With the upcoming nerf...

[Shadow Slayer]

WTB Simulor, Tonkor, and Telos Boltace rivens for 1 plat each :P

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

Melee rivens don't exist. At least not yet.

[50 Yuan Goyard Wallet]

lol u realise that the "nerfs" wont affect the weapons with a downgrade but a "buff"

they will basically enchance the weapons but kinda decrease them so that the community uses the other forgotten memes that we call mastery fodder xD

[Jusaboi]

I have a problem once Tonkor does self-damage
Sometimes the nades blow up on my face for no reason, so now what?
I'm going to get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by my own grenades?

[☆SaruもLEX☆]

Originally posted by Ju55i.K:

I have a problem once Tonkor does self-damage
Sometimes the nades blow up on my face for no reason, so now what?
I'm going to get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by my own grenades?

Have you ever (hear me out now this is important) thought that maybe you shouldn't fire the grenade right next to you? Not that I think you're incompetent and could never think of shooting at a distance longer than 7m.





But I do.

[Sithis]

Originally posted by Ju55i.K:

I have a problem once Tonkor does self-damage
Sometimes the nades blow up on my face for no reason, so now what?
I'm going to get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by my own grenades?

Welcome to the world of non-selective explosions, or every Launcher-type user aside from Tonkor.

Originally posted by Shadow Slayer:

WTB Simulor, Tonkor, and Telos Boltace rivens for 1 plat each :P

While there are no Rivens for melee weapons, both Tonkor and Simulor have Faint Disposition, which means that Rivens for them are always "Meh" at best and just inferior to regular mods all the other time. These are not the weapons you typically want Rivens for anyway, unless you got extremely lucky with all four stat modifiers being exceptionally fitting, and all-positives.

[Jusaboi]

Originally posted by ✪K-Streak:

Originally posted by Ju55i.K:

I have a problem once Tonkor does self-damage
Sometimes the nades blow up on my face for no reason, so now what?
I'm going to get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by my own grenades?

Have you ever (hear me out now this is important) thought that maybe you shouldn't fire the grenade right next to you? Not that I think you're incompetent and could never think of shooting at a distance longer than 7m.





But I do.

Yeah yeah, real funny

I shoot it towards enemies in the other end of a long hallway, but it blows itself up right when it's launched

[☆SaruもLEX☆]

Originally posted by Ju55i.K:

Originally posted by ✪K-Streak:

Have you ever (hear me out now this is important) thought that maybe you shouldn't fire the grenade right next to you? Not that I think you're incompetent and could never think of shooting at a distance longer than 7m.





But I do.

Yeah yeah, real funny

I shoot it towards enemies in the other end of a long hallway, but it blows itself up right when it's launched

You seem to have a fundamental misconception on how the weapon works.

[Jusaboi]

Originally posted by ✪K-Streak:

Originally posted by Ju55i.K:

Yeah yeah, real funny

I shoot it towards enemies in the other end of a long hallway, but it blows itself up right when it's launched

You seem to have a fundamental misconception on how the weapon works.

Hm. Fine then.

All I know that sometimes Tonkor's grenades blow up on my face when there's absolutely no reason to, and sometimes they don't.

It hasn't bothered me for now, afterall It's only been a waste of ammo, but soon it's going to be a problem.

So, mind educating me?

[Sithis]

Originally posted by Ju55i.K:

Originally posted by ✪K-Streak:

You seem to have a fundamental misconception on how the weapon works.

Hm. Fine then.

All I know that sometimes Tonkor's grenades blow up on my face when there's absolutely no reason to, and sometimes they don't.

It hasn't bothered me for now, afterall It's only been a waste of ammo, but soon it's going to be a problem.

So, mind educating me?

Are you host, or are you a client when that happens?
I had this weird feeilng that some projectiles' collision - not all of them, mind you - is being calculated server-side and not clientside like the rest of them, or hitscans, which means that if there is some desync going on and the server thinks an enemy is in front of you, the nade will explode upon hitting it from Server's perspective, even if you as a client have those same enemies in a different spot.
Also, Tonkor's nades are supposed to explode upon contact with the character, too, so if you are moving fast enough, you can collide with your own nade, too.

[Jusaboi]

Originally posted by Sithis:

Originally posted by Ju55i.K:

Hm. Fine then.

All I know that sometimes Tonkor's grenades blow up on my face when there's absolutely no reason to, and sometimes they don't.

It hasn't bothered me for now, afterall It's only been a waste of ammo, but soon it's going to be a problem.

So, mind educating me?

Are you host, or are you a client when that happens?
I had this weird feeilng that some projectiles' collision - not all of them, mind you - is being calculated server-side and not clientside like the rest of them, or hitscans, which means that if there is some desync going on and the server thinks an enemy is in front of you, the nade will explode upon hitting it from Server's perspective, even if you as a client have those same enemies in a different spot.
Also, Tonkor's nades are supposed to explode upon contact with the character, too, so if you are moving fast enough, you can collide with your own nade, too.

I play solo 99% of the time.. and I hadn't considered the fact that my hyperspeed volt would be the cause.. well, makes sense

[☆SaruもLEX☆]

Originally posted by Ju55i.K:

Originally posted by Sithis:

Are you host, or are you a client when that happens?
I had this weird feeilng that some projectiles' collision - not all of them, mind you - is being calculated server-side and not clientside like the rest of them, or hitscans, which means that if there is some desync going on and the server thinks an enemy is in front of you, the nade will explode upon hitting it from Server's perspective, even if you as a client have those same enemies in a different spot.
Also, Tonkor's nades are supposed to explode upon contact with the character, too, so if you are moving fast enough, you can collide with your own nade, too.

I play solo 99% of the time.. and I hadn't considered the fact that my hyperspeed volt would be the cause.. well, makes sense

Slow down there sonic.

[Jigmac]

i will sell my tonkor riven for 2 plat, im making a risk here.

[Sithis]

Originally posted by Jigmac:

i will sell my tonkor riven for 2 plat, im making a risk here.

Quick, before the price hasn't dropped to one! You can still make a 1 Plat worth of PROFIT! \o/