Gods and Idols: Help, Hints & Info

Guide to Gods and Idols, don't forget to rate it up if it helps.

Intro

*Subject to changes and updates as content is released and while the guide is under construction.
*Also keep in mind everything here is pretty much from memory until I can really dig into this game to verify and correct stuff after some content servers come online from the rewrite.

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Basic setup for your planet entails the Farms & More Farms section up to and including the Warehouse & Haulers section. Any building listed after that is no less important, but I will leave it up to you to choose your own optimal placement and build order.

"Chalk it up to boredom."
-Me-

• Notes on accretion will be added as I take more notes after accretion servers are online.
  
• Pictures, icons and more. . .

After 16+ hours of playing with all servers up (they were still one at the time), three planets (with 37/47/54, 70,72,90, 93,90,47 [last one ended up looking like a desert planet, next to last looked alot like earth]) and constructing buildings on each I feel I have had time to notice a few things that might be helpful those just starting out. I also hope to provide helpful and relevant data and info for returning subscribers.

I am only one person working on this after work and RL stuff so be patient for me to put in new data as it becomes released. Feel free to post comments about any provable misinformation (I will fix asap) which will help contribute, should you desire.

Lastly, don't forget to rate this guide if you found anything helpful.

Thanks.

Controls and Navigation

Controls

WASD to move along x-axis.

Shift and Space to move down and up respectively.

Right clicking and draging with your mouse will rotate you in any direction.

Ctrl+WASD moves you much quicker, and still quicker the longer you hold it down up to a point.

Any combination of these is how you move around the huge galaxy.

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Navigation

• Important menus can be found along the top of your screen.
  
• On the top-left part of your screen there is the menu that lets you zoom to your capitol with the empire button if you get lost traversing the galaxy.
  
• The middle-top of your screen has the production and storage selection and information menu respectively, among others.
  
• The right-top menu has your exit button as well as the button to reset your tsli data (pretty sure that what it said read, will verify next available chance). And your options button.
  
• With a planet selected, data on building production at all of them appears in a new panel along the right of your screen.
  
• Almost all info that I was interested in was found either in the pop-up menu that appears when you click on a building in the info panel in middle of your screen. Or a static info panel along the left of you screen. The same on that shows your population, vagrancy etc.
  
• At this point everything in the game is likely subject to change. A good rule of thumb though is to hover your mouse and click things to explore this potentially awesome, expansive and data heavy multi-genre MMO.

(Not to mention having a bit of patience as the devs scramble to get the basics in place before they can make it shine like I suspect they might.)

The Galaxy, Regions & Stars

The galaxy in its entirety. SShot and editing by Me.

	Region Name	Description
Nuetral	Leiz-Zu, Omi, Vaire, Orea, Nimt, Crux, Fufa	Start your new empires here (except for Crux).
Unsafe	Felis, Arya, Kroh, Void
Hostile	Rift, Sol, Raki, Anath, Khar

• Position above or below galactic horizon does not appear to affect the sector you are in. Also, the color of the nebulae can help you determine determine the sector boundaries when not zoomed all the way out.

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Stars

Only thing at the moment that I can really put here is that there are:

Single Stars



System /goto 0 with lore planet. SShot and editing by Me.

and

Binary



System /goto 281. SShot and editing by Me.

(As well as a hidden dark star and other lore objects.)

Asteroid Belts: Accretion, Scry & Conjure

Accretion

After selecting a star in the galaxy either by zooming in with controls or the /goto [star#] command, then zooming in. You can start the accretion process (Minigame) at an asteroid belt by clicking on it, then clicking the button. The button to start the process can be found in the right most info menu, marked as "Accretion" from the selection list.

• Must have 50% Influence in a system to perform this action (past capitol planet?).

(You should start with more than enough influence. From what I've seen influence refers to your control over a star system and planets. Shows as a Percentage and I suspect to have its values influenced by who has seeded/colonized a nearby system or planet[unconfirmed].)



System /goto 6969 with an asteroid belt selected prior to accretion. SShot and editing by Me.

The minimum you want I have heard is ~70/70/70 in Metal Life and Gas respectively. On that note, I also remember hearing that 100/100/100+ is considered optimal. But probably not that important because you will likely want to reset your planet due to some RNG and reasons listed below.

