Don't Starve Together

Don't Starve Together

Bigby Wolf (Big Bad Wolf)
Taylor  [developer] Dec 17, 2015 @ 11:34am
Bigby's old Huff and Puff ability / Способность Бигби Дунуть-плюнуть
Right now I'm in-process of addition this new ability to Bigby. He can use it in half-wolf form only. It will work similar to Weather Pain (you should mark the targed with right mouse button). Each usage costs Bigby some amount of health. I can't decide about details. Should it be:
- more powerfull but take more health;
- less powerfull with less health taked away.
As for Bigby's logic it should be one powerful breath. However is it the best choice for Don't Starve reality?
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Сейчас я добавляю Бигби эту способность.Он может использовать ее только в форме полу-волка. Она работает схоже с Weather Pain (необходимо отметить цель правой клавишей мыши). Каждое использование тратит часть здоровья Бигби. Я не могу определиться с деталями. Должно ли оно:
- быть более мощным, но снимать больше здоровья;
- быть менее мощным и менее затратным по здоровью.
По логике Бигби это должен быть один мощный выдох. Однако, является ли это оптимальным выбором для мира Don't Starv?
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Taj the King Dec 17, 2015 @ 6:10pm 
Great work so far, by the end this is going to be fatass must-have mod! Bigby is an awesome character, as the kid's story goes he could blow the building's with one huge blow. However, according to the story, as the material of house got better, it was harder for bigby to blow away and bigby got angrier each time.

So, my suggestion is, for every time Bigby would use his ability, he should pay the appropriate cost:
- Blowing small creatures, like bees, should be easy as hell.
- Blowing pigs, merms, spiders, hounds and tallbirds should take a normal toll on bigyby.
- All clockworks and koalaphent size beings should take considerable cost and have 50% chance to not be blown away.
- Giants should be unaffected, .

Also, instead of losing health:
- He should lose hunger points since he would tire.
- If attempt fails, let him lose random sanity points in addition to hungerloss.

The Huff n' puff should also be used on other things like, tall grass, saplings, trees (depending on size and type maybe?) to get their drops, in addition, the power of the blows can depend on his form? like in human state he can blow grass and get grass but in half-wolf he can get the tallgrass plant item too and for trees destroy the stump and get wood.

I would also like the huff n' puff to work on structures like:
- Pig and Merm houses.
- Walls of Grass, wood, and stone, attempting to blow higher tiers result in failure.
- burning stuff like trees to stop them from incinerating.
- Siesta huts, and tents, fires (pvp purposes)

A few more suggestions:
- Bigby being the BIG BAD WOLF should be King of wolves and able to tame hounds?
- Bigby while in non/semi-human form should be able to consume bones to regain sanity.
- Pigs, be afraid of Bigby when he is in wolf form

btw, I tried making a pet collin with flower petals and raw meat, collin hit me smack in the face.
I love you'r work, man and I would love to see more bigby forms if possible. Thanks for reading.
Last edited by Taj the King; Dec 18, 2015 @ 6:26am
I agree with Taj the King and I have a few suggestions of my own.

- Since Bigby is the big bad wolf and wolves have amazing senses, he should be able to detect if enemies are nearby

- Also since I think Bigby is a werewolf (I could be mistaken) he could either turn into his wolf form or be extreamly strong and fast on a full moon.

This was the first mod I ever tried and I had way to much fun and I can't wait til the next update. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
Taylor  [developer] Dec 18, 2015 @ 12:05am 
Taj the King , in comic series Bigby once told someone that now he's got much stronger and could have easily blew away even fullstone house of pigs.
Currently it's really herd to use it on mondter (by the way bees are quite powerfull monsters in DST, especialy if there are several bees, and they are tumbling in such a fun way when Wolf using Huff and Puff on them). Pig's house is easyly ruined from the first blow if you're staying in fron of it.
"tall grass, saplings, trees" and even stone, all structures and pvp on non-pvp servers - all can be affected. And yes it is usefull on burning objects.
I thought of losing hunger points but he's losing enough of them just being in wolf form (3 times faster then in human form). The question is how much should he lose.
As for human form usage. I was told that Bigby never used Huff and Puff in human form in comic series and the game. Looks like he couldn't.
As for hounds, I have better idea for them, but I leave it till Snow White mod.
"bones to regain sanity", come on, he's not a dog for bones)) he'll got cigarettes for that purpose.
Bigby was forbidden to show him self on the Farm in any form.

"I tried making a pet collin with flower petals and raw meat, collin hit me smack in the face." - it's not so easy to make a friends with some one who afraid you till hate :)
Last edited by Taylor; Dec 18, 2015 @ 12:07am
Taylor  [developer] Dec 18, 2015 @ 12:20am 
Dr Pepper Goddess , I'm really glad to know that you're decide to use this mod while never used any before. And I really glad you have fun :)

"Since Bigby is the big bad wolf and wolves have amazing senses, he should be able to detect if enemies are nearby". In fact even Wilson can sence the enemies. It's good idea from you. I just can't imagine how to enhance this ability for Bigby. But if I ever find some way I'll try to realize this.

