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Kalan Aug 24, 2014 @ 9:28pm
ULX Merging integration
I would really like for ULX and this to work together as a team, if both addons are installed.
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Neffelian  [developer] Aug 25, 2014 @ 5:04am 
How would that work? I.e. what would I have to change to make Vermilion more cooperative?

Anyhow, Vermilion and ULX both have their own permissions systems, and wouldn't managing them together would be making things more difficult?

(I'm not saying no, I'm honestly not sure at what level the integration should take place.)
Kalan Aug 25, 2014 @ 4:23pm 
Well I thought since ulx and Vermilion have two different ranking systems, how about the config ranks merge together so both have that certain rank.
Neffelian  [developer] Aug 26, 2014 @ 4:26am 
Oh. I can definitely make Vermilion override the ULX permission system, however there are three drawbacks to this system:

1. Vermilion and ULX both use different permission formats. For example, ULX may use "Can Noclip" as a permission to allow players to noclip, but Vermilion would use "noclip" as a permission, thus a translation dictionary would have to be made; bringing me on to problem two.
2. I could only support permissions for the base ULX, not any extensions for it. This would be because I would have to create a hard-coded conversion between the two permissions systems.
3. I could only do it one way, by making ULX ask Vermilion for permissions, so you would have to use Vermilion to control the ULX permissions system.
Kalan Sep 7, 2014 @ 6:23pm 
I just want an ability to have ulx and Vermilion sync rank data between each other to be one big rank thing.
Neffelian  [developer] Sep 8, 2014 @ 8:18am 
I could only reliably make it so that Vermilion dictates the ranks to ULX instead of ULX and Vermilion sharing ranks both ways. This is because the methods that we use to store, check for and assign permissions are so completely different.

If you don't have a problem with it, I can always make it so that Vermilion will take over permissions handling for ULX.
happyman0073 Oct 6, 2014 @ 10:46am 
but woult ulx and vermilion both work at the same time if i just ignore the perms of one of them?
Neffelian  [developer] Oct 6, 2014 @ 10:48am 
I don't know, I haven't tested it. If it doesn't work it will have to wait; it isn't my top priority.
happyman0073 Oct 6, 2014 @ 11:11am 
Ok, thanks. Also: it may be a stupid question but does ulx have features your addon doesn't have? I mean, there are a lot of plugins for ulx but i didn't find any plugins that provide e.g. the zone feature. Sorry if my questions are annoying or someting but i'm thinking about using this addon instead of ulx (wich would mean quiete a lot of work). Is it possible to restrict e.g. Adv. Dupe Uploading with Vermilion?
Neffelian  [developer] Oct 6, 2014 @ 11:13am 
I don't know what you mean about the ULX plugins, I have never used ULX before, so I don't understand. The Adv Dupe uploading restriction is planned in the future.
happyman0073 Oct 6, 2014 @ 11:24am 
Oh, ok, still thanks :)
Перри Oct 6, 2014 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by Ned:
I don't know what you mean about the ULX plugins, I have never used ULX before, so I don't understand. The Adv Dupe uploading restriction is planned in the future.
ULX and ULib are diferent. I think ULib is the Permission System and ULX is the overlay. :D Just to say :D
happyman0073 Oct 7, 2014 @ 9:14am 
@Dora the Explorer are you experienced with ULX? Do you know how to restrict Adv Dupe Uplaods there?
marZiAlt Oct 7, 2014 @ 11:45pm 
YOu are both wrong ULib is the base ULX just add the admins function.

Also will this mod work woth DarkRP? And or even be able to restrict loadout and toolgun options?
Neffelian  [developer] Oct 7, 2014 @ 11:51pm 
Originally posted by >oG MarZ:
YOu are both wrong ULib is the base ULX just add the admins function.

Also will this mod work woth DarkRP? And or even be able to restrict loadout and toolgun options?

It should work, however I am planning to add DarkRP to the automatic configuration module so Vermilion can adapt its own settings to match the game mode (ie disable godmode, unlimited ammo ect). And yes, you can edit loadouts, and you can restrict toolgun tools.
marZiAlt Oct 7, 2014 @ 11:55pm 
Ah. This will likely replace ULX on my server. Also does it use ply:isUsergroup()
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