• The minigame will take some concentration, so grab a cup of java or an energy drink and strap in (not on) because this minigame can be frustrating to get your stats just right. As you progress, incoming objects will travel from ZOMG hurry up and hit my planet already to holy jeebus slow down.

Bad

-	Potential Values
Asteroid	5, 10, 15

• Can be both good and bad depending on your goal. More often than not you will spend a lot of time in the accretion process fending off asteroids. If you get close to completing accretion before reaching your goals this is a viable option. Otherwise get rid of them.
  
• Sometimes later in the accretion stage I have noticed that certain asteroids can sometimes provide certain bonuses while reducing some or all stats, I am not sure if this is intended.

Mixed

Attribute Combinations
Metal (yellow)	5	8	16	-	-
Life (green)	2	3	16	10	-
Gas (blue)	2	3	16	-	10

• I did notice the values after building on my second and third planets that life does seem to affect the planet natural plant and tree growth rates.

Accretion	Values
	+20

• Can be both good and bad depending on your goal. If you have taken too many asteroid hits and your accretion completion percentage gets around 25-50% let it through your defences. Letting too many hit your planet too soon will result in a planet with low Metal, Life or Gas, as well.

Good

Planetary Bonuses	*Name(#)	*Effect
Low-Tier	#0
	#8
	#9
Mid-Tier
Top-Tier	#31
	#33

(#26, #2, #3, #5, #22, also but am unsure as to the tier grade at this time. Will be changed when patchs implement planet bonuses. Make note of your number and when released please comment here with your # prior to, and actual bonuses recieved after eventual patch. That way we can get a list of what is actually out there put out for everyone.)

• I have gotten two different tier bonuses on my second and third planets. Planetary bonus #9 and #33. They haven't been implemented through a patch yet but it is comforting to know that I could potentially make 33 planets and have a different bonus on each. How neat is that. I do remember while accreting my planets that I had multiple low, mid and higher tier planetary bonuses and I only received one #code so I hope the different tier bonuses can stack together bumping your bonus to a higher tier (or rarer modifier within said tier) when that content is implemented.
  
• Also if they don't wipe the planet server data before they release a patch with planet bonuses in it I will modify the table to reflect it.

(Honestly though, I was so busy pew pewing asteroids during accretion that I forgot to notice the values. Next planet reset I will spend more time on it and try to gather what I can.)

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Scry

Process selected asteroid belt for valuables or events.

• Must have 10 essence to perform the action associated with this button.

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Conjure

Take one planet from your vault and place it in selected astroid belt.

• Must have at least 1 vaulted planet to perform the action associated with this button.

Planet: Seed, Vault, Rename & Shatter

This section refers to the menu that appears when you select a planet, on the far right of your screen.

Seed

Makes your capitol planet and puts life on it to start you empire.

• Must not already have a capitol planet.
  
• Requires 50% influence.

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Vault

(Unlocks with future update.)

Warps selected planet into your vault.

• Requires 50% influence

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Rename

(Unlocks with future update.)

Changes the name of the currently selected planet.

• Requires 50% influence.

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Shatter

As the name implies this button destroys your currently selected planet and everything on it.

• Requires 50% influence

First Farm & More Farms

First Farm

First thing you want to do on your new planet is to build a farm west (or east) in line with your initial warehouse along your equator.

• I did notice that I could not build anything directly on the north and south poles.

Requires	Amount
Planks	10
Bricks	4
Concrete	5
Granary or Colony

• Select "gather materials by hand" box in top right of the building's info panel (after clicking on it).

Produces (amount)	Resources Required (amount)	Vagrants Required
Animals (12)	Grain (24)	4
Honey (12)	Animals (6)	3
Milk (12)	Animals (6)	3
Meat (24)	Animals (24)	8
Wax (12)	Animals (6)	3
Wool (12)	Animals (6)	3
Cotton (12)	Plants (6)	3
Plants (18)	-	2
Grain (18)	-	2
Trees (18)	-	2
Fruit (18)	Trees (18)	4
Vegetables (18)	Plants (18)	4

Gender Production Bonuses
Male	+10% Production Output
Female	-10% Resource Requirement

• Set your farm production to a simple mixture of plants, trees, fruit and vegetables. This should hold you over until you start wanting higher population requiring more food, farms, housing.

