Steam-fællesskab :: AViciousBietFreeAction

Level 1 Goblin (Very Small) 22. dec. 2024 kl. 11:23

honestly her upgraded bind damage isn't as useful as the bonus dodge- partially bc it lets me lock down destructing automatons without risking them exploding, also bc I haven't seen her take more than 2 damage for a while. Plus, impact frame on her smg means she can do 4 or 5 subdue damage

zin 1. apr. 2023 kl. 6:11

‘Biet’

*Maniacal Laughter* 25. mar. 2022 kl. 1:54

Bruh, thank you for making this mod. I had the same amount of use before and it seemed like the move would have been a perfect thing to combo with pull and bind if it wasn't for the move endign your turn

Kendov 24. maj 2021 kl. 13:25

@jazmatician one of the reasons I switched around a bunch of abilities of the characters, such as Zephyr's Pressure Point moved to Deputy in exchange for Parry so it's on the same level as Lockdown - making the choice between a defensiv and offensive ability, to ward against damage or to attack those who get close. Some trees are quite wonky in their ability distribution.

Simenvh 9. apr. 2021 kl. 17:00

does it work mid campaign

Nuclear Kangaroo 20. dec. 2020 kl. 17:20

wow, this absolutely shouldve been in the base game, thanks for the mod bro, you actually made the skill useful

Nor Dogroth 10. dec. 2020 kl. 14:46

I used the ability once in my first campaign, just like you. So I will try it out, thanks for that!

jazmatician 10. juni 2020 kl. 7:28

I wonder if the balance team ever played this game all the way through. This "ultimate" is weaker than the skill she gets as a cadet. I wonder if they are flipped and "bind" was supposed to be the ultimate or something.

JimmyTheCannon 19. maj 2020 kl. 17:59

Oof. Okay then I see the reason for this mod.

chair5768 [ophavsmand] 19. maj 2020 kl. 17:59

@JimmyTheCannon Vanilla, it ends your turn

JimmyTheCannon 19. maj 2020 kl. 17:56

I mean, that depends on your gun, but that's a fair point.

Does Bite end the turn, or can you use it and then also shoot?

chair5768 [ophavsmand] 19. maj 2020 kl. 17:54

@JimmyTheCannon But you could still just shoot the enemy, with a higher chance to hit, and an upgraded gun would do more damage.

JimmyTheCannon 19. maj 2020 kl. 17:45

Without having gotten to that point with Torque, the reason to use Bite instead of Bind is it doesn't lock Torque up and lets other teammates attack that enemy.

Is that *always* the best choice? No. But sometimes it is.

Zrin 11. maj 2020 kl. 2:11

Explaining WHY you think it should be a certain way is a fantastic approach to the mod. It basically sealed my choice of downloading it. Great work!

juliejayne 10. maj 2020 kl. 1:35

Nice improvement. I have used Bite, but it is a rare situation.

pepoluan 9. maj 2020 kl. 8:15

Ahh, thanks for the explanation!

chair5768 [ophavsmand] 9. maj 2020 kl. 6:25

@pepoluan Free, like items but it removes the move-attack action so if you want to move and attack then that's still an action, 1 for the move, 0 for the attack.

pepoluan 9. maj 2020 kl. 2:30

I'm a bit confused; does this mod actually make the bite truly free (like grenades), or just costing 1 action point (like shooting with Reflex Grip)?

LUDY 4. maj 2020 kl. 20:01

@chair5768：You're welcome, I always like xcom's viper, it's so beautiful

chair5768 [ophavsmand] 4. maj 2020 kl. 19:47

@等待的守护者: Oops the description got deleted at some point. This changes Torque's "Vicious Bite" ability to be a free action. I'll reset the description now, thank-you for pointing it out to me.

LUDY 4. maj 2020 kl. 19:33

Sorry, I can't see the description of this mod, did she add bite?

Elder 4. maj 2020 kl. 11:03

Personally i feel her end ability is underwhelming. Could really do with a buff, especially considering the low poison damage

LordLancelot 3. maj 2020 kl. 3:10

My bite to hit % is very low, did not succeed once in many try. my last try was at below 50%.
My first time playing with a max level torque.

Paul 3. maj 2020 kl. 2:50

@chair5768 No worries. I totally understand.

Thanks for all the responses! Great work!

chair5768 [ophavsmand] 3. maj 2020 kl. 1:14

@Crimson Flare No, if there were some sort of consensus as to what people want the balance to be I'd be happy to make another mod for a nerfed version of the bite but as it is people's opinions are all over the place and personally I'm happy enough with how it is.

Paul 3. maj 2020 kl. 1:00

@chair5768 Ah... gotcha.

