-rep killed me (and only me!) in a PvP game. Honestly unbelievable.

-rep Bad killer, don't understand what everyone is talking about, this guy is a noob.

Again, I disagree with the vast majority of what you just said but that's okay. I think that you are valid for feeling the way you feel and respect what you gotta say. I just don't like being mean or when people are mean to me. Feels bad. That's why I'll never dog on the way someone else is playing. It's just poor sportsmanship. However, trying to win and using easy to implement strategies in a competitive game is not mean or rude in any way.

But I do agree with you never know what kind of day someone is having or what they are going through. So maybe you should take that in consideration before you load up to be a toxic killer starting at 5 gens with the camping, tunneling, and slugging because you want that kill or win so bad. When you play like that how is that you considering that the survivors loading into the match with you might be having a bad day and want to have some fun on dbd? You said it yourself "You don't care if the survivors think it is a boring match or not as long as you are having fun". So take your own advice!!!!

There is a saying "You have to lose some to win some". With that being said if you can't take the loses without needing to tunnel, camp, and slug then no you are not learning anything. You are literally taking the easy way out. That just isn't for me. I prefer to earn my wins with my skills. That is where you and I differ at. As far as name calling I didn't call you trash or braindead. I did tell you that you were being selfish and have no actual skill. That is not name calling that is calling it like it is. When you play by tunneling, camping, and slugging that is no actual skill and that is being selfish to everyone else that you are playing the game with.

Though I would suddgest to stop with the name-calling in post game. You never know when someone's having a bad day just trying to play the game to relax and just how bad getting hit with stuff like "youre so trash, braindead, childish, selfish, bad at the game ect." can get to someone.

Your last statement really confuses me because if I have the option to win( either by tunneling or slugging), you suddgest I don't take those and should rather lose as it will help me more in the long run. I disagree. And I think that's where I'll leave this. I just fundamentally disagree with you about this, tho I do appreciate the back and forth. It's interesting hearing someone else's thoughts about something I enjoy, especially when they're so different than mine

This started out as you being upset I slugged and tunneled to get an adept. I do not slug and hard tunnel every match nor do I play for the 4k every match. You just caught me at a bad time and I'm sorry you didn't have fun. I dont think the way I play this game needs to change, though I understand that that some people, killers and survs, don't enjoy using optimal strats to win. I do. I enjoy winning, and because of this, I do the starts that I think I need to do in the moment to win. Tunneling and slugging is just a byproduct of this, though it's not insurmountable. Saying that tunneling and slugging are flat out not necessary to win is just not a true statement, simple as.

Also there are so many survivor perks that we had to help counter most of that stuff but just about everyone of them has been nerfed into the ground. While killers and their perks have been getting buffed like crazy. Not counting all the aura reading perks, gen regress perks, end game perks, perks that make us one shot, perks that block pallets, etc. I play both sides. I am also a p100 scratch mirror Mikey and I have never had to result to tunneling, camping, or slugging to get a kill. I have lost my fair share of matches and took that as a learning experience to get better at him. So you don't get to use that excuse that you NEED to use those strats to win. What you NEED is to learn to take a lose to learn to get better at whatever killer you want to play.

When all of our resources are gone like the pallets other than our perks what do we have to help us? You as a killer still have the option to tunnel, camp, and slug. Again I will repeat myself. It is not about the fact you want to win it is how you go about doing so at the start of a match. If you as a killer out smart me or out play me without doing all the toxic things gg to you and good job. The fact that you can NOT use actual skill to what you call winning is just sad. So yes I do call the way you play starting at 5 gens toxic and selfish. If you can not get a kill or win without using crutch strats as you call them it is a skill issue.

I have stayed and died to many killers that were having a rough match. I just do not see the point of ruining anyone else's experience on this game by playing toxic. When you play like that you are part of the problem in dbd. Which a lot of the times result in people not wanting to play this game. You can say all day long that can't a survivor loop better etc. but even if you bring in all the perks ds, head on, dead hard, off the record, etc if the killer is determined to tunnel, camp, and slug what can a survivor really do? How is that fun for that survivor? Killers can change their game play up with all these things when they are losing a survivor can't.

The fact that you just said "I could care less if the person I'm slugging for 7 minutes or the person I tunneled out the game was bored" is one of the very reasons your gameplay is toxic. I can't wrap my mind around how you think it is fun to tunnel, camp, and slug starting at 5 gens. Why would you not want to learn some actual skills to use the killer you are playing to really earn that kill or 4k? Why would you not want to get as much bp as possible? Why would you want to rush a match by tunneling, camping, and slugging when most of the time there is a pretty good wait time for killer? Let's make one thing clear I am and always have been the type of survivor that does not go into a match just to be what you killers like to call a "toxic" survivor. I don't just run around a match to make the killers game miserable or unfun for them.

I also feel like I need to make this clear, I am in no way trying to give the survivors an interesting match that makes them feel like they have a chance. I am trying to kill them. As the name implies, its how I win in the video game. I could care less if the person Im slugging for 7 minutes or the person I tunneled out of the game was bored.

