Ashen Empires

Ashen Empires

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Optimal methods for the most exp pool... (Outdated)
By Kai
The guide is kind of outdated...
The general common sense applies with ePool exp as the majority of quests are not repeatable, so whatever huge chunks of exp they give you, it's up to you to make full use of it to max out a single weapon, which makes it easier to equip late game weapons at lower levels (if they have no STR/DEX/INT requirements).
Giant Storage Crates can be bought at a NPC in Parian for 50,000 gold.
Crafting can become very tedious to get to mid game levels. You could try to stockpile easy materials on Valinor first (like making massive amount of raw silk to spin on the mainland).
When you play, the default quests makes you lose potential exp pool by making you do combat or grinding skill levels...

Focusing on these quests below first can let you reap the most exp pool for leadership lv15 and first aid lv15.
Roughly 50k is the total exp for lv15 skills if not less.

Note that most early Main quests you find in the castle and in the cottage involves hunting, so take them but don't do them if you want to do dynamic quests first and use materials from a alt character to deposit into the tradecraft trainers.

Some quests actually may not provide exp pool at all and is a waste of time until lv10.

If you do this correctly you should be able to achieve around 100k exp pool since lv10 starts somewhere around there.
   
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Avoiding standard exp/skill gains first.
When you start Ashen Empires, you kinda have no choice but to talk to the sage in order to access trainers.
But you are free to go anywhere so long as you can talk to npc for quests and do dynamic quests.

You can talk to the sage to get to level 2 maybe, as it gives you the same XP pool as exp gains.

Avoid skill trainers for the moment, you can start one to get a item and then abandon them if you so choose. Crafting trainers doesn't overlap at all.

Once you hit level 10, that's it, no more EXP or Exp pool gained, doing any quest is meaningless unless you want a item out of them.

For the latest Ascension server, I think some of the items you try to grind are meaningless unless it's the Wolf Pup Totem (Paula Duncan quest) and the Giant Storage Crate (Farmer Trainer).
If you were to continue grinding skill exp without gaining levels, than those same earning of skill exp and hours spent on Valinor could have been better translated to progression of your character levels on the mainland, as you can profit and gain gold in the same manner, and many players sells their wares to shops, causing them to be FILLED TO THE BRIM WITH RARE GOODIES.

Containers like the Giant Storage Crates are tradable, and if you have VIP on the mainland, you get 4 shared slots to move containers and items around (as long as it's not "no-drop" items).

So for your first character it's fine to progress and grind out farming to get lv13 planting and lv8+ foraging with about 30+ int, so you can give other characters through drop trading (hide a item somewhere, log out and log back in as another character). Make alts to try new builds, but also remember to leave slots so you can make quick alts for stockpiling the giant crates.

There is only two methods to get the Giant Storage crate, one is the Farmer Trainer and the other is a really complex extensive questline on the Mainland called "The Fine Land" which is literally labor intensive (good luck farming hundreds of items in dozens of fetch quests).
Quests and Tips
All dynamic quests (golden goblet above a npc's head) offer small amounts of exp and XP pool points, and does not involve any combat at all.
For 280-1500 points it ranges from finding a item, to escorting a npc, to talking to another npc.

Tour of Valinor
Dynamic Quest

This one is fairly rewarding as all you do is run to a cottage, run to a ruin to the south west, and run all the way back to town, without needing to fight. Do beware of the escorts being weak, mobs hits for like 8 to 20 damage so a very low hp npc might die in 2-3 hits.

Also do the tradeskill trainers, but it's more optimal to make materials prepared beforehand so you can breeze through the tutorial by giving the npc what it wants. Leave the final request of slaying a goblin boss type till the end , as the cooking trainer asks you to kill frump the cook boss.

When you escort a NPC, you don't have to do it right away, this mission lasts for an hour or two, and you can use the npc as a powerful follower to fight bosses like Bonesnarl relatively well if you grab the right class (Powerful npc are the orc shaman, the Purple Guards, the White Guards, and the Blue Guards). Just be sure to have first aid skills or healing spells to spam on them when dealing with Bonesnarl... A party is 100% recommended since the boss heals at 30% HP.

