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Isildur  [developer] Aug 14, 2020 @ 8:49am
List of Countries with Unique Mission Trees
Last updated 22 Dec 2021

Total mission tree number: 100
This list also shows which mission trees have been contributed by the community

AEngland
Alania
Alsace (contributed)
Altsachsen/Brunswick
Anjou (contributed)
Apulia
Aquitaine
Aragon
Assyria (contributed)
Athens (contributed)
Austria
Baghdad
Barcelona/Catalonia
Bavaria
Berg/Cleves/Julich (contributed)
Bohemia
Nordmark/Brandenburg
Brittany (contributed)
Burgundy
Byzantium
Castile/Leon
Cologne
Commonwealth
Como (contributed)
Cordoba
Cornwall
Cumans (contributed)
Denmark
England
Epirus
Flanders
Florence
Foix
France
Franche Comte (contributed)
Frisian (All tags with Frisian culture) (contributed)
Genoa
Georgia
Great Britain
Hansa (Lubeck/Bremen/Hamburg/Danzig/Riga-Stadt)
Holland (contributed)
Hungary
Ifriqya
Ingria/Izhoria (contributed)
Ireland (contributed)
Karlings (Chiny/Vermandois/Soissons/Francia)
Khazaria/Huns
Kiev
Latin Empire
Lithuania
Lorraine (contributed)
Luxembourg
Mazovia (contributed)
Milan
Monaco (contributed)
Morocco (contributed)
Muscovy (contributed)
Naples (contributed)
Navarra (contributed)
Netherlands (contributed)
Nice (contributed)
Nikaia
Nitra (contributed)
Normandy
Norway
Novgorod
Outremer (Group) (contributed)
Palatinate (contributed)
Papacy
Pfullendorf (contributed)
Piedmont (contributed)
Pisa (contributed)
Poland
Portucale/Portugal
Provence (contributed)
Prussia
Russia (contributed)
Qahira (Fatimids/Mamluks)
Salzburg (contributed)
Sardinia-Piedmont (contributed)
Sardinian (Corsica/Sardinia/Arborea/Logudoro/Gallura/Cagliari) (contributed)
Savoy (contributed)
Saxony (after 1180)/Meissen
Scotland/Alba
Seljuk
Serbia/Rashka (contributed)
Sicily
Siena (contributed)
Spain
Swabia
Sweden
Swiss (All tags with capital in Switzerland)
Iberian Taifa (Group) (contributed)
Teutonic Order/Livonian Order
Toulouse
Trebizond (contributed)
Tuscany
Venice
Volga Bulgaria (contributed)
Worms
Last edited by Isildur; Dec 22, 2021 @ 2:33pm
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BlueArone Aug 5, 2023 @ 4:13pm 
last update was 2 years ago, are there any new ones?
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ShyGuy13  [developer] Mar 23, 2024 @ 11:08am 
Originally posted by BlueArone:
last update was 2 years ago, are there any new ones?
No, why should there be more?
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Admiral Halsey Apr 6, 2024 @ 11:38pm 
Originally posted by ShyGuy13:
No, why should there be more?
I mean the fact the Ottoman's don't have one is kinda glaring in that list. Same with there being no Italian or German tree either for forming them. Hanover also doesn't have a tree. Also maybe some generic culture based missions for nations aimed for to push them towards a cultural formable that has non-generic missions. For example nations of Franconia's culture being given generic missions aimed towards conquering the area and forming Franconia. Though I just realized that nation doesn't have missions either but it's still a good example.
Last edited by Admiral Halsey; Apr 6, 2024 @ 11:41pm
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ShyGuy13  [developer] Apr 9, 2024 @ 2:33am 
Originally posted by Admiral Halsey:
Originally posted by ShyGuy13:
No, why should there be more?
I mean the fact the Ottoman's don't have one is kinda glaring in that list. Same with there being no Italian or German tree either for forming them. Hanover also doesn't have a tree. Also maybe some generic culture based missions for nations aimed for to push them towards a cultural formable that has non-generic missions. For example nations of Franconia's culture being given generic missions aimed towards conquering the area and forming Franconia. Though I just realized that nation doesn't have missions either but it's still a good example.
If nobody makes a mission tree for them, then there obviously can't be a mission tree for said tags. I'm not a wizard.
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Admiral Halsey Apr 10, 2024 @ 10:14pm 
Originally posted by ShyGuy13:
If nobody makes a mission tree for them, then there obviously can't be a mission tree for said tags. I'm not a wizard.
I get that but the question is why aren't you or any of the other devs making them? Like i'm not asking the next update to add a mission tree for every nation down to the most obscure German city state. But adding for example a tree for the Ottoman's so they actually do something in game instead of just sit in Anatolia for a few hundred years unless player controlled would be nice.
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ShyGuy13  [developer] Apr 11, 2024 @ 8:11am 
Originally posted by Admiral Halsey:
Originally posted by ShyGuy13:
If nobody makes a mission tree for them, then there obviously can't be a mission tree for said tags. I'm not a wizard.
I get that but the question is why aren't you or any of the other devs making them? Like i'm not asking the next update to add a mission tree for every nation down to the most obscure German city state. But adding for example a tree for the Ottoman's so they actually do something in game instead of just sit in Anatolia for a few hundred years unless player controlled would be nice.
Why should we devs spend our freetime on making even more mission trees when the mod already has 100 mission trees? There is more about mod development than those damn mission trees. So if nobody else makes a mission tree for a tag not listed above, then said tag won't get a mission tree from us devs most likely. VN has never been a mod targeted on mission trees so our priority for adding new mission trees is very low.
Last edited by ShyGuy13; Apr 11, 2024 @ 8:17am
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Admiral Halsey Apr 11, 2024 @ 3:46pm 
Originally posted by ShyGuy13:
Why should we devs spend our freetime on making even more mission trees when the mod already has 100 mission trees?
Because mission trees are a pretty major part of the game and if you're missing trees for some of the majors that's going to impact game play negatively, especially since mission trees also guide the AI as well. I get the mod isn't about the mission trees but you need them at the least for the AI to do something. Like I said without having a mission tree all the Ottoman's do if not player controlled is just sit in ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Anatolia and do nothing. That's actually really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bad game play wise, especially for those doing the 1444 start date since Ottoman expansion was a major factor in European decisions during the era.

