Why does an MGS game require GRINDING?!

[jet27]

So, I've been trying to get through the story as fast as possibe (which is, apparently, over 30 hours), and eventually ran into a mission that could not, in any way, be completed without investing way more time into staff recruitment.
And it's story-related, so i cannot just skip it either.
I'll try to explain the issue without spoiling anything:
You have to exctract a kid from the battlefied... from the top of a tower. Children cannot be extracted by regular fulton, and there's no way to get down from there while carrying a person, without jumping to your, or/and their death.

The fulton for kids requires 24lvl RnD and 24lvl Support units.
For some people that won't seem like a lot, I know. Don't bother pointing that out.

But I don't want to wander around the desert looking for random dudes to steal from the field for hours and hours. Because that's how much it would take me to level up both units - hours and hours.

So I basically pulled half the staff from other teams and put them in those two. Barely got there... And then, after starting the fulton development, I made a mistake - autoassigned people back to appropriate teams. Now the development will take almost an hour.
And the sigar doesn't cut that time down (or the chopper deployment time, btw). Logic much?

WHY CAN'T I JUST PLAY THE GAME? I'M NOT HERE TO SPEND A HUNDRED HOURS HUNTING FOR SOME ♥♥♥♥OFF DUDES WHO HAVE HIGHER GRADES THAN OTHERS!
THIS IS ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ME OFF!
EVERYTHING, EVERY ♥♥♥♥ING THING TAKES AGES TO DO IN THIS GAME!!!!!!!
THIS OPEN-WORLD-PROGRESSION-NUMBER-FAPPING-GRINDY-♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ HAS RUINED THIS MGS FOR ME!!!!!

Remember when we just found all the cool gadgets on the enemy base? "Procure on site", eh?
Those were the times, huh...

[Nargacuga]

Peace Walker is an MGS mainline game. This stuff has been in the series for years now.

[jet27]

Originally posted by Nargacuga:

Peace Walker is an MGS mainline game. This stuff has been in the series for years now.

PW had a linear campaing that progressed at a reasonable pace.
The only big problem you could have with it if you were after completion were the bosses.
And that was because of the co-op orientation, not the Mother Base.
Not so much here.

[Lone Wanderer]

Originally posted by jet27:

So, I've been trying to get through the story as fast as possibe (which is, apparently, over 30 hours), and eventually ran into a mission that could not, in any way, be completed without investing way more time into staff recruitment.
And it's story-related, so i cannot just skip it either.
I'll try to explain the issue without spoiling anything:
You have to exctract a kid from the battlefied... from the top of a tower. Children cannot be extracted by regular fulton, and there's no way to get down from there while carrying a person, without jumping to your, or/and their death.

The fulton for kids requires 24lvl RnD and 24lvl Support units.
For some people that won't seem like a lot, I know. Don't bother pointing that out.

But I don't want to wander around the desert looking for random dudes to steal from the field for hours and hours. Because that's how much it would take me to level up both units - hours and hours.

So I basically pulled half the staff from other teams and put them in those two. Barely got there... And then, after starting the fulton development, I made a mistake - autoassigned people back to appropriate teams. Now the development will take almost an hour.
And the sigar doesn't cut that time down (or the chopper deployment time, btw). Logic much?

WHY CAN'T I JUST PLAY THE GAME? I'M NOT HERE TO SPEND A HUNDRED HOURS HUNTING FOR SOME ♥♥♥♥OFF DUDES WHO HAVE HIGHER GRADES THAN OTHERS!
THIS IS ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ME OFF!
EVERYTHING, EVERY ♥♥♥♥ING THING TAKES AGES TO DO IN THIS GAME!!!!!!!
THIS OPEN-WORLD-PROGRESSION-NUMBER-FAPPING-GRINDY-♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ HAS RUINED THIS MGS FOR ME!!!!!

Remember when we just found all the cool gadgets on the enemy base? "Procure on site", eh?
Those were the times, huh...

because kojima

[fee1dead]

There is a lot of levels where there are kids you can't fulton. They want you to either have a car dropped of and drive them to the Chopper or walk them to a chopper. Try to use your brain and you'll do fine.

[succ]

This wasn't the game for you im afraid, its a game based on building up an army and your arsenal, not a traditional MGS game

[Doctor Hello]

There are other ways to extract than fultons.

[jet27]

Originally posted by EV¡ן:

There is a lot of levels where there are kids you can't fulton. They want you to either have a car dropped of and drive them to the Chopper or walk them to a chopper. Try to use your brain and you'll do fine.

Yeah, and I've been through those before.
Problem is - this one is at the top of a tower, with no stairs down, no ledges to jump down to, nothing. Just a straight drop to the ground.
Trying to carry him from there is death for both of us.
So chopper is off the table.
I've explained that in the OP-post.
Try reading properly and you'll do fine.

[jet27]

Originally posted by the "Take On Me" music video:

There are other ways to extract than fultons.

Not in this case. I can't carry the guy to the chopper. Please re-read the OP post, I explained why.

[SageX85]

I feel your pain, its the same thing for me and why i havent finished peace walker. Im among those who prefer a nice 12 hrs campaign with a mind blowing story than 100 hrs campaign grinding for crap.

[Wolfred]

I dont know why, but i'm fine with it.I've been going through all the series thou.

[Zaqnak]

i'm at R&D lvl 32, support level 31 and i haven't even found what unlocks child fultoning yet :P been fultoning most people i find and dismissing bad stats. Never felt like this is grindy for me, I'm constantly on high resources and GMP.

[langman2004]

Just reassign them back to where they were before you messed up, finish the development, and then don't worry about it again. nothing to get upset about

[baddude1337]

I'm inclined to agree. Even compared to PW, there is quite a grind. Fuel resource especially is hard to come by, and the base upgrades start to take ages (my recent one was 2 and a half hours of in game time). And the weapon upgrades have started costing an insane amount of GMP (300,000+ just so I can get attachements for a single pistol, the hell?).

The game is really fun, but I'm starting to feel like I've hit a F2P game's paywall.

[blackELEPHANT[Mr. A.]]

what tower? Does he mean white mamaba or how ever Ela/liquid is named.
That Boat you can just go down. what mission? Number?

[Atrus]

This isn't new, Peace Walker had the same system.