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Paragon Mar 25, 2017 @ 6:59pm
Can owned land have its culture flip "away" from you?
Title. If say, you are saxon, and you have a french duke or count owning some of your land that is also saxon, can the land become french? Can it become french if it was something else, like russian?
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runifoc Mar 25, 2017 @ 7:38pm 
Yes, it's called culture conversion and the stewardship level of the county's owner affects how long it takes.
Paragon Mar 25, 2017 @ 8:19pm 
Originally posted by runifoc:
Yes, it's called culture conversion and the stewardship level of the county's owner affects how long it takes.

Thats unfortunate. I'd hate to pick people for leadership positions based on culture and not merit, but it seems I will have to make do.

As for another question, can you force your vassals to change cultures? They have a decision to convert to their liege's (which i've never seen the AI use) and would make life a tad easier, especially with succession screwing things around.
Last edited by Paragon; Mar 25, 2017 @ 8:20pm
Black_Rat Mar 25, 2017 @ 9:11pm 
Originally posted by Paragon:
Originally posted by runifoc:
Yes, it's called culture conversion and the stewardship level of the county's owner affects how long it takes.

Thats unfortunate. I'd hate to pick people for leadership positions based on culture and not merit, but it seems I will have to make do.

As for another question, can you force your vassals to change cultures? They have a decision to convert to their liege's (which i've never seen the AI use) and would make life a tad easier, especially with succession screwing things around.

You can request to educate their heir and there is a chance when you do so they will become your culture. So there is no easy way, but with some effort and time it is possible to switch his familys culture, but not his own.
Paragon Mar 25, 2017 @ 9:24pm 
Originally posted by Black_Rat:
Originally posted by Paragon:

Thats unfortunate. I'd hate to pick people for leadership positions based on culture and not merit, but it seems I will have to make do.

As for another question, can you force your vassals to change cultures? They have a decision to convert to their liege's (which i've never seen the AI use) and would make life a tad easier, especially with succession screwing things around.

You can request to educate their heir and there is a chance when you do so they will become your culture. So there is no easy way, but with some effort and time it is possible to switch his familys culture, but not his own.

Only two at a time though. And with culture checks based on both county and duchy owners, plus the fact that pretty much everyone has Gavelkind, its more than a bit of effort needed.

Its far easier to spy on them and incite a revolt, then crush them and revoke their lands to give to better cultured peers. Though it is ever so slightly more evil.
Last edited by Paragon; Mar 25, 2017 @ 9:25pm
runifoc Mar 25, 2017 @ 9:26pm 
Originally posted by Black_Rat:
Originally posted by Paragon:
As for another question, can you force your vassals to change cultures? They have a decision to convert to their liege's (which i've never seen the AI use) and would make life a tad easier, especially with succession screwing things around.

You can request to educate their heir and there is a chance when you do so they will become your culture. So there is no easy way, but with some effort and time it is possible to switch his familys culture, but not his own.

A guardian with both the Diligent and Gregarious traits has the best chance of changing a ward's culture.
Zsrai Mar 26, 2017 @ 3:38am 
Originally posted by runifoc:
Originally posted by Black_Rat:

You can request to educate their heir and there is a chance when you do so they will become your culture. So there is no easy way, but with some effort and time it is possible to switch his familys culture, but not his own.

A guardian with both the Diligent and Gregarious traits has the best chance of changing a ward's culture.

Or if you have Conclave you can just educate them with the Heritage focus. The traits don't matter in Conclave. In Conclave you can also educate as many children as you want at a time.
Paragon Mar 26, 2017 @ 4:36am 
Originally posted by Zsrai:
Originally posted by runifoc:

A guardian with both the Diligent and Gregarious traits has the best chance of changing a ward's culture.

Or if you have Conclave you can just educate them with the Heritage focus. The traits don't matter in Conclave. In Conclave you can also educate as many children as you want at a time.

Can you? I've only been allowed 2 wards at a time.

Heritage also usually proves more annoying than helpful for me most of the time. The idiot I appointed to duke would have some dirty foreigner educate his child in his dirty foreign ways, so even if he started as my culture, heritage makes them flip away from it. This is only when the AI chooses heritage on its own, and I don't notice in time.

Its also quite a pain in the arse to individually look through children for their culture. With adults you can tell by a quick glance at their clothes, but children must be individually sorted through, then arragements made if they do not conform to my standards. Which is also a pain in the arse.

The fact that gavelkind (which every single ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ vassal seems to use no matter what) makes there even more bloody children to sort through, which MULTIPLIES the pains in arses untill the whole bloody culture flipping micromanagament minigame gets out of hand.

Slightly off topic, but can you demand a succession system of your vassals that is not gavelkind? All gavelkind is good for for the inept AI is splitting duchies into a string of civil wars after every succession and constant "halp I has 2 many baby pls gib clay" popups from vassals.

Reforming the empire into viceroyalties is impossible at this stage. It would be easier to have it collapse and reconquer everything.
Last edited by Paragon; Mar 26, 2017 @ 4:46am
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