I personally see no reason to nerf myself in order to let the 4 other people in the game have more fun, as they would never do the same for me. What if I were crying on your profile about how you were toxic and dropped every pallet and did every gen then escaped? That would be insane right? Because thats what your role does, they are supposed to escape. Mine is to kill you and stop that from happening. The issue is that you view this as toxic, alongside me not using suboptimal strats or doing what I dont find fun. Its just ridiculous.

Is there any kind of self awareness here? How am I being toxic when the only thing I did was say ggs and then ask you why you called me stupid, selfish, childish, braindead, toxic and many other things? All I did was beat on a killer I dont play with perks that do nothing against decent players. Make it make sense.

I have a lot of issues with what was said here, mostly with how what you said conflicts with itself. You conflate me tunneling and slugging to being toxic, while also acknowledging that people are simply trying to play the game for fun. Does that "wanting to have fun " excuse no longer apply to me if thats what I enjoy? Also, could the survivors I am tunneling just not loop me better? I am winning a large majority of the matches I play, so am I really not learning anything about how to play?

It's funny how you try to justify your trashy and toxic gameplay but your page is filled with people saying the exact thing that I have said. It would seem like you would realize that you just have no skill. But apparently you are slow

First off I gave you a explanation. If you have to came and tunnel to get kills that is just a straight up skill issue for you. Playing like that teaches you nothing about the killer you are playing. Also like I said this is a 5 person game not just a you game. You can get your kills without having to play toxic and trashy. We are not playing comp games. If you want to use the excuse that camping and tunneling is a strat and you needed to for your adept then join a comp game. Most people that play dbd are just wanting to relax and have fun after a long day. When you load into a match where a killer has no actual skill they just tunnel and camp it makes for a boring match.

Had a pretty enlightening discussion with this person in endgame. They called me selfish among many other mean words because, and I'm being serious when I say this, I said I wanted to win in the pvp game. They could not give me a reason why slugging and tunneling (both of which I only did because I wanted the adept and they tried to heal under hook every single time) besides it makes the other people I am playing against have less fun. Genuinely may be the worst explanation for why tunneling is bad that I have ever seen.

(Also I was doing adept on killers I don't play, how else am I supposed to get a 4k?)

-rep Has no skill what so ever. They have to tunnel and slug just to get a kill lmao. This is def a child and thinks that they know everything with their 200 hr in game.

Have the day you deserve goes so hard

Dig your heels in, little dawg. But imma take your advice on this one. Have the day you deserve. Peace

"Survivors doing gens is so scummy bro like why do they care so much. They always do scrummy stuff like looping me and not letting me hit them for free."

Do you see how stupid this sounds?

Again tho, it being scummy is completely subjective. I find full slugging really fun and relaxing, epically when I run a full build for it. Its just a playstyle, nothing scummy about it. Just get better at the game and stop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on builds/playstyles you dont like every time you lose to them.

Ive always hated the argument that "you care and are mad because you responded to me." It just doesnt make any sense man. I am responding to a comment you made on my profile hours after a game I beat you in because Im bored. Simple as.

Again tho, it goes right back to what I said, embrace the scummy playstyle and hold your head high. If you truly are standing on business like that, then next time someone comes along and calls you out for playing scummy, you won't get all upset over it and just be like, "yeah, it was pretty scummy. ggs" and peace out. Like you said, it's just that simple, right?

But you do care tho. If you didn't you'd have simply ignored what I said and moved on. Like you just said right there, a couple hours from this comment, "it's not hard to accept" and "move on", your words. It might very well not be scummy to you and that's fine, but to say you don't care after putting in this much effort to respond is clearly a contradiction. I never said you had to change the way you play. In fact, I suggested that you just embrace the scumbag playstyle you've got working for you and hold your head high. There's just one caveat tho, you gotta be prepared for the fact that it's gonna rub some people the wrong way and those people, much like I have, are gonna talk sh--. I'm not going to assume you're already aware of this, especially considering how much effort you put in to respond. Glad we could have this discussion though.

Oh some real sh-- tho, why should I care what you think and change the way Im playing to counter that? I dont like it when survs do gens and not let me hit them, so should you just stand there and allow me to kill you in game because of that? Its just stupid.

I do it by simply not caring about what the survivors think. I refuse to cater or nerf myself in any way. To me, its not scummy. And if someone Im playing against considers it scummy, I simply do not care. If they want to win, they can. They just have to get better and outplay me.

Also, all I said was ggs glnm. You are the one that had to leave a mean message afterwards. Its not hard to accept you lost, say ggs, and move on.

On some real sh-- tho, how you gonna play like an absolute scumbag and then try to justify it? I am genuinely curious. Why not just hold your head high and accept the fact that you play scummy to win? You could have just been like, "yeah, you right, I play scummy" . Instead, you got all butthurt about what I said and sitting there, tryna mock me. Like, damn, little dude, did I hurt your feelings that bad by pointing out the truth?

"Killer killed me so I'm mad"

"what did I do?" You left every survivor on the ground, unable to play unless they had a very specific set of perks, then you tried to justify your scummy af behavior by saying "I'm a killer, it's my job to kill you", like you didn't just play the scummiest match of the day. I genuinely hope you step on a rusty nail, b--ch.

bro is wildcat buns

+rep goated Blighty

plays killer, negative aura, balls too big :(

5 gens, try hard, no personality. Ur lame