ATLAS
IndiamanShip v1.2.4 (NOT WORKING)
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Tino  [developer] Feb 11, 2019 @ 10:14am
Ship speed and maneuverability
Hi guys. I would like to say a few words about the whole topic. We have used the same values ​​as the Galleon for this ship, which is smaller than a Galleon but just as heavy. Unfortunately, the ship was slower anyway. Actually, that should not be so.

It's hard to find the right screws to turn on.

We have an experimental build that is just for us developers to test. I cooked and tested the mod 4 times today. After my last test, the ship was much faster and more agile.

We have also found that there are good values ​​for some. Others want to have the ship as a speedboat and complain only. The ship will certainly NOT be a speedboat.

We are open to criticism. We are also open for suggestions. But stimuli and exaggerated ideas do not fit together.

Thanks also to those who appreciate our work. Unfortunately, there are always those who do the same everything bad because it does not work as exaggerated as they would like.

Thank you for your support. We appreciate that. It motivates us to continue our free time in the project.

Sorry for my terrible English. It comes exclusively from google Translate. ;)


In German:

Hallo Jungs. Ich möchte mal einige Worte zu dem ganzen Thema sagen. Wir haben für dieses Schiff, was kleiner als eine Galleon aber genau so schwer ist, die gleichen Werte wie die Galleon benutzt. Leider war das Schiff trotzdem langsamer. Eigentlich dürfte das nicht so sein.

Es ist schwer die richtigen Schrauben zu finden an denen man drehen muss.

Wir haben einen Experimental Build der nur für uns Entwickler zum Testen ist. Ich habe heute den Mod 4 mal gekocht und getestet. Nach meinem letzten Test war das Schiff deutlich schneller und wendiger.

Wir haben auch festgestellt das es für einige gute Werte sind. Andere aber wollen das Schiff gerne als Speedboat haben und meckern nur. Das Schiff wird sicherlich KEIN Speedboat.

Wir sind für Kritik offen. Wir sind auch für Anregungen offen. Aber Anregeungen und übertriebene Vorstellungen passen nicht zusammen.

Danke auch an diejenigen die unsere Arbeit zu schätzen wissen. Leider gibt es auch immer diejenigen die gleich alles schlecht machen weil es nicht so übertrieben funktioniert wie sie es gerne hätten.

Danke für eure Unterstüzung. Wir wissen das zu schätzen. Es Motiviert uns weiter unsere Freizeit in das Projekt zu stecken.

En Français:

Salut ! J'aimerais dire quelques mot à propos de ce sujet. Nous avions utilisé les même valeurs que le galion pour l'Indiaman, même si ce dernier est plus petit. Malheureusement, le navire était toujours aussi lent... Désormais, cela ne devrait plus être le cas !

Ca a été très dure de trouver les bons réglages.

Nous avons un build experimental qui est exclusivement pour nous, les développeurs, afin de tester le mod. J'ai compilé et tester le mod 4 fois aujourd'hui ! Après mon dernier teste, le navire est devenue bien plus rapide et maniable !

Nous avons également trouver les bonnes valeur à rentrer afin d'obtenir ce résultat. Certains veulent que le navire devienne un bateau à moteur, mais non, il ne le sera jamais !

Nous sommes ouvert aux critiques constructives (seulement) ainsi qu'aux suggestions. Mais les idées étranges et exagérés ne nous intéresse pas.

Un grand merci à ceux qui nous soutienne et apprécie notre travail. Cela nous motive à continuer ce mod pendant notre temps libre !
Last edited by Tino; Feb 11, 2019 @ 10:47am
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TaliHazard Feb 11, 2019 @ 10:18am 
keep it up, you guys are working your butt off to try to please everybody, can't wait to see the finished product!
Erwaaaaan  [developer] Feb 11, 2019 @ 10:47am 
Thank you :)
-=|SINBAD|=- Feb 11, 2019 @ 11:21am 
Just wanted to say that this last speed and turning adjustment is perfect and feels very realistic.
Tino  [developer] Feb 11, 2019 @ 11:29am 
Is better Now??
Erwaaaaan  [developer] Feb 11, 2019 @ 11:37am 
@Mario, glad to hear it :)
-=|SINBAD|=- Feb 11, 2019 @ 11:44am 
I haven't gotten to do a side by side comparison with a brig and galleon (racing them side by side), but I know it's faster and turns better than it did before and feels reasonable/realistic.
TaliHazard Feb 11, 2019 @ 11:46am 
i posted in the other one by accident, the speed is perfect, but the handling is still off, it takes a really long time to turn still, good progress tho
Tino  [developer] Feb 11, 2019 @ 11:46am 
Originally posted by -=|MARIO|=-:
I haven't gotten to do a side by side comparison with a brig and galleon (racing them side by side), but I know it's faster and turns better than it did before and feels reasonable/realistic.