"Also since I think Bigby is a werewolf (I could be mistaken) he could either turn into his wolf form or be extreamly strong and fast on a full moon." If to be shure he is a wolf who become werehuman :) And he has full controll on his were-process and can stop it on any stage, according wiki (that's what I had to violate for don't starve reality, I can't give him full control of turnig wolf and back again human). So full moon has no influence on him.
Taj the King Dec 18, 2015 @ 7:05am 
Taylor , I like the idea of a stronger and powerful Bigby! You can simply leave the hunger point loss for huff n' puff configurable, by doing so you will allow people to experiment and find their own "Sweet spot" on the power. Also, you make limitations to this configuration by adding a min and max to the amount of hunger loss, example: 5-25 points

Bigby actually IS a big wolf, he uses a magical powder/make up called "Glamour" to become human, just like all of the fairy tale characters. While Bigby does have control on his form, he cannot return to human state without glamour, this gave me a few new ideas... I agree, ever since Bigby became sherif, and got incharge of "glamour-control" he would given up the chewing bones thing, therefor cigarettes are a awesome idea, I would be more comfortable if...

Cigarette:
- gave passive sanity increase at cost of health points, because cigarette = cancer :P
- 5 cigarrete =>1 cigar => boss, basically sanity increase x3 for same duration and hp loss.

New item Glamour:
- Bigby (and Snow white) will spawn with 1 of these
- Upon using Glamour, Bigby (and Snow white) return to their "human/normal" form
- Glamour gives a few days of human form afterwhich Bigby will begin to revert to his true form
- Multiple uses of glamour can stack human form time to max 5 days
- Glamour gives instant sanity restoration
- Crafted using Alchemy machine

Suggested Glamour Recipe:
- 4x Flower petals
- 2x (Raw) Berries
- 1x Red, Green and Blue Mushrooms.
- (Potential ingrediants?) Glommer goop, Wet goop and tentacle spots and honey.

New Glamour oriented form system:
- Bigby, in his normal form will be able to turn in wolf anytime but not turn back into human without Glamour
- Different stages of reversion will have different levels of sanity and hunger drain.
- As the reverse transformation progresses, Bigby will become, faster, hit stronger, become cold resistant and do better Huff N' Puffs.
- At last stage, Bigby will be slightly bigger then human form and be complete wolf, sanity drain will be highest, hunger drain also increases.
- At last stage, Bigby attacks will replenish hunger (& HP?).

The reason why I think Bigby should lose sanity while in wolf form is because he is supposed to be Sheriff and make other people obey law and use Glamour, often as well as use himself.
Fear of being seen as wolf without any valid reason can get him in trouble.

Imagining and suggesting is easier then coding and making, I can only do the first two :P
I have a few ideas that can help you achieve the above.
You can uses woodie's codes as base, and rewrite the log metre.
Check out these two mods:
- Wortox demon KING
- Geralt
Hopefully, you will be able to do this, Love you'r work and attitude. Thanks for reading.
Last edited by Taj the King; Dec 18, 2015 @ 7:08am
Taylor  [developer] Dec 18, 2015 @ 8:40am 
Taj the King, wait a minute :) Bigby is wolf, oh yes he is. But he could turn human initially because his father North Wind had human form. For the same reason Bigby could fly (like his children could fly, turn human and wolf and something in the middle). But he was never learned to do both of this when he was a child. He want always be only in wolf form. And when he grow up he lost his change to learn how to do it. This is his father's words.

While Snow White cut Bigby with Lycan knife to turn him into human. So Bigby was never used glamours :)

"gave passive sanity increase at cost of health points, because cigarette = cancer" - fables have no problem with mundy deceases. Snow White even survived after damn bullet shutted in her head. And Bigby digested rocks sewn in his stomach by Woodie. I think he have enough regeneration to not think about cancer.

5 cigarrete =>1 cigar is not bad idea. Maybe I even implement it when finish other updates.

And again, Snow White also need no glamour. Only non-human looking fables need it. And only witches could craft it.

I'm really, really-really like your explanation:
"The reason why I think Bigby should lose sanity while in wolf form is because he is supposed to be Sheriff and make other people obey law and use Glamour, often as well as use himself.
Fear of being seen as wolf without any valid reason can get him in trouble."

But in addition to other explanations - he's not a Sheriff anymore. When Bigby left Beast become new Sheriff. However if Snow White decide to join Bigby in don't starve world... Well, she is the one he afraid to show his wolf-side more than anyone else... While after her 6 wolves-children I guess she explane him that it's OK for her.

After all I do planning to make him lose his sanity. But in human form. It's not easy to stay human being alone in the middle of nowhere. That's why he needs cigarettes.

Anyway, thanks for your attention and sugesstions.
eclipse Dec 25, 2015 @ 11:31am 
I think that it should drain hunger instead of health, I mean, it's not like Bigby injured himself when we saw him use it in The Wolf Among Us game.
Taylor  [developer] Dec 25, 2015 @ 11:52am 
CSn| Shia LaBeouf. I also thought about hunger drain... but I don't know... he has quite strong hunger drain... should I add another one? Using The Wolf Among Us game's logic I guess you're right... I'll wait for someone else tell what he thinks about it...
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