So far, still works with 4.0

Hi pls fix building platform abuse limit on planets because you can build defense stations via mega building menu on 1 planet the amount you need

Is there any plans to bring this mod up to date for 3.10.x?

PL whan u can update this mod its the best i have ever seen ;]

I was messing around with this mod with several other mods installed, and I have yet to see any issues, still works with 3.3

This might be mod compatibles problem or corrupted vanilla files, I have tested this mod with vanilla environment and found no issues so far.

hello, i cannot place these things anywhere. there is no option to :( could you please update to 3.3?

I suggest contacting Discord or VKONTAKTE, communication will be more convenient for me, and the balance, the T1 platform is a limit on 1 space base construction speed 120. the T2 platform is a limit on the space base 2 construction speed 240. the T3 platform is a limit on the space base 4 construction speed 480 + for this, to make the creation of bonuses / discounts working on the T2/T3 platform

Helping with localization is always welcome, but I do wonder what "error log" does my mod spew out, I know there are some big and small changes of the game but I haven't have much time to play the game or do any meaningful modding.
As for balancing this mod...maybe you could list some parts that you think need to change.

hi, I have a question will you update the mod for the current version of the game and get rid of "error logs" + I have a desire to help you with Russification and balancing the mod

Hello everyone! If you want to support the introduction of this mod to vanilla, then support the attached discussion on the Paradox website: likes, comments and UPVOTE (the main thing !!!)
- https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/return-defense-stations-and-fortresses-to-the-current-starbase-system-starbase-menu-defense-section-update-ion-cannon.1494003 /

and how do i build them

does this work with 3.0.4?

It is compatible with 2.8 and 2.8.1, I just didn't update the supported version; as for Alphamod ... I honestly don't know.

Could someone confirm if this is compatible with 2.8 and maybe just maybe Alphamod?

Well, that's kinda the problem with vanilla mechanism, since I need "auto_upgrade = yes" to make them upgrade themself(since they can't use shipyard because they can't move), but it create the strange issue that you experienced, I guess it's the side effect of trying to re-implement removed features.

Hi, thank you for this mod.

Just a head's up to other users - i was experiencing an issue (disclaimer: i was using custom station sections) where the standalone fortresses were getting their designs changed to auto-generated ones every time i advanced related research (e.g. higher level reactors or shields).

If you are experiencing this issue as well, you can fix it by editing this mod's mil_stations.txt and change "auto_upgrade = yes" to "auto_upgrade = no"

The file is located under 1459362790\common\ship_sizes\ in your steam workshop folder for stellaris mods.

in this case, I suggest the following, at the station T1 5C slots for defense and 1A cell (in the drawing), the weapon is similar to the usual platform. station T2-5m slots for defense AND 1A aseyki (in the drawing), (prozba do so, if you show 1 place for a gun, then let it be 1 gun, only now so on 1 slot for weapons 2 guns) T3-5L slots for defense and 1A cells (in the drawing) and make it so that they receive a bonus from the main fortress.

Actually I have once considered and tried add engines on them, but what happened was that AI will try to move all of them to the system center, or try to jump them to other systems (which they can't) so I just decided to make them stationary.

I have already talked about bosansu in the past, but I have a suggestion to add the ability to fly on the krepoti system, that is, attach engines to it (without a hyperdrive) . further on bolans I did not quite correctly suggest and for this if you are interested I can offer other amendments to the balance sheet

Dynamic cost of those platform maybe possible, and yes, those standalone defensive platforms exist before Stellaris 2.0, devs pulled them after 2.0 and now vanilla starports just melt in front of late game ships.

Honestly, I couldn't answer the question I don't understand either. Setting aside horrible formatting of slot symbols, I have no idea what "korobly" and "urudie" are. From what I inferred, you're suggesting changes in number and size of weapon/armor/utility slots to make some balance between sizes, but you forgot that in this case balance can be simply achieved by adjusting costs to the actual utility of those platforms, so there's no need to change slots. Also, I wasn't playing back then when it was a thing, but I think those defense platforms are straight up based on something that existed in the past in the game.