Do you have any plans to do that?

chair5768 [ophavsmand] 3. maj 2020 kl. 0:53

@Crimson Flare Through scripts yes, through the ini files no.

Paul 3. maj 2020 kl. 0:30

@chair5768 Is there a way to make Vicious Bite a guaranteed hit (100%)?

Paul 2. maj 2020 kl. 23:50

@chair5768 Thanks for the XComGameData_SoldierSkills.ini directory!

chair5768 [ophavsmand] 2. maj 2020 kl. 23:42

If you want to alter the damage or cooldown, you can do so in:
"...\Documents\My Games\XCOM Chimera Squad\XComGame\Config\XComGameData_SoldierSkills.ini"

Paul 2. maj 2020 kl. 23:27

@frzn Where do you find the soldier skills ini? I've been looking all over for it.

Paul 2. maj 2020 kl. 22:47

@Anderson I really like this suggestion. A high damage attack that cannot miss and causes enemies to be poisoned but with a decent cooldown sounds good.

I mean, it IS Torque's "ultimate" skill...

Anderson 2. maj 2020 kl. 7:41

I think best balance would be autohit that does, say, 8 damage with poison. And maybe 2 turn cooldown? Considering how OP some of the other abilities are (Puppeteer, Ghost, Faceoff), this seems like a useful tool in Torque's arsenal.

T00much 2. maj 2020 kl. 2:13

@chair5768 sure, the upgraded bind. It is a skill choice for a reason.

Effusion 2. maj 2020 kl. 0:24

You can change the damage in the soldier skills .ini if you feel that 5 points is too much for a free action (I dropped the damage to 2 and gave it 1 point of shred)

chair5768 [ophavsmand] 1. maj 2020 kl. 2:42

Discovered an unintended side effect of making this a free action. To correct this I changed the targeting so you can't move and attack. You now have to manually use a blue move to get next to a target if you wish to move and attack with Vicious Bite

chair5768 [ophavsmand] 1. maj 2020 kl. 2:31

@( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Always hitting would still make it not worth using. Upgraded 'Bind' already does the same damage '5' and already always hits but also disables the target and has no cooldown.

T00much 1. maj 2020 kl. 2:06

While I agree the skill is horrible vanilla, I think a better balance would be to make it always hit, not a free action. What you made is grossly overpowered, giving you a potential 10 points of dmg, poision and heavy cc in one turn.

CabooseRed 30. apr. 2020 kl. 20:48

Thank you so much for this, was literally just complaining about it!

Astronimo 30. apr. 2020 kl. 8:15

I think, a bit higher damage plus healing would be more effective even than free action.

Hellmaker 29. apr. 2020 kl. 22:41

Something really needed, it is funny how Torque's final ability is worse than simply shooting, and it somehow has a cooldown.

Either they forgot to tune it correctly, or it is this bad due to the rest of her kit being amazing.

Thank you for making a Snek better.

Faleap 29. apr. 2020 kl. 19:55

I agree with the single charge school of thought, a free action on a recharge makes this waaay too op an an already powerful unit.

TheBoredGal 29. apr. 2020 kl. 19:22

Always thought vicious bite was hot trash, thanks man

Mardraced 29. apr. 2020 kl. 13:23

Seen a few people say it's a bit op for various reasons, so i figure, why not instead of it being a free action, make it so that you can get a free bind after using it like you can with tongue pull if it hits? That way, it becomes more viable to use, but still has some risk to using it.

JennyHime 29. apr. 2020 kl. 12:19

I think if it was a single use free action it would be great, 5+2 damage is really powerful on a free action, and it's not like anyone used the ability before. Having it every 3 turns seems too powerful, plus it makes her "ultimate" fall in line with other ultimate's like Verge's.

chair5768 [ophavsmand] 29. apr. 2020 kl. 11:35

@Dusky is there anything in particular you can do to cause a crash? I haven't had this problem and would need to replicate it.

Dusky 29. apr. 2020 kl. 10:26

Installed this mid-campaign and it caused frequent crashes, disabling it stopped the crashes.
Haven't tested with a fresh campaign yet

Ixidron 29. apr. 2020 kl. 10:13

I think vicious bite is in an akward position. You can tongue-pull, spit and bind for a 10 damage burst+disable on a single target. I think adding the 5 damage from bite is way too op, but then again, you'd never use the bite otherwise.

Dusky 29. apr. 2020 kl. 9:08

This is great! I never used the bite because it was literally never worth it. Thanks a lot :D

LGear 29. apr. 2020 kl. 6:24

@ChaoZ

I've found Verge's Smash ability useful for when I have an Aggressive target that can't be taken down with all my firepower but one I also need to not shoot/cast abilities during the breach. Saved my bacon a lot of times especially in the late game.

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