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Yaki 2018 年 1 月 16 日 下午 12:29
New Upgrades for MedievalMode
EDIT: Aug 31, 2018
Uploaded to Github.
https://gist.github.com/Yakibomb/835bda7f33c046e360cb02fb050cbf63

EDIT: Feb 9th, 2018
For those that wanna just look at the file itself, or implement it in their own server, read the top portion on how to exec in your own server:
https://app.box.com/s/1kihhumw2gticj3uv0gvasdnnucoctgb

EDIT: January 21st update!~
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1277743822
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1277743712
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1277743988
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1277743583

Main changes below.

Body Upgrades
+50 Max Health - 4 upgrades, $300 each
+15% damage resistance - 4 upgrades, $200 each
+15% base health on kill - 2 upgrades, $200 each
+35% healing from all sources (includes regen and health-on-kill) - 5 upgrades, $200 each
+3 HP Regen - 5 upgrades, $150 each
+10% move speed - 5 upgrades, $150 each
On Kill: A small health pack is dropped - 1 upgrade, $100
Canteen Specialist: Increase duration by 1sec and -10 credits per canteen bought - 5 upgrades, $50 each

Sniper Huntsman Upgrades
+50% damage - 1 upgrade, $600
Projectile Penetration - 1 upgrade, $400
+20% damage - 5 upgrades, $300 each
+25% Reload Speed - 3 upgrades, $250 each
On Kill: Minicrit Boost for 2 seconds - 4 upgrades, $250 each
Mini-Crit vs Burning Targets - 1 upgrade, $200
+5 sec Bleed - 4 upgrades, $200 each
+50% ammo capacity - 3 upgrades, $100 each

Medic Crossbow Upgrades
Projectile Penetration - 1 upgrade, $400
+20% damage - 5 upgrades, $300 each
+3 Clip Size - 3 upgrades, $300 each
+25% Reload Speed - 3 upgrades, $250 each
On Kill: Minicrit Boost for 2 seconds - 4 upgrades, $250 each
+20% firing rate - 3 upgrades, $200 each
Mini-Crit vs Burning Targets - 1 upgrade, $200
+50% ammo capacity - 3 upgrades, $100 each

Melee Upgrades
All Class
On Kill: Minicrit Boost for 2 seconds - 4 upgrades, $250 each
Mini-Crit vs Burning Targets - 1 upgrade, $200
+20% damage - 5 upgrades, $300 each
+10% melee attack speed - 5 upgrades, $200 each
Demoknight
+50% damage - 1 upgrade, $600

Canteens
Ubercharge - $125
Crits - $75
Ammo Refill - $5
Recall - $5

If you've got suggestions or wanna comment, I'd like to hear!
最后由 Yaki 编辑于; 2018 年 8 月 31 日 上午 4:56
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Orinuse 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 4:13 
Canteen Specialist only works if you are healing a patient with the Medigun. Unless you want that canteen discount which probably isn't worth it.

Lower the bonus healing from all sources value for non extra modded servers.

Don't know what remark to make for Increased Melee range
最后由 Orinuse 编辑于; 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 4:13
Yaki 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 9:58 
Thank you for the reply.

引用自 Addictedgamer
Canteen Specialist only works if you are healing a patient with the Medigun. Unless you want that canteen discount which probably isn't worth it.
This is not true from what I've tested. It increases the duration of the canteen effects, too, on top of the discount.

Lower the bonus healing from all sources value for non extra modded servers.
I'm not sure what the benefit is. Care to explain?

Don't know what remark to make for Increased Melee range
It was more of an experiment. Demo's swords all have 37% increased range, and the Soldier's Disciplinary Action has 70% increased range.
Orinuse 2018 年 1 月 18 日 上午 4:44 
just lower it by just a little or make it slightly expensive. Small healthkits may heal too much. (This is for the old upgrade, it's kind of ok now.)

Canteen duration, seems good. But since it is hardcoded
to be medic exclusive, I don't think this may help.

Melee range may become powerful due to increased melee range for weapons you mentioned. You can keep that value for extra modded I guess.

Make the damage upgrade a little more expensive (250 - 300?) and just four tiers. A Shovel with X2 damage one hit kills 125 health classes. Good for extra modded.

Crit resists might be good to be added back with low value resisted since the universal damage resisting doesn't do much to crit boosted bots.

Do the on kill attributes work in char?
最后由 Orinuse 编辑于; 2018 年 1 月 18 日 上午 4:55
Yaki 2018 年 1 月 18 日 上午 10:11 
引用自 Addictedgamer
just lower it by just a little or make it slightly expensive. Small healthkits may heal too much. (This is for the old upgrade, it's kind of ok now.)
It might be fine, but with the upgrade maxed (250% from packs) small health packs only heal 50% max HP. Heal-on-kill heals 100% when both are maxed, and regen heals 50 HP per sec with both maxed.

Canteen duration, seems good. But since it is hardcoded
to be medic exclusive, I don't think this may help.
It isn't, it works as intended for all classes.

Melee range may become powerful due to increased melee range for weapons you mentioned. You can keep that value for extra modded I guess.
In my missions, I'm going to make giants deal +75% damage bonus, but lower their swing rate to be -150% slower. It will definitely be worth it then!
Disciplinary Action already has +70% range, so it can't receive the upgrade. Swords can, however.