And we'll never hear the answer =(

about the balance. there are 3 types of platforms: small, medium and large on small s-boards, medium, m-boards and so on. just these shields have platforms in the mix, I suggest making a small vanilla-type platform without changes, on average it is 4 m and 3 a slots for protection, and then the weapons as on korobly 1 place for a gun = 1 urudie, and then 1 place for 2-3 guns, and the T3 platform has 5L slots for protection and 4 a slots for protection.

Unfortunately I'll have to use a translator =(

Well, I'm sorry to inform you that I actually don't speak Russian.

it's just going to be difficult for me to explain it with an interpreter

do you speak Russian?

For the placement part, I'm sorry it's not possible to change allowed placement distance without impacting vanilla mechanism.
The construction site problem maybe caused by bug or mods incompatibility if it stay after construction finished; if what you mean is not have construction site at all, I'm sorry it's also not possible, standalone military station construction have been removed from the game and I can't bring it back(It's hard-coded removal).
As for the balancing part, I'm honestly not sure what you want to change, is it more/less guns or more arms/cells? Is the generator under-powered?

Hello, your mod is just wonderful, but I want to ask a question about the balance and construction of fortresses. Is it possible to make it so that the fortress can be built everywhere (for example, as a gate, but uvalichit radius of construction to the star) and remove the construction site above the planets. and now about the balance, I will analyze the fortress, for 2 l cells 4 guns, for 4 m guns 6 guns, and so on, also prozbu edit the number of defensive cells a with m and l, and also edit the generator power for platforms, fortified platforms and fortresses

AI should be able to use them, although they may not build them that often as players do.

MY HERO! Does the AI use this tho? Or is this just a player build option?

It's done, some dumb game mechanism took me some time to figure out, but I'm able to make it work.

Any progress with it? Or it seems impossible after all?

That is some good news, I have never thought about this possibility tbh, and since some prior update to the game itself seems to make those "old" structure stuff not functional, I will take a look into those code as it might just solve the "unsolvable" that we all think and believe

After looking here and there, I think I've found a decent workaround to place those stations in space by themselves. It requires some scripting though. It goes like that: create a megastructure, which will remove itself on completion and spawn a fleet, containing a ship similar to marauders' dwelling. You can find related pieces of code in solar_system_initializers/marauder_initializers.txt and Gigastructural Engineering mod.

Yes, it will work with modded sections as long as they work with vanilla platforms, but you might have problem with fortresses since they are already different classes in vanilla

Trying to decide on what's actually different (and better as have yet to DL either xD) between this and the other mod?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1584359364

Does your mod work with components etc from other mods too?

Mod updated, should be working now

Hope you can fix it soon. The game really needs some defensive options.

No, it doesn't work now, dev seemed to have changed how weapon slot work and I am trying to fix it

Just wanted to check if this is still compatible with 2.6, haven't played this for a while but hope it will work!

It used to be a buildable structure that can be place anywhere and as many as you want in a system. Than 2.0 happens which changed a bunch of things including how starbase and defense platforms works, and that's how we end up with the current system.

Wait so this stuff was scrapped content? I wonder why! This would've been a way better method of doing starbase/system defenses.

Umm...no, it really, really isn't. Usually shields add the same value of 'health', just to a shield pool rather than armor.

The available segments are all vanilla ones, and because those platforms are now their own classes instead of general defense platform, any additional segments add by other mods will not show up. As for the shields, that's just how vanilla stuff works.

Yeah, had to scrap my old designs and re-research the techs. Works great currently, but a couple issues...
Defense Stations have their own segments now instead of using the defense platform ones? Asking because the 'oversized' segments are no longer appearing.
Shields appear to give a massively outsized boost relative to armor - like, while having a 50/50 split of shields and armor, shields are 3x the strength.
Were Spinal Mount sections part of this mod? If so, they vanished.

Everything Should be fixed now, the only thing I can't fix is because of unhooking from vanilla, existing defense station and fortress will be broken.

It seems that I have upset certain vanilla code in the process of unhooking this mod from vanilla code in order to add reactors, I'll try to figure it out.

It also broke the vanilla defense platform sections, and appears to have screwed up platform cap, with defense stations occupying 6 cap (and thus making sure any citadels you've built them around are overpopulated to an absurd degree).