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More Farms

Next build 8 more farms in a tight square with your first farm on the right (or left) edge in the middle of the square then delete the farm in the middle. Be sure to select gather resources by hand in the farm info screen. You do not want to produce any food at your new farms at this point, as this will use haulers and may slow resource production/aquisition with other buildings. You will build a granary later on in the middle of the farm square.

• Farm combos that work nicely together are (plants, trees, fruit, vegetables), (grain, animals, meat, cotton), (grain, animals, milk, honey), (grain, animals, wax, wool) etc. I am sure there are other combos but this is what I have found that provides a nice balance of everything so far.
  
• Got 1250 or so inhabitants before server crash and was still having no problem maxing storage capacities with two of each of the previously mentioned farm combos spread across my 8 farms.

Mine & Concrete Plant

Mine

Build a mine north or south of your warehouse.

Requires	Amount
Planks	8
Concrete	15

• Select "gather materials by hand" box in top right of the building info panel (after clicking on it).

Produces (amount)	Vagrants Required
Rock (6)	4
Sand (6)	4
Clay (6)	4
Coal (6)	20
Ore (6)	15
Limestone (6)	4

Gender Production Bonuses
Male	+5% Production output
Female	+1% Chance to produce processed materials

• Set your mine to produce rock, limestone, clay and ore until you need other materials to build other buildings. Ore becomes pretty important later down the road but not yet.

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Concrete Plant

Make the Concrete Plant next, east (or west, whichever is opposite your farms) of your first warehouse set it to produce both bricks and concrete.

Requires	Amount
Planks	10
Bricks	5

• Select "gather materials by hand" box in top right of building's info panel (after clicking on it).

Produces (amount)	Resources Required (amount)	Vagrants Required
Bricks (54)	Clay (54)	4
Concrete (45)	Limestone, Rock (15, 30)	4

Gender Production Bonuses
Male	+5% Production Output
Female	-5% Resource Requirement

Sawmill, Smelter & Foundry

Sawmill

Build your sawmill on the side opposite your mine.

Requires	Amount
Planks	5
Bricks	10
Concrete	5

Best to select "gather materials by hand" box in top right of building's info panel (after clicking on it).

Produces (amount)	Resources Required (amount)	Vagrants Required
Planks (36)	24	5

Gender Production Bonuses
Male	+5% Production output
Female	-5% Resource requirement

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Smelter

Build your smelter north of your concrete plant and east of the mine. Smelter is needed for various materials, all requiring ore.

Requires	Amount
Bricks	30
Concrete	40
Mine or Colony

*Best to select "gather materials by hand" box in top right of building's info panel (after clicking on it).

Produces (amount)	Resources Required (amount)	Vagrants Required
Aluminum (36)	Ore (24)	25
Copper (24)	Ore (24)	20
Gold (3.6)	Ore (72)	25
Iron (36)	Ore (24)	20

Gender Production Bonuses
Male	+5% Production output
Female	-5% Resource requirement

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Foundry

Foundry is after that is after that. I only got far enough to find a use for metal tubing at this time.

Requires	Amount
Bricks	20
Concrete	70
Smelter or Colony

Produces (amount)	Resources Required (amount)	Vagrants Required
Glass (36)	Limestone, Sand (24, 24)	25
Metal Sheet (72)	Aluminum (54)	25
Steel (72)	Iron, Coal (54, 36)	25

Gender Production Bonuses
Male	+5% Production output
Female	-5% Resource Requirement

• I personally like to keep the smelter, foundries and forges grouped together, I found it easier to set production on them quickly if they are semi-organized.

Forge & Granary

Forge

Forge is next, select it to produce 80 metal sheets then 20 steel after it is done building. You will need this for your warehouse.

Requires	Amount
Steel	40
Concrete	80
Foundry or Colony

Produces (amount)	Resources Required (amount)	Vagrants Required
Wire (30)	Copper (18)	15
Screws (90)	Steel (30)	15
Tools (15)	Steel (12)	15
Metal Pipes (30)	Steel (30)	15

Gender Production Bonuses
Male	+5% Production output
Female	-5% Resource requirement

• I also found it helpful to keep them (smelters, forges and foundries relatively close) together to find them quickly and easily.

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Granary

Build your granary in the middle of the square of farms you made earlier.

