Army Reform Commission Guide

A Guide on how to achieve different outcomes in Army Reform Commission.

Introduction

Before we get to the guide lets see how to get on the commission. Following are the ways to get on the commission:

• First way is if you accept Isobel or Wulfram's offer in Chapter 3A.
  
• Second way is to get someone on the commission to recommend you, for that you have to be friends [have at least 65 rel with them] with any one of following:
  
  • Marcus d'al Havenport
    
  • Eleanora d'al Welles
    
  • William d'al Elson (Father of Davis d'al Elson, our Captain in Sabres of Infinity)
• Third way is if you cite your expertise as a soldier for this to succeed your (soldiering+intellect) needs to be equal or more than 100.
  
• Fourth way is if you decide to appeal to the King directly, for this to succeed one of the following conditions need to be fulfilled:
  
  • If your 'royal' stat is equal to or above 35 (this is a hidden variable which is imported from Guns of Infinity, and this should be 35 or more in a general competent hero run.)
    
  • If your influence with royalist faction is at least 40 (should be relatively easy if you choose to speak in favor of army in prologue, and choose victory square townhouse, other ways are also possible).
• Fifth way is if you choose to let your reputation speak for you, this has 3 variations based upon your rank:
  
  • If you are Lt. Colonel you need at least 50 reputation.
    
  • If you are Major you need at least 65 reputation.
    
  • If you are Captain you need at least 80 reputation.

Now on to the Guide...

There are a few variations and outcomes that need to be understood before you can effectively use this guide.

1. Most important variation is whether in previous game you participated in the Secret Mission (SM) or Second Battle of Kharangia (2K). These two will greatly impact what is achievable in the commission. The commission consists of 3 factions (schools), Cavalry led by Palliser, Infantry led by Hawthrowe, and Wreck led by Castermaine, each with their own priorities.

2. Then thing to note is that there are 4 Votes for the commission which will determine its outcome.

• First Vote is in Chapter 4A. In this vote if you are on SM path, Castermaine's faction (Wreck) will always win.
  
• Second Vote is in Chapter 5A. This vote is important as it will determine the training recommendation which is stored separately than the final report of the Commission. In this either Palliser's faction will win, which will add the recommendation of Junior Officers receiving training before they get their commission Or Hawthrowe's faction will win, which will add recommendation of training Regimental Colonel's and their staff Or Castermaine can win which will result in neither recommendation.
  
• Third Vote is in Chapter 7. This vote will determine the scope of the report. This can have 3 outcomes.
  
  • Commission carries on without any interference.
    
  • Commission curtails its purview and will make limited recommendations.
    
  • Commission is suspended.
• Fourth Vote is in Chapter 8. This vote will determine whether commission will make a recommendation on Garing's new gun. This has 5 outcomes.
  
  • Commission recommends full and immediate adoption.
    
  • Commission recommends limited adoption for testing purpose.
    
  • Commission recommends trial of guns to be held for evaluation.
    
  • Commission recommends possibility of future trials.
    
  • Commission recommends that no new weapons be adopted.

3. Final report will have 6 major variations which will affect the overall recommendations, now these variations can be divided into 2 categories based on Vote 3 outcome.

• Curtailed Commission
  
  • Cavalry School: This will recommend
    
    • Permanent Skirmishers Unit.
      
    • Revised Manual of Arms.
      
    • Increased Houseguard Inspections.
  • Infantry School: This will recommend
    
    • Professional Logistics Corp.
      
    • Engineers receive a pay raise.
      
    • Ordinance Board is reorganized.
• Uncurtailed Commission
  
  • Cavalry School Dominant: This will recommend
    
    • Permanent Skirmishers Unit.
      
    • Complete Rewrite of Manual of Arms.
      
    • Complete Reform of Houseguards.
      
    • Regular Training for Junior Officers.
      
    • Annual Field Exercises.
      
    • Increased Ammo for practice.
      
    • New Uniforms.
  • Infantry School Dominant: This will recommend
    
    • Professional Logistics Corp.
      
    • Complete Reorganisation of Engineers.
      
    • Reorganisation of Ordinance Board.
      
    • Centralised recruitment.
      
    • Permanent Brigades and Divisions.
      
    • Full time General Staff.
  • Cavalry School Leaning: This will recommend
    
    • Permanent Skirmishers Unit.
      
    • Complete Rewrite of Manual of Arms.
      
    • Complete Reform of Houseguards.
      
    • Regular Training for Junior Officers.
      
    • Professional Logistics Corp.
      
    • Engineers receive a pay raise.
      
    • Reorganisation of Ordinance Board.
  • Infantry School Leaning: This will recommend
    
    • Professional Logistics Corp.
      
    • Complete Reorganisation of Engineers.
      
    • Permanent Brigades and Divisions.
      
    • Permanent Skirmishers Unit.
      
    • Revision of Manual of Arms.

Now that Introduction is over, I will tell you how to actually achieve targets in the next section.
NOTE:

• You need Charisma+Reputation>=100, for the second vote, relatively easy.
  
• You need Charisma+Intellect >= 100, for fourth vote if you have to argue either way.

Different Outcomes and How to achieve them.

