OORR.... be at a Rock concert and kill zombies with a Guitar and fire works, which sounds more fun to you. and secondly, if maybe you payed attention to l4d2 instead of skiping through it like a jaded fool, you would REALIZE the characters saw that the helicopter was about to just pass by them and they needed to get its attention, so they set off all the recordings on the speakers and all the fire works to get it to notice them, and they didnt go there ON PURPOSE they went there cuz they heard there was salvation in new orleans, and they saw the helicoper flying around over there , headed tward it and came apon the carnival and headed through it, you derp. Also think about this, Why wouldnt they set up a evac center in a mall? Its very large to fit lots of people, stocked with food cuz of the food court, some malls have gun stores, Malls have tons of things to get creative weapons from, i know a mall that has a sword shop, In Dead Rising where do all the people baricade themselves?... IN THE MALL, in Dawn of the dead!!! WHERE DID THE SURVIVORS GO!!???? THE F**KING MALL!!!!! your mall argument is invalid. so is your carnival argument and the katana argument, and your idea of fun is very dull. And the thing with the coke, ok lets see... whats easier.... arguing for hours with this guy and then have to fight off a horde he alerted, then spend acouple more hours to find a way around this truck??? or... walk 30 feet to help this guy out because he let us take his guns from HIS gun store...this is the obvious choice, so we dont have to take a lot of time on the subject and we can repay this guy for the guns that we technically STOLE. So to recap, all of your arguments are invalid and idiotic, you need to play left 4 dead 2 some more and actually pay attention, be more observitive of whats actually going on, stop being so critical about everything, and sharpen up your dull sense of what fun and reality is and where they should be and shouldn't. FUN should be in a video game, and Reality should stay in the real world where it belongs. Oh, and i can see why you like Left 4 dead so much, its because your just like Francis "I hate small towns" "I hate helicopters" "I hate doctors, and lawers, and cops..", OOOOoooHHH cuz thats SOOOoooo interesting hearing him talk about how he hates everything, right.

[Ejot112]

Im not trying to turn this into a flame war, im just tring to say, that you started to make fun of me when i was talking about the katana aspect, which you didnt have to do, i was trying to point out a fun aspect in the game, that you should try to enjoy not criticize,, you are the one who brought up the coke the carnival and the characters, and im trying to say that you need to have more fun when you play left for dead 2 and not get tence when some one likes it. look i get what your saying, about jockeys and the dude with the coke, but can you really say that it wasnt a fun experience? i mean come on, please try to understand? Im just trying to get you to enjoy left for dead 2, instead of hate on it cuz of some different aspects, you get me? enjoy it as a whole not as a half :/

[RainingMetal]

I'm pretty sure the only one who wanted to start a flame war is the TC.

[TheFriendlyBro]

Well I would like to appolgise if I annoyed anyone with this post! The only thing's I do not like about L4D2 is the damn Jockey's and Spitters but that is about it...

[Thefiery100]

The reason I prefer L4D over L4D2 is due to the main atmosphere and how the game was designed. In L4D, I felt like Valve really worked their butts off into making such a horrific game. The zombie models were great, and in-fact, scared me a bit up-close. The maps were amazing as your surroundings and atmosphere resembled the horror of a zombie apolocypse. The characters were perfect fittting as they took on the zombies in great resemblence.

Now, what does L4D2 have to offer? A face humping monkey for a special infected, new zombie models that look like complete crap (imo), maps with daylight that completely ruin the mood of a horror game, and other uninteresting elements such as melees? Valve completely changed Left 4 Dead 2 and made it worse than its prequel. The characters were horrible and weren't fit at all for a zombie apoloclypse, the new special infected didn't seem....how do I say it....legit for this sort of game.

By literally changing L4D2, we can evaluate Valve focused more on the gameplay and rather ignored the mood of the game which was supposed to resemble horror which now resembles complete utter nonsense. I feel happy playing Left 4 Dead 1 as I don't have to experience those failures of a kind in my gameplay mechanics that swarm Left 4 Dead 2. Thank the lords.