I was referring to OP about adding me to do OVK louds, assuming you found me on that forum thread. However, I guess I'll go ahead and accept since you left a comment.

adding to play some pd3

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ HE CAME BACK MERRY CHRISTMAS

Hope you've been alright.

Yes, I do remember you back when we used to play with Rell. I'm quite amazed you still remember me considering I haven't been in the PD2 scene for years now. I removed over half of my friends list, most of them were from PD2 since they didn't play anymore, if you haven't noticed.

Remember me from back in the day? I'm getting into payday again

Hey, I started playing GTAOnline and you’re welcome to join me and my friends in friends only lobbies so you don’t deal with modders and griefers.

If and when you'd like to play PAYDAY 2 again, just message me when I'm on. Those were some fun times and we can even play the new content that's coming out. I just wish you were playing back in the golden days of PAYDAY 2.

Happy holidays right back to you!

Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to you and yours! I wish you were online more often, but I understand you're always busy. Still, it was great fun to play Payday with you and I hope we can again some day. Best of wishes for 2020 and beyond!

Happy New Year guys!

Thank you. Merry Christmas!

Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Have a Merry Christmas,
And I appreciate a friend like you

Yeah, we'll definitely have to play. Happy holidays to you too, nox.! See you around!

Also Happy Holidays!

Count me in too, KF2 balancing is rubbish but I'd love to play with you sometime!

We'll have to do so for sure! I've been trying to find another game that's similar to PAYDAY 2 to finally branch away from PD2, and I think KF2 is it. Plus, I'm quite a natural at the game and I seem to already have decent skill at it.

I see that you finally started to play KF2. Let's play some games together sometimes!

Happy Thanksgiving to you, too.

Happy Thanksgiving!

You needn't apologize, I understand why you have such extensive absence. I just care about you and your health.

I'm sorry for being away and not being able to respond. We do have to catch up some time. See you soon.

Hey, I hope you're doing well, we gotta catch up some time.

Thats actually really stupid, but whatever thanks steam

It's okay, Steam now censors any swear words on pretty much everything now but your profile's info box(es). Funny considering this platform has mature-rated games... but we gotta censor swear words for some reason.

hey, not on my christian minecraft serber

Shut the ♥♥♥♥ up.

mmmm weebs

I don't exactly despise those who use Swan Song; but, the people who use it as a crutch on the max difficulty almost have no right to say they're great at the game since anyone can abuse 6 seconds of infinite ammo with even explosives and clear maps all day with them.

I more dislike the fact that OVERKILL still has that skill in the game when it should be removed at this point. The game today more than ever encourages solo play with the arguably overpowered Revenant sub-tree.

One final question, you still despise who use Swan Song right?

Pretty much. I only occasionally play with a friend now, or to try a new update; but other than that, I haven't touched the game really for months now. With all of the technical issues that are in the game and also the fact that the game is rather poorly balanced is what pretty much made me no longer interested in playing.

Knowing that OVERKILL will keep brushing off balancing criticism from people that arguably know more about how their game works than the developers themselves (like myself) is what ultimately made my decision in moving away from the game.

So, have you lost your interest in PAYDAY 2?

+ rep, great friend!

ok

Nice to log back in and find some more things in my comments section. Anyways, no, I don't play 7 Days to Die... so I really wouldn't know about it, or really care since I'm not interested in the game currently.

Also, brand loyalty is just the best. A typical situation where one user is throwing around insults at the other because he has justified reasons for disliking an update. I deal with that a lot.

@TheHandsomeArrow

Jesus ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ christ. I know that the Group Officers and Group Moderators have the right to remove anything they deem unsutiable for discussion but, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥. No wonder why I never posting in the forums back then.

@DeadKitty

Remember you mentioned something about brand loyality? I think I can show you an example of it based on some comments I got.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1445456385

Might be interesed to know 7 days to die has similar moderation to old payday 2. They delete posts and warn anyone who makes "wrong think" about the slow development time

@Dead Kitty

Hot damn. Well, there are some artworks in my favorites that makes fun of the KF2's Weapon Ugrade System(and some OP weapons). I wish TWI and OVK can be reminded of where they came from and a wise quote from a Japanese developer. I really hate that some players make really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ excuses for why One Down was designed like that. Hell, I even made a video explaining why I believe that PD2 One Down is broken. Also, the KF2 Weapon Upgrade System was rushed. It only gives a weapon a damage modifier. Plus upgrading a weapon is more expensive than selling a weaker weapon for a stronger one.

"A delayed game is eventually good but a rushed gmae is forever bad."-Shigeru Miyamoto (2012)

Made a quick joke about KF2's weapon upgrade system being implemented into PD2.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/2572002906853854678/#c2572002906857906229

Boy, people are just now starting to see the side effects of One Down being brought into the game along with every difficulty update after that. But let's keep listening to the people that say, "One Down is meant to be unbalanced". Even the devs threw that excuse around. But guess what? One Down being unbalanced affected THE ENTIRE GAME's balance aspect for EVERY difficulty. That's an utterly stupid statement to support, and quite frankly, you're an idiot to believe that's okay.

Can't believe that the developers in charge of balancing PAYDAY 2 actually thought that it was a good idea to increase damage and health along with numbers. And guess what? This all trickled down into other difficulties (like you've stated in your review). Now breaks in between Police Assaults are now almost nonexistent, some Perk Decks are entirely not viable (Maniac, Crew Chief, and other damage reduction Perk Decks are outright useless on Death Wish and One Down with the exception of Stoic), some weapons cannot compete with the amount of enemies due to the increased health across ALL difficulties and enemy numbers, which made them run out of ammo consistently because they NEVER rebalanced the ammo pickup rates for the increased health and enemy numbers. Melee was also made entirely useless and only decent with skills, but there's a clear amount of melee weapons that are better in every aspect than others, and of course, they're DLC ones.

That alone isn’t going to make KF2 Hell on Earth harder. It just make KF2 HoE feel relatively the same as it was near the end of Early Access. Except it has ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bullet spongy EDARS that discourage headshots. Which isn’t something the game needs at all. The only way I can enjoy KF2 again is using Controller Difficulty mod and No Robots mutator. Similar to how I used Quality of Life mods and difficulty Rebalance mods for PAYDAY 2 in single player mode.

@Dead Kitty

Well, apparently there is a post limit. TWI and OVK really want all the weapons in their games to be on the same playing field. Even though, that’s practically impossible. What sucked is that I ditched PAYDAY 2’s ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ One Down in favor for Killing Floor 2’s proper difficulty mode called Hell on Earth. HoE was fine. It just needed some big and weak enemies to move a little bit faster. TWI was too lazy to do that. They just ridiculously increase the “sprint chance” of the weaker enemies but, they’re already above 100% and their sprint speed was nerfed during Early Access.

I never had any clue that there was a limit to how many commments one person could leave on a profile within 24 hours, that's interesting. Anyways, yeah, seems like both companies just want to cater their game to just being a point and click title where every gun does tons of damage and for difficulty, there's just more health and damage with higher numbers of enemies. However, that's a very lazy attempt at any actual difficulty, and it gets bland very fast. Literally, the biggest complaint about One Down was how lazily implemented it was.

@Dead Kitty

Also, I would’ve forgived TWI for releasing a microtransaction character pack if they didn’t go aganist the core game mechanics they designed in their Killing Floor franchise since 2009. Also, their is a hidden limit in the amount of comments I can make on your profile apparently. So if I hit that limit, then I wouldn’t be able to post for 24 hours.

@Dead Kitty

That’s a double standard that annoys me when comparing the KF2 community and PD2 community. Players ♥♥♥♥ on Overkill(and the other corporations like EA and Ubisoft)for continually releasing DLC after they added microtransactions. However, TWI did the same exact thing OVK did a month ago but, worse. Hell, even this one player told me to “go back to PAYDAY” in the KF2 forums(the same player that makes meme posts in the PAYDAY 2 Forums). That response was deleted(probably by a moderator).

I'd forgive OVERKILL for all of this if it weren't for one reason: the fact that they don't fix the crashing issues and bugs, and then they proceed to just release more content and charged players for DLC. It's not like OVERKILL was great with bug fixing even in PAYDAY 2's golden days, but at least the game was in a playable state, and the balancing was a lot better. Now both of those are gone. I just don't see how people can take the game seriously anymore, and also how people will still defend the game despite it being this broken. Meanwhile, they'll go ahead and ♥♥♥♥ on bigger developers, like Ubisoft, or EA for their games being broken; but why is OVERKILL not held accountable? Don't care if they're a smaller company, there's no excuse for them to have their game a broken, buggy mess. Especially if they want to charge money for the game.

I just can't help but keep saying how much this is reminding me of Crimefest 2015's weapon rebalance, Housewarming 2016, and the Sniper Beta from February.

All of the hardcore vets leave due to the insane powercreep making some weapon classes outright just way more overpowered, and in PAYDAY 2's case, it's LMGs, Pistols, and Sniper Rifles. However, people for some reason still argue that Assault Rifles are still good, but they're not. LMGs outclass them in damage (without skills, which really matters), ammo efficiency, and magazine size.

And the thing about Tripwire removing negative feedback that is justified, that goes back to even the early access days of KF2, seeing as I saw that listed in quite a range of reviews back when I looked into the game and realized that it probably wasn't worth buying.

The irony is real though, Tripwire makes fun of OVERKILL just to end up doing exactly what they do just a few years later.

https://www.reddit.com/r/killingfloor/comments/8ppacu/dont_cry_fat_cat/

^Here’s the link to the reddit thread that contains the streamable file. I forgot to mention that the Mrs. Foster Characer Pack for KF2 is not only a character pack but, a microtransaction item as well. That can only be bought in the KF2 in-game store page. So, that means that it can only be bought at a specific price and a possibility for a discount is practically impossible.

Just finally got around to watching the streamable video you linked, and wow... Tripwire ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. Melee is absolutely broken it seems. Seems like they're going to play OVERKILL pretty soon and become really apologetic to try and get players to come back and then promise all sorts of things that will be fixed just for them to never fix it. It's a shame since KF1 was good. PD:TH was also really good... just for OVERKILL to ♥♥♥♥ all over PD2 and ruin it.

That's what the mainstream media teaches people... put the blame on others. They're all about blaming others.