Then I am relieved. The thing has robbed me of the last nerve. ;)
-=|SINBAD|=- Feb 11, 2019 @ 11:48am 
Originally posted by Tali'Zorah nar Rayya:
i posted in the other one by accident, the speed is perfect, but the handling is still off, it takes a really long time to turn still, good progress tho

I'm using 4 large speed sails and 1 medium speed sail. At full sail, it's hard to turn (still turns easier than the galleon with 6 speed sails), but if I drop to 1/4 sail it turns pretty close to the brig using the same method. Are you not experiencing the same?

-Edited to also say-
I think this ship should be have the same speed as the schooner with 1 large and 1 small speed sails or the 6 large speed sail galleon. However, I don't want to see it out turn the schooner. I think it should turn like the brig.
Last edited by -=|SINBAD|=-; Feb 11, 2019 @ 11:52am
Tino  [developer] Feb 11, 2019 @ 11:49am 
Originally posted by Tali'Zorah nar Rayya:
i posted in the other one by accident, the speed is perfect, but the handling is still off, it takes a really long time to turn still, good progress tho

The handling should be much better. The problem is that everyone has a different feeling as it should be. But do not forget. The ship weight as well as the Galleon. So it can not turn as fast as a schooner or brig. The original class in real: Indiaman Galeon
Tino  [developer] Feb 11, 2019 @ 11:55am 
We can not adapt it to every sail configuration. That does not work. Everyone has different sails or a different amount of sails. I have now adjusted the values based on 3 Speed and a handling sail. And not like Tali in the picture at 5 Speed and 5 Handling.
-=|SINBAD|=- Feb 11, 2019 @ 11:56am 
Originally posted by Tino / Atlas Plus Mod:
Originally posted by Tali'Zorah nar Rayya:
i posted in the other one by accident, the speed is perfect, but the handling is still off, it takes a really long time to turn still, good progress tho

The handling should be much better. The problem is that everyone has a different feeling as it should be. But do not forget. The ship weight as well as the Galleon. So it can not turn as fast as a schooner or brig. The original class in real: Indiaman Galeon

Exactly right. These big ships like the brig, galleon, and now the indiaman should be the fastest ships when traveling in a straight line, but the smaller ships should be able to beat them in turning and agility.
TaliHazard Feb 11, 2019 @ 12:02pm 
yeah the added sails do not really seem to matter much, i will drop down the amount i have on it, was trying to tweak the handling and such using extra sails
-=|SINBAD|=- Feb 11, 2019 @ 12:04pm 
Originally posted by Tino / Atlas Plus Mod:
We can not adapt it to every sail configuration. That does not work. Everyone has different sails or a different amount of sails. I have now adjusted the values based on 3 Speed and a handling sail. And not like Tali in the picture at 5 Speed and 5 Handling.

That's why I think you guys have the perfect balance with this last change. It makes the indiaman possibly the best all-around ship, but doesn't make the other ships obsolete. The galleon still has the role of being a ship of the line and the huge cannon payload. The brig still might have the edge in a little better turning (but not better by much) and is cheaper to build in exchange for a less carry weight. The indiman now makes the brig into a proper medium size ship and feels like more of an upgrade from the schooner.

I'm very pleased with this indiaman and I'm having a blast sailing it right now!
Rex Feb 11, 2019 @ 12:19pm 
i personally think this ship should be closer to a brig in speed and handling
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