2nd Battle of Kharangia Path:

Format for naming titles below is: [Outcome of Vote 2], [Outcome of Vote 4], [Overall outcome of the report]

1. Junior Officer Training, Full/Partial Adoption of Guns, Cavalry Leaning Compromise
• First Vote: Support Palliser.
  
• Second Vote: Argue against Castermaine.
  
• Third Vote: Vote No compromise.
  
• Fourth Vote:Stay out of Gun debate, Vote for Full or Limited adoption as per your preference.
2. Junior Officer Training, Full/Partial Adoption of Guns, Infantry Leaning Compromise
• First Vote: SKIP FIRST MEETING.
  
• Second Vote: Argue against Castermaine.
  
• Third Vote: Vote No Compromise.
  
• Fourth Vote: Argue Against Guns, Vote for Full or Limited adoption as per your preference.
3)Senior Officer Training, Full/Partial Adoption of Guns, Infantry Leaning Compromise
• First Vote: Support Hawthrowe.
  
• Second Vote: Argue against Castermaine.
  
• Third Vote: Vote No Compromise.
  
• Fourth Vote: Argue for Guns, Vote for Full or Limited Adoption as per your preference.
4)Senior Officer Training, Partial Adoption of Guns, Cavalry Leaning Compromise
• First Vote: Support Palliser.
  
• Second Vote: Argue against PALLISER.
  
• Third Vote: Vote No Compromise.
  
• Fourth Vote: Argue for Guns, Vote for Limited Adoption.
5)Junior Officer Training, Full/Partial Adoption of Guns, Cavalry Dominant
• First Vote: Support Palliser.
  
• Second Vote: Argue against Castermaine.
  
• Third Vote: No Compromise.
  
• Fourth Vote: Argue for Guns, Vote for Full or Limited Adoption as per your preference.
6)Senior Officer Training, Trial of Guns, Infantry Dominant
• First Vote: Support Hawthrowe.
  
• Second Vote: Argue against Castermaine.
  
• Third Vote: No Compromise.
  
• Fourth Vote: Argue against Guns, Vote for Trials.

Secret Mission Path:

Format for naming titles below is: [Outcome of Vote 2], [Outcome of Vote 4], [Overall outcome of the report]

7)Junior Officer Training, Full/Partial Adoption of Guns, Cavalry Leaning Compromise
• First Vote: Support Palliser.
  
• Second Vote: Argue against Castermaine.
  
• Third Vote: No Compromise.
  
• Fourth Vote: Stay out of Guns Debate, Vote for Full or Limited Adoption as per your preference.
8)Junior Officer Training, Partial Adoption of Guns, Infantry Leaning Compromise
• First Vote: Support Palliser.
  
• Second Vote: Argue against Castermaine.
  
• Third Vote: No Compromise.
  
• Fourth Vote: Argue against Guns, Vote for Partial Adoption.
9)Senior Officer Training, Partial Adoption of Guns, Infantry Leaning Compromise
• Support Hawthrowe.
  
• Argue against Castermaine.
  
• No Compromise.
  
• Stay out of Guns Debate, Vote for Limited Adoption
10)Senior Officer Training, Full/Partial Adoption of Guns, Cavalry Leaning Compromise
• First Vote: Support Hawthrowe.
  
• Second Vote: Argue against Castermaine.
  
• Third Vote: No Compromise.
  
• Argue for Guns, Vote for Full or Limited Adoption, as per your preference.
11)Junior Officer Training, Full/Partial Adoption of Guns, Cavalry Dominant
• First Vote: Support Palliser.
  
• Second Vote: Argue against Castermaine.
  
• Third Vote: No Compromise.
  
• Fourth Vote: Argue for Guns, Vote for Full or Limited Adoption, as per your preference.
12)Senior Officer Training, Trials of Guns, Infantry Dominant
• First Vote: Support Hawthrowe.
  
• Second Vote: Argue against Castermaine.
  
• Third Vote: No Compromise.
  
• Fourth Vote: Argue Against Guns, Vote for Trials.

[Microsoft™ Excel]

If you're not at 2K the army ends up taking more casualties because they took a regiment off the cavalry charge and instead used it to support the line.

[Boaboa]

Even though I'm on my third playthrough I've still never done secret mission but I'm curious nonetheless why is it that Castermaine's group is bigger and more powerful compared to if you go to Kharangia?

[WhoAmI?]

@Hwk1204 What was the ordinance board supposed to be? I forgor.

[Mersosayhan]

Is there a way to do full adoption of guns, while having the comission infantry dominant?

[Hwk1204]

IIRC if you aren't on ARC, it essentially dies.

[Akrakorn]

What reforms are implemented (if any) if you go full estate path? Does the commission take off?

[Hwk1204]

It does have effect on faction powers, but whatever you vote for in the Guns vote, will be given first preference.

[Arcanestomper]

I'm not sure that the guns really has an impact on the other stuff. I argued for guns, but voted for trials, and then got trials with a cavalry dominant position. Which doesn't appear to be on your list.

[Hwk1204]

Nope, unfortunately not, you can only get on commission in full Aetoria path.

[Lord_Malacrat]

So is the only way to join the commission to go to Aetoria in year 1 or can you manage your estate first and then go to Aetoria in one of the later years and still join the commission?