One with the Shadows // Achievement Guide

Return the Thieves Guild to its former glory.

🗝️ The Thieves Guild

Little is known about when and how the Thieves Guild of Skyrim was founded, but it is rumored to have been around as long as Riften has. As the Fourth Era continued, the Thieves Guild slipped further and further into obscurity and the members and regular clients began to leave...

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⠀⠀⌞ Joining The Guild

To join the Thieves Guild, travel to Riften and come into contact with Brynjolf, who can be found at the Market Stalls during the day, or the Bee and Barb Tavern during the night. Brynjolf will approach you and question your wealth before inviting you to help him with a little plot. This begins the first quest, A Chance Arrangement, in which you must steal a ring and plant it on another person.

After joining there are a few requirements before you can unlock this Achievement. These include completing the Main Quest, Tonilia's Two Misc Quests and all 4 Special Jobs.

⠀⠀⌞ Main Quests

The first requirement is completing the Main Quest line:

• A Chance Arrangement
  
• Taking Care of Business

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• Loud and Clear
  
• Dampened Spirits
  
• Scoundrel's Folly
  
• Speaking With Silence
  
• Hard Answers
  
• The Pursuit
  
• Trinity Restored
  
• Blindsighted
  
• Darkness Returns

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⠀⠀⌞ Miscellaneous Quest: Part I

Tonilia will also occasionally have some Miscellaneous quests. You should complete these to avoid any issues, specifically after completing Scoundrel's Folly, as you will be offered the Miscellaneous quest: Speak to Tonilia about exchanging a piece of armor.

If you do not complete this quest, she will not talk to you about any other quests, including giving you Guild Master Armor and blocking you from progressing later.

You must keep at least one piece of Guild Armor to upgrade it, if you already got rid of all your Armor, you can find pieces near the beds in The Ragged Flagon - Cistern area, or more specifically in the North East Training Area, also in the Cistern.

⠀⠀⌞ Special Jobs

The other requirement is completing all 4 Special Jobs (otherwise known as City Influence Quests).

After joining the Guild, Delvin and Vex will offer you unlimited radiant quests, known as "Jobs".

You must complete five jobs in one region:
Whiterun, Windhelm, Markarth or Solitude to unlock that regions Special Job.

(Note: Riften is not required). In total you would be completing 20 of these jobs across the 4 regions.

The easiest jobs to complete in my opinion are Numbers and Shill. For efficiency you can receive a job from Delvin and Vex at the same time, completing them both before returning to minimise travel. Delvin and Vex can give you details about the other kinds of jobs if you wish to learn more.

If you receive a quest for a region you don't require (such as Riften or for an area you have already done 5 jobs and the Special Job) you can simply just talk to the quest giver again and choose to quit the job, and then receive a new one. You can also do this if you receive a quest that you may not be able to complete, for example another quest interfering with your task.

After completing 5 jobs in the same region, Delvin will talk to you about a "Special Job". The 4 required Special Jobs are for the Major Holds of Skyrim:

Imitation Amnesty in Whiterun
Summerset Shadows in Windhelm
Silver Lining in Markarth
The Dainty Sload in Solitude

You can complete these in any order you wish, I finished all 4 Special Jobs before completing the Main Quest. I also upgraded my armor after completing the Main Quest.

⠀⠀⌞ Miscellaneous Quest: Part II

The other Miscellaneous quest from Tonilia should also be completed Deliver Moon Sugar to Ri'saad, which is given after completing three special jobs for the Guild.

⠀⠀⌞ Becoming Guild Master

After all these requirements are done, speak to Brynjolf and a new quest should start called Under New Management. Complete the ceremony, then talk to Brynjolf again. He will tell you to retrieve your Guild Leader Armor from Tonilia (Note: For this step you are not required to already have a piece of Guild Armor).

Upon receiving your Master Guild Armor the achievement should pop!

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Returned the Thieves Guild to its former glory

📋 Checklist

A quick overview of what is required to begin the Under New Management Quest.

Main Quests

• A Chance Arrangement
  
• Taking Care of Business
  
• Loud and Clear
  
• Dampened Spirits
  
• Scoundrel's Folly
  
• Speaking With Silence
  
• Hard Answers
  
• The Pursuit
  
• Trinity Restored
  
• Blindsighted
  
• Darkness Returns

Small Jobs

5 in Whiterun
5 in Windhelm
5 in Markarth
5 in Solitude

4 Special Jobs

Imitation Amnesty in Whiterun
Summerset Shadows in Windhelm
Silver Lining in Markarth
The Dainty Sload in Solitude

Two Misc Quests

• Speak to Tonilia about exchanging a piece of armor
  
• Deliver Moon Sugar to Ri'saad

💜 Thank You

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Feel free to leave any questions or feedback in the comments below.

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[PissWater>BloodWater]

ok sorry for the late reply but....... apparently it bugged out into giving me the quest after 5-20 quests, it never popped up for me but when i did those mini quests, left the game. "closed it" and then re opeend it.... adn only doing so by speaking to the male character about all the holds i have set up XD

[PissWater>BloodWater]

fuck me i gotta check, ok it might be the murder one then ill infomr you right away if thats the reason why

[Heraizen]

I would try to complete any other quests you have around the Windhelm area as they could be blocking your progression. Or if available, loading an older save and checking if you can progress further there.

[Heraizen]

Which Quests have you completed?

A Chance Arrangement
Taking Care of Business
Loud and Clear
Dampened Spirits
Scoundrel's Folly
Speaking With Silence
Hard Answers
The Pursuit
Trinity Restored
Blindsighted
Darkness Returns

[PissWater>BloodWater]

hey Heraizen i have tried doing this quest and im stuck on windhelm, how come i cant retrieve the quest for this ahcievmetn? "note i have done the civil war first and sided witht eh legion" is it due to that its causing a bug to occur onto my save?

[Sumatris]

If you don't want to cancel jobs again and again, you can also quicksave before talking to Vex/Delvin and reload if they give you a job in a city you don't want. I found this to be more convenient overall, and also quicker.
Oh, and I advise you to take notes on how many jobs you've completed per city, because the game won't do it for you and it can get difficult to assess after a while otherwise.

[MsRagged1]

Great info!

[Heraizen]

Thanks guys

[why_1999]

this is gold

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nice!