Requires	Amount
Concrete	20
Planks	80
Metal Sheet	20
Housing or Colony

Holds
	Honey	Milk	Fruit
	Vegetables	Grain	Meat

Capacity to farm goods +250 per granary built. Provides 3 more haulers to your total pool.

• Warehouses can also move goods. Granaries seem to focus mostly on getting goods from and moving materials to and from your warehouses etc.
  
• Personally I like to use them instead of spamming nothing but warehouses.
  
• Granaries can help alleviate hauler stress from farm production since they only focus on farm related goods.

(I did notice that food was not a factor to population growth until after you build your second housing. So producing on more than one or two of your farms is no longer wasteful the moment you build your second housing.)

Warehouse & Hauler Tips

Warehouse

Build your second warehouse. You will want more than just two of these buildings.

Requires	Amount
Concrete	20
Steel	20
Metal Sheet	80
Housing or Colony

*Holds
Animals	Plants	Syringe	Planks
Candles	Trees	Coal	Concrete
Rock	Cloth	Clay	Tools
Glass	Screws	Aluminum	Metal Pipes
Bricks	Steel	Copper	Limestone
Ore	Wax	Gold	Rubber
Metal Sheet	Wool	Iron	Ammunition
Wire	Sand	Cotton	Weaponry
Plastic	Vaccine	Alcohol

Adds 250 to max warehouse good storage capacity. It also provides an additional 3 haulers.

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Hauler Tips

• Hauler travel time does play a factor in resource delivery/aquisition for production. So build any additional warehouses in an appx. chess game-type horseshoe or equidestant from each other, whichever. Basically you want at least one warehouse with 2 buliding spaces (Honestly there are lots of ways to do it and remain efficient, but just as many ways to jack it up.) empty in between the next warehouse that you place.
  
• You start with 5 haulers, each additional warehouse, granary and *Placeholder (the one that stores oil and water) provides an additional 3 haulers (unknown if a cap exists have heard of people with close to 100).
  
• Haulers can carry multiple goods but the max amounts varied depending on the resource gather/delivered.
  
• Reseting production in all or some buildings may be neccessary to get hauler priorities set.
  
• Producing related materials on farms can help reduce how often haulers are needed from your warehouse/s and granaries to move goods and materials.
  
• At this time to run smoothly, I would recommend to try and dedicate at least 2 haulers, +1 per additional required material, for each good produced (not really sure, but that's kind of the set up I have going at the moment to go along with my population and is the one I can provide feedback on).
  
• With, just 4 warehouses, a granary and a total of 20 haulers (had the *Placeholder built which added another 3), everything got done in a tolerable fashion. But ideally I would've liked to have had about 4 times as many warehouses to go along with my 2 forges, 2 foundries, 2 smelters, manufactory and every other building mentioned in this guide to constantly produce goods and materials.

(will update tomorrow if planet and building servers are back up after I get off of work)

(haulers and future npc units will likely get their own section down the road)

Housing, Population & Vagrancy

Housing

At this point you should have a nice little conglomoration of buildings. So placement of housing really isn't all that important aside from getting your haulers there. Power and essence is produced here.

(Building this prior to your second warehouse, or after are both potential choices. Building it before would give you more population/vagrants to speed up production some. But without more haulers to move these goods and materials you would end up bogging down you hauler collection que.)

Requires	Amount
Steel	50
Planks	20
Concrete	20
Glass	60
Forge or Colony

Produces (amount)	Vagrants Required
Essence (0.01)	200
Power (0.05)	150

Gender Production Bonuses
Male	+5% Production output
Female	+10% Population growth if production is set

• Prior to building your first housing planetary population caps may vary (I suspect based on your planet's life value). Building your first housing raises your cap to 250 (before I built mine my cap was 212.23 not a big gain). Every additional housing raises it an additional 250 and so on.

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Population & Vagrancy

more coming soon...

• Reseting production in all or some buildings may be neccessary to rebalance gender growth/production/vagrancy ratio.
  
• I have noticed that if do not already have a balanced population gender ratio you can adjust it according to whichever gender modifier is higher. I.E. Whichever actual (or vagrant) gender values are higher determines the population increase modifier in relation to growth. If you have +0.01 more men than women you will receieve a bonus to male population growth, (and vice-versa) that determines which gender gets the bonus 0.33%, 1.33%, 2.33%...etc. in growth per housing built.

