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EvieCryophoenix has Team Fortress 2

Apr 22, 2017 @ 2:05pm

My ideas for weapon balancing

These are my ideas for possible weapon balances, there are some weapons (such as the sun on a stick) that I have no idea how to balance, if you do leave a comment!

Scout:

Baby Face’s: No loss in boos when double jump, harsher loss in boost when hit

Backscatter: Remove increased spread, add fire speed decease

Fan-o-war: Increase base damage to 20. 60 damage crit, 1st hit 20, then other hits 60 damage. 20+60+60=140, 3 hits to kill a squishy class. For comparison: 35 (stock bat damage) x 4 = 140

Candy cane: remove explosive vulnerability, add a health penalty

Basher: If miss hit yourself, but doesn’t apply bleed to yourself

Shortstop: Add less spread (like tomislav)

Soldier:

Bison: Revert changes

Liberty launcher: Remove increased rocket speed, Increase explosive jumping resistance, (maybe) increase damage and decrease blast radius

Cow mangler: Can be crit boosted, increase damage to buildings

Bazooka: Can collect ammo from dispensers when active

Pain train: Increase healing received from cart

Mantreads: Decreased fall damage taken

Pyro:

Phlog: Minicrits instead of crits, M2 destroys projectiles (similar to short circuit)

Volcano Fragment: adds a “marked for death” effect but only increases fire damage taken, increase switch-off speed

Manmelter: Same trajectory as flare, shooting a team mate extinguishes them (doesn’t store a crit)

Demo:

Claidheamh Mòr: Revert changes

Caber: Add cooldown, explodes and does aoe (65 if normal hit, 195 if crit) , when exploded does 65 dmg, increase self damage to 100.
So if someone charges with a shield and gets a 195 crit it will do 195 aoe damage, but if someone does a normal hit it will do 65 aoe damage.

Loch-n-load: Remove increased damage dealt to buildings, decrease explosion radius, increase damage by 25%. A direct hit for demo

Scottish resistance: The longer stickies are active the more damage they do, start at 75% of original and increases to 125% over 5 secs, remove 0.8 longer priming time.

Heavy:

Brass beast: Remove decrease spin up/move speed, the longer the gun is revved the more damage it does (similar to Scottish resistance)

Dalokas bar: Passive +50 hp, but when eaten only heals 150 hp (with cooldown the same as sandvich) , and when thrown is a small hp kit.

Medic:

Overdose: Increased speed when healing, Remove "Übercharge percentage increases movement speed by up to 20%."

Vitasaw: Increased uber charge rate after recently dying, remove "User retains at most 20% of a full ÜberCharge meter on death."

Sniper:

Classic: Have normal move speed when charging (or maybe like 10% less)

Engineer:

Mini-sentry: Reduce range, increase cost by like 5. That means that an engi will need to get ammo before being able to put another minsentry down. Less sentry spam

Last edited by EvieCryophoenix; Apr 22, 2017 @ 2:56pm

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TheManWhoCanScissor has Team Fortress 2

Apr 22, 2017 @ 2:05pm

delete this please

EvieCryophoenix has Team Fortress 2

Apr 22, 2017 @ 2:06pm

rude

Loot Goblin has Team Fortress 2

Apr 22, 2017 @ 2:06pm

remove unlockable weapons- too confusing for new players.

Mossy Snake has Team Fortress 2

Apr 22, 2017 @ 2:07pm

Why buff the Vita-Saw? it's already the most broken weapon in the game if used correctly!

EvieCryophoenix has Team Fortress 2

Apr 22, 2017 @ 2:08pm

Originally posted by MossyRathalos:
Why buff the Vita-Saw? it's already the most broken weapon in the game if used correctly!

Not buff it, replace the "User retains at most 20% of a full ÜberCharge meter on death."

Reiddonith has Team Fortress 2

Apr 22, 2017 @ 2:09pm

Originally posted by Chill Nye the Team Fortress Guy:
remove unlockable weapons- too confusing for new players.

They do make the game unfun, and what not

totally not like stock has been balenced to be the best choice

Mossy Snake has Team Fortress 2

Apr 22, 2017 @ 2:09pm

Originally posted by JaikMarley:
Originally posted by MossyRathalos:
Why buff the Vita-Saw? it's already the most broken weapon in the game if used correctly!
Not buff it, replace the "User retains at most 20% of a full ÜberCharge meter on death."

The "increase Uber charge speed" may be even more problematic depending on the percentage and how long it lasts.

EvieCryophoenix has Team Fortress 2

Apr 22, 2017 @ 2:11pm

Originally posted by MossyRathalos:
Originally posted by JaikMarley:
Not buff it, replace the "User retains at most 20% of a full ÜberCharge meter on death."
The "increase Uber charge speed" may be even more problematic depending on the percentage and how long it lasts.

I'm trying to make it more skill oriented, and it will only last for a little while.

EvieCryophoenix has Team Fortress 2

Apr 22, 2017 @ 3:16pm

True... Even after years I still mainly use stock weapons for my main damage source

Originally posted by Reiddonith:
Originally posted by Chill Nye the Team Fortress Guy:
remove unlockable weapons- too confusing for new players.
They do make the game unfun, and what not

totally not like stock has been balenced to be the best choice [/quote]

SuchMuse (Sims Legit) has Team Fortress 2

Apr 22, 2017 @ 3:18pm

Noh.

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Short Fuse has Team Fortress 2

Apr 22, 2017 @ 3:24pm

Originally posted by yug gnikaeps esreveR:
Noh.

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Playerrrr

Apr 23, 2017 @ 10:52am

Changes that are definitely wrong:

Back scatter - it's an ambush weapon. When you ambush you want to kill enemy fast and you are usually close to him

Fan of war - this weapon is not supposed to do damage by itself

Basher - health loss would be much easier to control, that would not be enough to balance that uber support that it gives

Mini sentrys - They were nerfed enough, and they are really easy do destroy. Personally I started to think about using stock wrench in offense instead of them. People have to start to think how they play instead of going rambo .

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EvieCryophoenix has Team Fortress 2

Apr 23, 2017 @ 11:22am

Originally posted by Playerrrr:
Changes that are definitely wrong:

Back scatter - it's an ambush weapon. When you ambush you want to kill enemy fast and you are usually close to him

Fan of war - this weapon is not supposed to do damage by itself

Basher - health loss would be much easier to control, that would not be enough to balance that uber support that it gives

Mini sentrys - They were nerfed enough, and they are really easy do destroy. Personally I started to think about using stock wrench in offense instead of them. People have to start to think how they play instead of going rambo .

You make a good point on the Back scatter and mini sentry.
Maybe the mini-sentry could deploy quicker and have a shorter range, so the engi has to be more offensive. And you could still build uber with the boston basher, but if you take away the bleed it will be a lot less annoying to deal with, no "O SH*T O SH*IT WHERES A HP PACK" moments

I dont really know how to balance the FOW, but right now it's only good in mvm.

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