Make the damage upgrade a little more expensive (250 - 300?) and just four tiers. A Shovel with X2 damage one hit kills 125 health classes. Good for extra modded.
I might do this. I wanted the lower cost to add more flexibility with upgrades, but I'm not sure if this works.

Crit resists might be good to be added back with low value resisted since the universal damage resisting doesn't do much to crit boosted bots.
Since this is medieval, I thought that crits (and the like crits-on-kill) would be more scarce. Plus standard resistance does put tanks back on the map (mostly for Heavy) and it would be helpful for the increased giant damage I plan to add.

Do the on kill attributes work in char?
Yep, tested it. It works.
最后由 Yaki 编辑于; 2018 年 1 月 18 日 上午 11:06
Yaki 2018 年 1 月 18 日 下午 12:33 
I'm making more balance changes.

Body Upgrades
+50 Max HP - 4 upgrades, $300
+5 HP regen - 4 upgrades, $300
-15% dmg resist - 4 upgrades, $200
On Kill: +4s minicrits - 2 upgrades, $200
+15% speed - 3 upgrades, $200
+20% healing - 5 upgrades, $150
On Kill: Heal pack - 1 upgrade, $100


I realized +health is a lot more useful than -damage. I want slow/tankier classes (soldier, heavy) to have better standing than the other lighter classes early on.

+Health basically multiplies almost every other resist stat positively. Heal-on-kill, health from packs, and effectively damage resist. That is why it's more expensive.

General rule I wanted to follow was damage upgrades are cheap, but body upgrades are expensive. Included, if I'm buying an upgrade, it should cost as much as it upgrades. This means resists should be more expensive but do more and have a lower max upgrade. Cheaper upgrades mean you get them sooner but have less punch.

Since there will be no crit resist, the standard damage resist has to be cheaper to compensate.

I might increase +damage for weapons, but make them slightly more expensive. We'll see.
最后由 Yaki 编辑于; 2018 年 1 月 18 日 下午 3:07
Orinuse 2018 年 1 月 18 日 下午 6:26 
not much of a trouble with these upgrades, but remember that the bushwacka exists. Minicrits on kill is balanced for other classes, but a bushwacka may change the purpose of the upgrade.
最后由 Orinuse 编辑于; 2018 年 1 月 20 日 上午 12:45
Orinuse 2018 年 1 月 20 日 上午 12:47 
Minicrits on kill in general is a good idea, but the bushwacka just makes it crit on kill. Make it more expensive to ptobabky 300
Yaki 2018 年 1 月 20 日 下午 7:55 
Thank you for your comments!

Minicrits on kill in general is a good idea, but the bushwacka just makes it crit on kill. Make it more expensive to ptobabky 300
I changed it up a little. Minicrits go for $250 credits up to 2 seconds, up to 8 seconds, and they are now a weapon attribute. Base Health on Kill is now a Body Attribute.

In addition, I removed the health pack on kill and added ammo regen. This gives room for a new attribute for all weapons, so I added a new attribute... Which I would like to be a surprise when you try the missions!

I released the custom upgrades in the Content Request thread. It will work for two missions: Target Practice and Hillside Hell. Target Practice was also reworked for the new upgrades.
最后由 Yaki 编辑于; 2018 年 1 月 20 日 下午 7:57
Yaki 2018 年 1 月 21 日 下午 7:50 
Updated first post. Upgrades won't hit the server until tomorrow I'm guessing. Hopefully won't be long! Haha.
Orinuse 2018 年 1 月 21 日 下午 8:00 
why two damage upgrades lol
Yaki 2018 年 1 月 21 日 下午 8:06 
Thought that demoknight mains would be sad that crits-on-kill would be downgraded to mini-crits. So, I put a +50% damage bonus there so they could still be damage kings.
Orinuse 2018 年 1 月 21 日 下午 8:18 
65 + (65 * 200%) + (66 * 50%) = 227.5 [damage upgrades]

227.5 + (227.5 * 35%) = 307.125 [mini crit]

Rounds off to 307 dmg

Normal crit - 195

rats this powerful o_o

just information lol

idk if this balanced o_o
最后由 Orinuse 编辑于; 2018 年 1 月 21 日 下午 8:19
Yaki 2018 年 1 月 22 日 上午 12:02 
Wait, that's not it. Try multiplying the percents together, then with the base damage. That nets you the final number.

That math works for melee I think, but for whatever reason I get 780 for crit arrows. Whyyyyy

EDIT: Hey, after 15 minutes, I finally got it!
50 (base) + 70 (charged) = 120
With the damage multipliers, I guess it only multiplies the (charged) damage, not base+charged.

50 + 210 = 260 * 3 (for crit) = 780
最后由 Yaki 编辑于; 2018 年 1 月 22 日 上午 12:23
Yaki 2018 年 8 月 20 日 上午 7:33 
Is there any way I can get these on the server? I've asked before a few months ago..!

I worked hard on this and would greatly appreciate it if they made a spot on the server.

Thank you.
Orinuse 2018 年 8 月 20 日 上午 9:10 
maybe after Canteen Crasher launches you might have 1% more hope
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