Chemtank, Oil Derrick, Refinery & Manufactory

Chemtank

I can't remember the third storage building name so this will have to do for now.

Requires	Amount
Concrete	20
Steel	20
Metal Sheet	60
Metal Pipes	30
Housing or Colony

Holds
Water	Oil
Fuel	Clean Water

Capacity to chemical goods +250 per Chemtank built. Provides 3 more haulers.

• Haulers from this building tend to focus on _ related goods and materials.

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Oil Derrick

More info will come next time I can get in the game and see. Will likely want this placed near or around the oil/water storage building to help reduce hauler usage. Excess of anything will likely remain fairly unimportant until you start your fleet.

Requires	Amount
Steel	40
Concrete	10
Metal Pipes	85
Chemtank or Colony

Produces (amount)	Vagrants Required
Oil (12)	25
Water (6)	40

Gender Production Bonuses
Male	+15% Production output
Female	Chance to produce currency and fish

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Refinery

More info will come next time I can get in the game and see.

Requires	Amount
Steel	40
Concrete	80
Metal Pipes	45
Refinery

Produces (amount)	Resources Required (amount)	Vagrants Required
Plastic (48)	Oil (24)	20
Fuel (96)	Oil (24)	75
Rubber (36)	Oil (24)	15
Clean Water (13.2)	Water (15.6)	15

Male	+15% Production output
Female	-15% Resource requirement

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Manufactory

You will likely want to keep this building, like many other production ones, relatively close to your warehouses.

Requires	Amount
Bricks	50
Steel	40
Planks	100
Concrete	80
Glass	50
Housing or Colony

Produces (amount)	Resources Required (amount)	Vagrants Required
Candles (0.96)	Wax (9)	15
Cloth (0.96)	Cotton, Wool (9, 9)	15
Syringe (0.96)	Glass (9)	15

(more later that is all I can remember for now)

Gender Production Bonuses
Male	+5% Production output
Female	-5%Resource requirement

• The amount of materials to build here required a lot more hauler usage to produce consistently. The materials to goods ratio is high.

Obelisk, Hospital & Nightclub

Obelisk

Finished building one, so far it doesn't produce anything. Although, that may be because of the glitch for returning players with previous planets prior to server split. Obelisks are supposed to store power and essence but have yet to be fully implemented.

Requires	Amount
Bricks	30
Steel	20
Glass	80
Gold	20
Candles	80
Housing or Colony

Holds	Max per Obelisk
Essence	100
Power	100

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Hospital

Build it where you can at this point. I didn't actually get to finish it's production because my cloth took so long.

Requires	Amount
Steel	80
Planks	20
Concrete	40
Glass	60
Cloth	60
Housing or Colony

Produces (amount)	Resources Required (amount)	Vagrants Required
Vaccine (0.9)	Syringe, Clean Water (9, 9)	15

Gender Production Bonuses
Male	+5% Production output
Female	-5% Resource requirement

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Nightclub

Requires	Amount
Steel	40
Planks	60
Concrete	40
Glass	100
Cloth	10
Housing or Colony

Produces (amount)	Resources Required (amount)	Vagrants Required
Alcohol (0.48)	Glass, Grain (18, 18)	15

Gender Production Bonuses
Male	+5% Production output
Female	-5% Resource requirement

Armory & Defense: CIWS, MLRS, Torpedo

Armory

Build this after you hit 1000 population. Building it prior to 1000 population is fine, but you may lack the necessary population and infrastructure to support it continuously producing. Chances are you might want to build several to deter pirates. Whichever you decide to do, know that pirates will become a thing when you have either 1000 population or built an Armory.

Requires	Amount
Bricks	150
Steel	140
Planks	60
Concrete	280
Glass	50
Housing or Colony

Produces (amount)	Resources Required (amount)	Vagrants Required
Weaponry (0.48)	Steel (1.2)	50
Ammunition (0.96)	Steel, Copper (1.2, 0.18)	50

Gender Production Bonuses
Male	-
Female	-

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CIWS

Close In Weapons System is designed for small and manuverable craft like fighters, missiles and torpedos.

Requires	Amount
Steel	80
Metal Pipes	30
Concrete	100
Weaponry	60
Ammunition	60
Armory

Produces	Resources Required	Vagrants Required
-	-	-

Gender Production Bonuses
Male	-
Female	-

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MLRS

The Multiple Launch Rocket System is designed to overwhelm CIWS defenses and land hard hits on well defended vessels.

