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BOB, the Tree and Prop Replacer 1.0.1
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Deselminator Feb 8, 2023 @ 5:57pm
Prop replacement on roads reverting after loading game
About a week ago I noticed an issue with some prop replacements on roads reverting after exiting the game and loading a save. I've included a link to some screenshots to help explain what's going on.

Screenshots [photos.app.goo.gl]

You can see in the the first screenshot, the stop sign I'm trying to replace has the numbers 11 next to it.

In the second screenshot, the stop sign 11 has been replaced successfully.

The third screenshot is after exiting the game and loading the save. The replaced stop sign now shows 01 next to it rather than 11, and the stop sign appears as vanilla.

In the fourth screenshot, you can see the stop sign numbered 11 is back to the vanilla version according to BOB.

The final screenshot shows a successful replacement of the same stop sign on the same road type numbered 00. This one does not revert back when exiting the game and reloading.

I've had this happen with stop signs and stop lights on various roads. Some of the changes stick, some don't. Any idea what's going on? The issues were not happening prior to a week or so ago. I have not added or removed any mods recently.
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algernon  [developer] Feb 19, 2023 @ 2:07pm 
Please repeat your steps - replacing the index 11 top sign, saving, exit the game, reload the save - and post your output log from that point. Also post your BOB config file that you're using.
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Deselminator Feb 19, 2023 @ 8:32pm 
Here you go:

output_log[ufile.io]
BOB-config[ufile.io]

Thank you!
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algernon  [developer] Feb 20, 2023 @ 2:55am 
Alright, the first thing is to sort out your mess of a mod collection. You need to unsubscribe from all your abandoned and broken mods. Have you looked at your Compatibility Report output?
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Deselminator Feb 20, 2023 @ 11:47am 
I spent some time cleaning up my mods. It's still not perfect, but definitely a huge improvement. You're right that it was a mess; however, I'd be surprised if it's a mod issue since my mods were the same before and after the problem began to happen. In any case, here are the updated files you requested after the mod cleanup. I once again replaced the index 11 sign, saved, exited the game, and reloaded before posting the output_log as previously instructed.

output_log[ufile.io]
BOB-config[ufile.io]

Let me know if there's anything else you need. Thanks again for your help!
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Deselminator Feb 20, 2023 @ 11:50am 
I should also point out that I did confirm the issue has persisted after the mod cleanup
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algernon  [developer] Feb 20, 2023 @ 2:41pm 
Your cleanup still hasn't removed the mods that stop BOB from working properly, like Prop It Up.
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Deselminator Feb 20, 2023 @ 10:25pm 
Prop it Up is gone instead of disabled. Repeated the steps and the issue still persists. Sorry for all the trouble with this. Here are the files again post removal of Prop it Up. I don't see any other BOB conflicting mods (except Network Skins) according to the compatibility report.

output_log[ufile.io]
BOB-config[ufile.io]

I'll definitely have to get you a ko-fi for all your help :)
Last edited by Deselminator; Feb 20, 2023 @ 10:26pm
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algernon  [developer] Feb 20, 2023 @ 10:36pm 
Better :) Does removing Network Skins do anything?
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Deselminator Feb 22, 2023 @ 7:15am 
That was actually one of the first things I tried when doing my initial troubleshooting, and it did not seem to resolve the issue.
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algernon  [developer] Feb 22, 2023 @ 2:43pm 
Very strange, and I'm not able to reproduce it at my end, which suggests that the issue is only with your system.

Have you tried unsubbing (or excluding with LOM) all mods except BOB, Harmony, and Loading Screen mod, starting a new test map, and seeing if the problem reoccurs?
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Deselminator Feb 25, 2023 @ 8:35pm 
I have not tried that yet, but I have been trying to narrow down specifically when the changes stick vs. when they don't. I'll keep you posted if I'm able to get any more concrete information.
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LiberCas Mar 2, 2023 @ 10:50am 
Hey @algernon, just thought I'd let you know, @Deselminator is not the only one with this problem. This week, a bunch of the BOB replacements I'd done on my Save suddently un-did themselves when I loaded it. If I redo them, exit the game, and then load again, the same tging happens. Weirdly this problem happens to most, but not all of my BOB changes and just like @Deselminator mostly in roads though there's one prop removal in a building that is also affected.

I also heavily suspect the issue is with some recent update to Skylines that made BOB suddenly incompatible as the mods I'm using are the same I was using last week, and last week everything worked fine.

Anyways, just thought I'd let you know, cheers!
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algernon  [developer] Mar 2, 2023 @ 2:04pm 
@LiberCas There's been no recent update to Skylines, so no. Also, "me too" comments without attached logs really don't add any value. If you are having the same issue, please post your logs so that I can see what commonality there is (it's looking like a previously unknown mod conflict at the moment).
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Rafario Apr 6, 2023 @ 1:50pm 
I'm having this issue too.
I recently started playing the game again after spending some time after the transport and hubs update without playing the game. I started a new city fresh, only installing mods that were verified as compatible.

My means of saving the game are Local Autosave and manual cloud save.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574736064170688513/1093631443923644537/output_log.txt
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574736064170688513/1093631444666044447/BOB-config.xml
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574736064170688513/1093631444972212314/BOB-settings.xml

Here is the output logs of the session that Replaced the example prop

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574736064170688513/1093632843567083701/output_log.txt
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574736064170688513/1093632844586291290/BOB-config.xml
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574736064170688513/1093632845190287371/BOB-settings.xml
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Rafario Apr 6, 2023 @ 2:08pm 
This issue doesn't happen on my laptop. (same save, no local mods on both computers)

I did the exact same thing on it, replaced traffic light props in one session, closed the game, opened it again. It loaded the save game with the props properly replaced. However on it, I have to replace it twice as the first time I click on apply, it.. doesn't... apply. (check video footage: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574736064170688513/1093638679840428043/2023-04-06_17-31-24.mp4)

Here are the logs of the laptop footage, showing the having to replace the same prop twice.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574736064170688513/1093636065941799014/output_log.txt
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574736064170688513/1093636066814197871/BOB-config.xml
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574736064170688513/1093636069766996079/BOB-settings.xml


Logs from the laptop session that loaded the savegame after the previous one replacing the props

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574736064170688513/1093638335337091152/output_log.txt
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574736064170688513/1093638336029134938/BOB-config.xml
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574736064170688513/1093638337480380476/BOB-settings.xml
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