A Valley Without Wind 2

A Valley Without Wind 2

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charliedrexvt 9. sep. 2013 kl. 12.53
Should I skip AVWW 1 and go right to 2? Or is the first one worth playing on its own?
Got the games via the Humble Bundle featuring them, and made a few hours' headway into 1. That said, I've noticed that the game seems like it's going to take a significant chunk of time to make any real headway in, and before I get too far into the first one, I was wondering if the second is just a direct improvement over the first (more environment, enemy, equipment variety, etc.)? No offense to the devs, the story is kind of just there to facilitate the gameplay, so I'm not worried about that, but it's kind of a "why play the original when I can play the sequel that's bigger and better?"

Or is there a significant enough difference between the two that it'd be worthwhile to do a play-through of the first?
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tigersfan 9. sep. 2013 kl. 13.12 
They are quite different actually. The biggest difference is probably the control scheme. THe first one is meant to be played with mouse and keyboard. The second is meant to be played w/o a mouse. (either controller or keyboard only). You CAN play with a mouse, but, IMO, it takes away from the game a good bit.
charliedrexvt 9. sep. 2013 kl. 13.42 
Opprinnelig skrevet av tigersfan:
They are quite different actually. The biggest difference is probably the control scheme. THe first one is meant to be played with mouse and keyboard. The second is meant to be played w/o a mouse. (either controller or keyboard only). You CAN play with a mouse, but, IMO, it takes away from the game a good bit.

So if I don't really care about the control scheme, is it otherwise the same formula? Explore a world, complete missions, beat bosses, craft spells, all in no particular order?

Also, I must say I appreciate the quick and personal reply.
L-a-u-r-o 9. sep. 2013 kl. 23.27 
There is a "strong" strategic aspect to the second one. While in the first one you are only limited by the windmill you must place.

In the 2nd one you have to manage some survivor NPCs on the world map. Be sure to have enough food on your reserves, be sure to move them to secure enough tiles, make them fight map monsters that you cannot fight yourself, be sure to heal them with an active clinic and be sure to have enough scrap to convert abandonned building into something useful for your survivors. Also since you're seen as a traitor, you cannot recruit new survivors yourself, you have to send other NPCs to do it.

Also there are lots of other special building on the map you need to find/use/activate in order to progress. Every tile on the map is explained when you press the activate button, just check what the menu says before entering a tile.

Oh, one more thing...every tile you purify makes the game advance one turn, which means : every NPCs do their task, the difficulty of the combat is slightly "upped", the tiles are slightly less safe for NPCs (unless near a "housing"), the world map monster and Demonaica take their turns, and something Demonaica use some world map spells that may harm your survivors or prevent you from purifying some tiles. Also big problem...once a building is destroyed, it cannot be built again...good luck keeping all your useful building standing...

Well...the two games are quite different, yes.
NoSoup4you 11. sep. 2013 kl. 5.30 
I'm new to the series as well, but for what it's worth, I started with 2 and am completely blown away. It's my new favorite game, for now at least. I'm not normally into sidescrollers that aren't Super Mario World, but the strategy half of the game intertwines with the levels nicely and gives them purpose. From what I hear, the first game is a lot less focused, but I'll check it out once I've managed to beat this one (it's hard.)
Sleightblind 12. sep. 2013 kl. 19.48 
Personally, I love action looters and hate strategy games, so 2 basically took everything I liked most about 1 and replaced it with text and boredom. In my opinion, the only thing better about the sceond game is the art, and I liked the art of the first game just fine.
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