Requires	Amount
Steel	60
Metal Sheet	20
Concrete	100
Weaponry	80
Ammunition	80
Armory

Produces	Resources Required	Vagrants Required
-	-	-

Gender Production Bonuses
Male	-
Female	-

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Torpedo

Slow and unable to intercept smaller craft. The torpedo was designed to deal massive damage to large vessels and capitol ships.

Requires	Amount
Steel	80
Metal Sheet	20
Concrete	100
Weaponry	60
Ammunition	60
Armory

Produces	Resources Required	Vagrants Required
-	-	-

Gender Production Bonuses
Male	-
Female	-

Pirates and Fleets

Until game content is released for more info please use this link below for some pirate and fleet Q&A.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/423890/discussions/0/154643795212128836/
Authored by: Sepizza

Additional Information

*Don't produce/build more resources/buildings than you need haulers are limited until you are able to build your second warehourse.

*Remember not to be a miser on building warehouses once you can.

*From what I have seen stacking production only seems to consume materials faster. Max storage in production buildings for goods being produced seems to cap ~32.0 before a hauler is needed.

*Galaxy and gathering/production is persistant on logout.

*Reloading the game fixes many gui related issues.

*Try and leave at least one asteroid belt untouched in your system (or more). When scrying and other patch content is released this will probably become important to find valuables and events.

Helpful Links & Thank You

Helpful Links

I recommend you check out these links below. I plan to acknowledge anyone who has good links to information not obtained from my own first hand experience. If this becomes an issue for whatever reason let me know.

Video Quick Start Guide

http://steamcommunity.com/app/423890/discussions/0/1843493219427331909/
Authored by: Raven67854

Most Recent Update Info

http://steamcommunity.com/app/423890/discussions/0/1843493219426609625/
Authored by: Jattenalle.

Discord

https://discord.gg/HfnWa2n
(As for the Discord chat app I am not actually sure who responsible for it's upkeep and maintenance. I have seen Jattenalle and Raven in there, so it is recognized at least but unofficial as far as I know.)

Official Webpage

http://www.godsandidols.com/
Authored by: Jattenalle

Developmental Roadmap

http://www.godsandidols.com/roadmap/

My Review

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198052314944/recommended/423890

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Thank You

I hope this guide helps you out along the way, in the future. I apologize for any incorrect and outdated information. I will keep updating as servers come online and I can record actual data instead of just from memory.

If you do decide to use info found here, all I ask is that you give credit and rate the guide.

Thanks again for visiting.

[live4java]

This hasn't been updated in, like, 6 -years- and is really out of date with the latest version of the game. Great job pulling it together and I suspect it was really useful then. But the game's changed a lot since.

I don't have the time myself to delve in and do a new guide, but I am still curious as to what others may have found.

[Aerial_Gold]

what do i need for happiness?

[Snap]

I can't confirm that myself which is why I haven't put it in here yet. I am one of those players who are having some issues since the server split. Until I find otherwise I will go ahead and put in the max stockpile amount.

[Fanciful Spoon]

@Snap Hey I woke up this morning to find that my obelisk finally was built, and my stockpile had stored 100 power/essence in it. The stockpile told me that it was 100max power/essence per obelisk. In the top left corner, it does not display your essence and power as it should.

[Snap]

@ BelleFaerie At this point both power and essence can be produced but not collected/stored from what I've seen. Likely to change when in game cash shop/currency is implemented. Power is likely to be implemented when fleets are patched in.

@Cthulhu anything 70+/70+/70+ is what I consider minimum stats since they affect you base resource production i.e. mine output, plant and tree growth and oxygen generation for fleets when they are implemented.

[Cthulhu]

what would you say is a good standard resource number?
got 90/77/84 with bonus 33

[Fanciful Spoon]

I noticed that houses are capable of producing power/essence BUT, it also ought to be noted, that it tells you that it is stored in the obelisk. I am still testing this out to see if it actually does store it in there.

[Snap]

comment deleted, use a forum/threas to post your game related technical problems

[Snap]

I deleted your previous comment because I modified the first part of the accretion section to better answer your question.

[Snap]

Thanks, glad you like it.