Look as I said no one expects the next update to have a tree for literally every nations down to "the Free city of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Bavaria which existed for 5 days in the 1300's" but making a tree for some of the majors missing them or at the very least the Ottoman's. The nation that should be the games final boss actually you know becomes said boss would be nice.
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ShyGuy13  [developer] Apr 13, 2024 @ 4:35pm 
Originally posted by Admiral Halsey:
Originally posted by ShyGuy13:
Why should we devs spend our freetime on making even more mission trees when the mod already has 100 mission trees?
Because mission trees are a pretty major part of the game and if you're missing trees for some of the majors that's going to impact game play negatively, especially since mission trees also guide the AI as well. I get the mod isn't about the mission trees but you need them at the least for the AI to do something. Like I said without having a mission tree all the Ottoman's do if not player controlled is just sit in ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Anatolia and do nothing. That's actually really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bad game play wise, especially for those doing the 1444 start date since Ottoman expansion was a major factor in European decisions during the era.

Look as I said no one expects the next update to have a tree for literally every nations down to "the Free city of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Bavaria which existed for 5 days in the 1300's" but making a tree for some of the majors missing them or at the very least the Ottoman's. The nation that should be the games final boss actually you know becomes said boss would be nice.
You're underestimating the amount of time you need to make a mission tree, especially for a major nation like the Ottomans. Like I said before, we have different priorities right now than making new mission trees.
As you can see in the list above, several mission trees were contributed in the past. So if you want to get a mission tree for the Ottomans, you will have to contribute it yourself or wait for a contributor to make one.
Last edited by ShyGuy13; Apr 16, 2024 @ 5:28am
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ghostlyvirous89 Dec 18, 2024 @ 7:42am 
How can I submit mission trees to you guys?
#9
ShyGuy13  [developer] Dec 19, 2024 @ 11:53am 
Originally posted by ghostlyvirous89:
How can I submit mission trees to you guys?
Via Discord.
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