Make sure they are lv10 NPC with 200 health, I believe the three guards all uses projectiles while chasing a targe,, and have inherent cut resistance which reduces bonesnarl's damage out of 35-65 damage to them to be lessened to 20-40 damage. They also dodge attacks a ton due to their high stats as guards being borrowed.

Lost and Found
Lost and Found dynamic quests varies, but if you find one asking for a sling or a wooden bow, monopolize it. The leatherworking trainer takes any "Leather Sling" as a submission, and you still earn the reward talking to the kid to get your exp. The wooden bow is a amazing weapon to access early on for a Night Elf Dex Archer build, with the Wild Wolf Totem you can expect your DPS to skyrocket at the cost of your stamina (note you can buy a wooden bow in the mainland for less than 400 gold).

The rest of the dynamic quests are essentially fetch quests. Bring item from point A to point B, or talk to a 'storyteller' npc, get a tiny amount of exp (230-280) for it.
Items needed for tradeskill Trainers
Aeguides has the detailed info except for tailoring.[www.aeguides.com]

Each time you complete a step you get a chunk of exp, some of these provide items as well which are blessed sometimes, meaning you can't really sell em for gold unless you mean to keep em for actual usage. If you own the expansions, you can get a salvaging kit to break down these tools or items.

Tailoring requires:
10 Raw Silk
20 Cotton Strings** (if you spin raw silk it will update the quest but not let you submit it)
20 Woolen Fabric (20 yarns weaved)
20 Bandages (buy from shop)
Short Cloak (level 6 sewing)
Dress (level 8 sewing)

Blacksmith requires:
10 iron ore
10 iron ingot
Small dagger
Light axe
Small mace
Goblin Blacksmith*

Carpenter requires:
10 logs
10 planks
20 arrows (taking the archery trainer gives 100 arrows)
Mixing bowl
Mixing spoon
Goblin Carpenter*

Leatherworking requires:
10 skinned hides
10 tanned hides
1 leather cap (sometimes you find it in the leather crafting shop or armor store)
1 Sling (if you can get this from a dynamic quest Lost and Found, you can use it)
Leather leggings (gotta grind or prep ahead of time as people don't craft this enmass)
Goblin Leatherworker*

* Slay the goblins in one go when you achieve all stepsq
** Do tailoring after farming when you needed to plant seeds to do them both at once and use the cotton. **

Cooking requires:
10 bread dough
10 cooked spider legs
10 baked bread
5 baked biscuits
10 cooked chicken legs
Frump the Cook boss*

Farming requires:
2 Tomato seeds
5 orange seeds
10 Wheat Bundles
1 Cinnamon Bundle*** (very hard or rare to do this alone, have a group to cooperate and then sell the remaining bundles in the store for others to buy and use).
Goblin Farmer (avoid killing him if possible until this point, or wait 10-15 minutes).

*** Cinnamon is the plague of reason to stay on Valinor island, in that you want the storage crate quite badly and need to submit a cinnamon bundle for it. Technically you only need very high planting as you will hit or miss on the harvesting portion no matter what, so being able to plant the seeds successfully and consistently will net more output than failing to do so often, as you can only harvest if you successfully planted the seed.

To grind up experience for the cinnamon seed planting, you need to hit lv13 at the very least, and high INT helps with farming, so if you are a warrior, build towards a mage first, then reset your orbs at the old man npc to the west exit of Valinor castle.

The best and fastest way is to plant lots and lots of cotton. Fortunately, the farming shop sells cotton for 8 gold each, and each cotton you harvest (at least 1 per plant, more with fertilizers) can be used to plant again like a seed. So make fertilizer (bucket + grounded triddle shells + 4 raw spider legs) by using them like seeds and harvesting them to get fertilizer items.

Cotton will always give more EXP on a successful plant than any other non-scythe required plants, and it's easy to farm hundreds if you are dedicated to it.
2 Comments
RugerMix Sep 30, 2024 @ 3:52am 
Thank you, the guide was very interesting.
Rain Oct 12, 2022 @ 2:01pm 
Meow :er_heart: