Disabled "gpu acceleration" from the steam setup

[bidulless]

Hello

Not sur it's has been introduced with the full cef steam release but with the steam from march , if you set "gpu acceleration" to off , you can't watch any steam when it's completly working under the old steam release from april 2023 ..
If someone have news about that or it's a bug ?
Would be hard to check as valve stopped to update "what's new" for it client ...

https://i.postimg.cc/Y9zb9h16/a1-Capture.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/QCng95VT/a11-Capture.jpg
Not sur it's not a bug....

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Version bêta de Steam: Version stable
Version de Steam: 1709846872
Date du build du client Steam: mer. 6 mars 21:31 UTC - 08:00
Date du build de la version Web de Steam: jeu. 7 mars 22:17 UTC - 08:00
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[Ryuu]

But why do you prefer it being disabled in the first place?

[bidulless]

Publicado originalmente por Ryuu:

But why do you prefer it being disabled in the first place?

Hello
Because it worked on the steam 2023 and not the last one.
Disabling gpu accel use less ram and prevent some weird artifact like some people have .

[Ryuu]

Publicado originalmente por bidulless:

Disabling gpu accel use less ram

That does not sound plausible at all, must be the contrary since you're offloading work which normally GPU does to CPU and CPU in turns uses system RAM because it can't access GPU RAM.

Publicado originalmente por bidulless:

and prevent some weird artifact like some people have

That's not the norm! Have you tried solving the root problem? Is your videocard driver up-to-date? (and i'm speaking not of drivers from Windows Update, but from your videocard vendor website, they're always newer)

Or you're on Linux or something?

[bidulless]

Publicado originalmente por Ryuu:

Publicado originalmente por bidulless:

Disabling gpu accel use less ram

That does not sound plausible at all, must be the contrary since you're offloading work which normally GPU does to CPU and CPU in turns uses system RAM because it can't access GPU RAM.

Publicado originalmente por bidulless:

and prevent some weird artifact like some people have

That's not the norm! Have you tried solving the root problem? Is your videocard driver up-to-date? (and i'm speaking not of drivers from Windows Update, but from your videocard vendor website, they're always newer)

Or you're on Linux or something?

hello

Not me sorry ,)
And yes , it use more memory with "gpu accel" on , you can easily verify that yourself nothing easier here.
And yes there is some "weird artifact" that some people get while having this feature on
and again you can easily verify that by yourself , using the search forum function
I am not here to debate with you about that, just want to know if stream does not work while this feature is set to off , nothing else sorry.
Unfortunately i can't verify using the search functiion if now steam need to have this feature to on for watching broadcast, i have to read all "annoncements" in beta as it worked on steam v1682708537 from april ....

[Ryuu]

Well, too bad then.

1. disabling GPU acceleration is almost never the right thing to do
   
2. solving the root cause would be more productive and optimal
   
3. i don't expect you'll get a better answer here

[( ( < < <🤖> > > ) )]

but your not disabling gpu... isnt it just the acceleration bit...

[Ryuu]

Publicado originalmente por ragefifty50:

but your not disabling gpu... isnt it just the acceleration bit...

No, it means what usually is performed by the GPU is now performed by the CPU instead, you know like Software vs Hardware rendering in some old games? Yeah, it's very slow and inoptimal. It's a temporary measure, never permanent.

[( ( < < <🤖> > > ) )]

ok.... but should disabling gpu acceleration stop you from watching steam broadcasts

[Ryuu]

Publicado originalmente por ragefifty50:

ok.... but should disabling gpu acceleration stop you from watching steam broadcasts

Usually not, i guess. It simply should increase load on the CPU. Not sure about RAM.
BUT if the CPU can't keep up with decoding the stream and falls back too much — then i presume the broadcast would not work. And that would depend on the quality of the stream and how it's encoded.

[bidulless]

Publicado originalmente por Ryuu:

Publicado originalmente por ragefifty50:

ok.... but should disabling gpu acceleration stop you from watching steam broadcasts

Usually not, i guess. It simply should increase load on the CPU. Not sure about RAM.
BUT if the CPU can't keep up with decoding the stream and falls back too much — then i presume the broadcast would not work. And that would depend on the quality of the stream and how it's encoded.

hello

Exact, disabling this function should not have any link to the possibilitly of watching a steam stream but atm , having "gpu accel" set to off , i/we can't watch steam stream when it was possible under the april steam release.
But
Version bêta de Steam: Version stable
Version de Steam: 1709846872
https://i.postimg.cc/Y9zb9h16/a1-Capture.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/QCng95VT/a11-Capture.jpg
when with the april release everything is working fine using "gpu accel" off.
https://i.postimg.cc/K8gSwjw7/Capture.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/9M6N4vS2/111z-Capture.jpg
Version de Steam: 1682708537
And steam does not provide changelog anymore , you have to read all the changelog inside each post of the beta... damn lazy dev...

[Ryuu]

Write to Support, but they won't help you, i know that.
You should solve the underlying problem, you should not need to disable acceleration. Start with updating your videocard drivers from the vendor's website.
Not all things are guaranteed to work right in this configuration because it's not normal and inoptimal configuration. There may be good valid reasons for that, or maybe simply because it's unsupported anymore, no one spends much time to make beta feature (broadcasting) worth together with a setting which less than 1% of the user uses. Start by doing something yourself.

[( ( < < <🤖> > > ) )]

people really shouldnt have to run around this much.... anyway...

I dont need to disable gpu...
but doing so does stop you watching steam broadcasts...
and knowing this could of saved a lot of head scratching in my other post regarding
why broadcasts were not working.....

trying to use the least amount of ram and stop ram creep
from the steam client is the only reason i played with the setting.... but again...

i dont need too play with these things either.... my system does run well
and has enough resources not to really add any pressure to my system
with what i use it for....

[bidulless]

Publicado originalmente por Ryuu:

Write to Support, but they won't help you, i know that.
You should solve the underlying problem, you should not need to disable acceleration. Start with updating your videocard drivers from the vendor's website.
Not all things are guaranteed to work right in this configuration because it's not normal and inoptimal configuration. There may be good valid reasons for that, or maybe simply because it's unsupported anymore, no one spends much time to make beta feature (broadcasting) worth together with a setting which less than 1% of the user uses. Start by doing something yourself.

Hello

Sorry but i do not use the last steam client ,i just run it sandboxed on my windows 7. It's another case for @ragefifty50 as he/she use the last steam release and w10+, not sur if it's w10 or w11 , sorry can't remember.

I am not agree with you about your first affirmation about support, just because there is no way that watching stream does not work when 'gpu accel' is been set to off, as there is nothing about the changelog of the steam client since april 2023 about that so it can be a bug.

It work under the april steam release with "gpu accel" to off and it's not unoptimal like you said as it use less memory when set to off and work is done by cpu not gpu.
Valve let you choose this trought an option when it would have been so better to always use 'gpu accel' on ? It's nonsens as valve make this option available and if i were following what you write, everything on the interface steam setup should be set to on in order of "beeing optimal' ;
but optimal for what ? your point of view i guess wich at first glance is not the same as valve who made the client and this option available to their users when it would have been so easy to hide this option and always use "gpu accel" to on.
https://i.postimg.cc/Y9zb9h16/a1-Capture.jpg
this is what happen with "gpu accel" set to off on last steam release if you are watching stream from here https://steamcommunity.com/?subsection=broadcasts

[Ryuu]

Publicado originalmente por ragefifty50:

people really shouldnt have to run around this much....

Then they should stay on consoles. And OP is not even running latest Steam client — no one's gonna support that.

Publicado originalmente por bidulless:

Sorry but i do not use the last steam client ,i just run it sandboxed on my windows 7

Then you're on your own.

Publicado originalmente por bidulless:

I am not agree with you about your first affirmation about support

Then write a ticket to Steam Support and quote their answer here. Good luck with that.

Publicado originalmente por bidulless:

Valve let you choose this trought an option when it would have been so better to always use 'gpu accel' on ?

Simple: it's a setting for troubleshooting, if something works without it — means there's a problem with GPU acceleration that needs to be solved. It's not intended to be a permanent setting.
If there’s a problem — they may tell you to try disabling this setting to determine THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM which you don't want to solve. And Windows 7 is not supported anymore.

Heck, recently i had a game (Genshin Impact) which stopped launching at all on my older PC (with Win 11 and latest Steam), and guess why? Because my CPU does not support SSE 4 instructions!! In the next update the solved this, but only because there was a reasonable amount of players with that problem, but they're not gonna support such CPUs forever.
You on the other hand is on a completely outdated system, so everything you tinker with — is up to you to solve.

BTW Windows 11 after some point refuses updating on that second PC anymore, i guess the same reason — they don't support such old CPUs anymore. And i don't go around whining in their forums knowing that the problem is in my configuration, not their software.

[bidulless]

Publicado originalmente por Ryuu:

You on the other hand is on a completely outdated system, so everything you tinker with — is up to you to solve.

Hello

Funny and sad on the same time ; personaly i do not use the last steam client so i do not care if it works or not under "gpu accel'" off as it works flawless on my client with this feature off.
I just wanted to find some people who can test that under their w10+ and write if it works or not so do not gaslight ...