[MegaThread] Dino Re-balance Discussion

[Nubsly]

Just merging them all.

-Nubsly

[Crimson King]

NERF tamed dinos

Tamed dinos are stupid, they kill the pve factor, they re so much stronger than wild ones that they become god among wild dinos after 2 level plus they have armor.

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My stego is lvl 30, i killed like 10-12(there are more corpse but i couldnt capture them all in one screen) trikes AT ONCE and half of them were lvl 20-25. They didnt even damage me for 1/20 hp, thats completely stupid and broken, i' m on a dino, not inside a M1 Abrams. Even a lvl 60 trex shouldnt stand a chance vs TWELVE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ TRIKES charging at him.

I'm ok with tamed dinos to be a little bit stronger than tamed ones, maybe 20% higher stats? And im ok with the armor thing(i dont know how much it affects the game, can someone explain that rocket science?). But please, its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid that im able to exterminate the whole island with a single dino

[Larai]

Taming in general is a bit silly. The damage, the hp, and the amount of tamed animals at one time. I don't have any tamed dinos. I just run around with my pike and long rifle all day.

[zantax]

try maxing the difficulty slider

[Full Clog Destroyer]

Originally posted by Storm Vanguard One:

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I fully believe they should implement a 3 dino limit for each person. So tribes of 3 would have 9 dinos at the max. I also believe it's a very hard thing to balance this game over an assumed reality. Twelve trikes charging a T-Rex should kill the T-Rex. At the same time a T-Rex being charged knows it's outnumbered and would run. It's something with the AI they'll need to fix

[Crimson King]

Im playing on a pvp server, i dont know if i can max the difficulty slider. Anyway its poor design, is my stego made of adamantium? im ok with the "my lvl 30 stego is stronger than a wild 30 stego" thing, but come on, tamed animals are the most op things i' ve ever seen

Originally posted by JDrake1987:

Originally posted by Storm Vanguard One:

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I fully believe they should implement a 3 dino limit for each person. So tribes of 3 would have 9 dinos at the max. I also believe it's a very hard thing to balance this game over an assumed reality. Twelve trikes charging a T-Rex should kill the T-Rex. At the same time a T-Rex being charged knows it's outnumbered and would run. It's something with the AI they'll need to fix

No, just set the trex to neutral(we re talking about TAMED animals, not wild ones, but you got a point)and its your fault if YOUR trex is running toward twelve trikes, you deserve to lost the dino.

I dont like the limit number, if i want to walk with 20 dilos i should be able to do it. I can just think of some limit for specific dinos, like max 1 or 2 trex/spino, 3 carno or something like that.
Anyway the point is, nerf the Panzer IV tamed dinos

[Crimson King]

Am i the only one thinking this aspect is stupidly broken?


Better comment the next "qq argentavis has no VTOL anymore, plz gimme back my feathered UFO :((( " or "i quit the game because i play on a pvp server and you know, guys raided me, unfair :/ "( and yes, nerfing tamed dinos has the effect of ramping up difficulty of raiding, you know)

LOL

[𖤐Mori𖤐]

To be honest I noticed tamed stuff was a bit off on how it should be. Its worse though if you have a Ascendant saddle dropped from a Admin or so. take a primitive and like x2 the stats or so on it. But its not really a biggie to me, you should jump on a Bronto and smack some bushes and you'll see a bigger issue then "OP Tamed Dinos"

[Yama]

Yeah, tamed dinos seem al little too strong to me as well.

[Dragonlord3344]

yea why not, i spent like 3 hours taming this thing but lets nerf it anyway, UHH NO

[Atlantic]

I do have to agree with op...

my gigantic turtle would kill 2-3 trikes alone when she was level 20 and the trikes were level 11-15... I mean, sure, it out levels, but 3 trikes should be able to take down a gigantic turtle!

[Crimson King]

Originally posted by Lein Kroniid:

To be honest I noticed tamed stuff was a bit off on how it should be. Its worse though if you have a Ascendant saddle dropped from a Admin or so. take a primitive and like x2 the stats or so on it. But its not really a biggie to me, you should jump on a Bronto and smack some bushes and you'll see a bigger issue then "OP Tamed Dinos"

I dont get your bronto reference. You mean the berries gathering? I' m fine with it, it takes serveral hours to tame one, its ok if it brings some big improvements.
If you re refering to the immense splash damage it delivers well, you re totally right. I cant even imagine what kind of genocide an high level bronto can bring... Thanks to that stupid game design...

Originally posted by Dragonlord3344:

yea why not, i spent like 3 hours taming this thing but lets nerf it anyway, UHH NO

I tamed it 2, so you know, and it took like 3 hours as well, but I like to IMPROVE the game, not to close an eye on certain aspects because they make my life easier.

This is just a poor way of alpha testing, you know

[Calruin]

Originally posted by Storm Vanguard One:

Am i the only one thinking this aspect is stupidly broken?


Better comment the next "qq argentavis has no VTOL anymore, plz gimme back my feathered UFO :((( " or "i quit the game because i play on a pvp server and you know, guys raided me, unfair :/ "( and yes, nerfing tamed dinos has the effect of ramping up difficulty of raiding, you know)

LOL

Nope, I am sure there is a few more people out there who might agree with you.

I'm not one of them. I see taming and leveling them like training. They are going to be stronger than their counter parts of the same level or around in the wild. If you're able to dominant most mobs of your level. That means you have skill and picked the right stats to lvl. Just because you can do it, doesn't mean everyone one else is on the same level.

My honest advise, is if you're finding no challenge attacking the same lvl or lower, then attack higher.

[Digital Aura]

I tend to agree. Although, I think the need to buff the NPC dinos, not nerf the tamed ones. They've rolled out an AI fix for NPCs and so now they'll at least target you quicker...will have to see how this pans out.

[Walrus]

The issue is dino AI, the dino you tame has the same stats as the one you killed (before it levels any). The issue is a AI dino never attacks as well as a person. Once they rework AI better it will be stronger. Tamed dino's aren't OP, the issue is that untamed AI is not good enough yet.

[Crimson King]

Originally posted by Misteragamer:

Originally posted by Storm Vanguard One:

Am i the only one thinking this aspect is stupidly broken?


Better comment the next "qq argentavis has no VTOL anymore, plz gimme back my feathered UFO :((( " or "i quit the game because i play on a pvp server and you know, guys raided me, unfair :/ "( and yes, nerfing tamed dinos has the effect of ramping up difficulty of raiding, you know)

LOL

Nope, I am sure there is a few more people out there who might agree with you.

I'm not one of them. I see taming and leveling them like training. They are going to be stronger than their counter parts of the same level or around in the wild. If you're able to dominant most mobs of your level. That means you have skill and picked the right stats to lvl. Just because you can do it, doesn't mean everyone one else is on the same level.

My honest advise, is if you're finding no challenge attacking the same lvl or lower, then attack higher.

Ok, wait. ITS OK if a tamed dino is STRONGER than the wild counterpart, you train it etc, totally agree.

What im pointing out is that ITS STUPID that a tamed dino is 1000x stronger than the wild one, you get it?