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With a standard competitive combined with a lets say 10-20 cases, I get like 2000 XP.
I feel this are more than enough.
Note that you will get less XP for each match, thats because your weekly bonus (that are added both to traditional match XP and overwatch XP) will decrease for each match. This bonus resets weekly.
A good idea to get large amounts of XP is to just do lots of OW cases and then "finish off" with a standard competitive.
So I don't care if the standard matches get a "penalty" for having done OW cases, you get LOTS and LOTS of XP with the weekly bonus.
Keep an eye of weekly bonus. Normally you will se that the weekly bonus is somewhere 150-200% for the first instance, so if u get 100 XP for a OW case, you get also 200 XP in bonus.
Next match, you will only get 100% week bonus, so you will get like 100 XP for a OW case and 100 XP in bonus. Next, there will be 50 % and so on, until your bonus is set at zero.
This bonus I think is there to keep off people from being TOO active in standard matches. I guess this is well tought off to give room for newer players so the servers don't become too full, eg "give everyone a chance to partipicate". Note that weekly bonus only lowers after a match, not a OW case. Note that the bonus penalty are not preventing you from playing, its more a incentive to wait and play next week instead to give room to never players, if you already played very much this week.
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Are you talking about getting a reduced XP for failed overwatch cases? (where you did vote in disagreement with others)?
Then its intended. If you are doing less than perfect OW job, you are getting less XP. Simple.
Agreed. I do it because I want to give something back to the CS community, and a game that I love.
Sorry, Sebastian, I wasnt clear enough. Thank you for your excellent and detailed reply.
I noticed that, after the XP bonus / normal XP phase, there is a reduction phase where your XP is reduced by a significant factor.
My idea / suggestion is that, during this 'reduced XP phase', any XP earned through overwatch should not be penalised or 'reduced'.
This is both a.) an incentive to do overwatch and b.) a good reward for the honest members of the community who will also have nicer things (like a level 4 or level 5 Service star) as compared to the less ... 'reputable' members of the community.
It could be solved by having the overwatch reward to be handouted directly when it detects that you did a correct verdict (eg when the case is finalized and any bans have been handed out or system decided to not hand out any bans), but that would propably require a heavy rebuild of the XP system that is designed to handout XP after a match completion.
The reason you get a XP penalty is that you play too much CS:GO, so it backoff XP to give you a incentive to calm down on playing.
But you wont lose any pending Overwatch reward, so just keep on overwatching, wait for the next week, and play a match, and then you will get full XP + full week bonus. So if you go down to playing lets say one match each day or each 2day, and the rest overwatching, then you will get huge XP for overwatching.
As you might know, before the XP system was implemented, queue times could be long, like 10-20 minutes. It was because the servers was simply full, it couldnt cope with the load.
By giving bonus for people that haven't played so much, these gets a "priority line" to the server, so those people that have already played too much just gets "base xp".
But your ACTUAL overwatch XP and match XP will never be penalized, its just the XP bonus that is penalized.
Not sure if you know but having a reward for doing Overwatch is something new. Before that we were reviewing cases for 2 years without any rewards. If you do Overwatch just for the rewards, then you can stop.
Hehe guilty as charged on that one (convicted?) since I did play a little bit too much CSGO on my holidays ...
This discussion is not REALLY about XP ... unless you are after one of the service stars.
My point is that overwatch service should not be penalised. As valve deemed to give an incentive to do overwatch, it makes little sense to have it taken away "for no good reason".
So if you ignore the bonus, and ONLY look at the raw match XP and Overwatch XP you get, then you will see that nothing are taken away.
Bonus is just a bonus that is a percent of total XP earned (match XP + OW XP) that decreases with each match, to avoid having you to fill up the servers too much. This bonus resets each week.
My dear Mr Nielsen,
I think we are discussing two very different things. YES the bonus does exist. YES this is an incentive, YES you can recieve it at any time,YES you can play too much and enter the "reduction" phase and YES this bonus resets. I agree with you on those very relevant points and many more.
This is were our opinions differ - during the 'XP reduction phase', ANY 'XP' you earn - in whatever CS:GO game mode, apart from missions - is reduced by the formula of "[value] x 0.175" during this time.
There are many articles on reddit or on the cs:go wiki (http://counterstrike.wikia.com/wiki/Rank) that discuss and prove this formula that you can google and peruse at your leisure.
Next time I (or anyone for that matter), earns XP during the 'XP reduction phase', you simply reverse the formula and you will see for yourself that any XP earned during this phase is GREATLY REDUCED. I will even try to get a specific screenshot to prove this - or you can freely search through mine.
Several times I have recieved a reward of 69 xp points, when at other times the same reward is 400 xp points (or more with the bonus - I do roughly the same number of o/w views on every occasion). By amazing co-incidence, it is also the very same mathematical value if you apply this reduction formula or increase it by reversing the formula.
My point is that, as valve will not give out a special badge / emblem / coin to reward overwatchers, why not remove this penalty during the 'XP reduction phase' for overwatch members? Valve wins as more people do overwatch (as the new 2016 Service medal can be raised up to 7 times) and we - the CS:GO community - win as more hackers are detected and removed from the game.
I do thank you though for a mature and well thought out discussion on this matter. I also thank you for carrying out your opinion, and letting me express mine, in a respectful and relevant manner. Please be aware that I am not after a flame war and I do welcome another's point of view.
At the end of the day, and this is only as far as I am concerned, we are both after the same thing - less hackers and griefers in CS:GO. I enjoy a good, challenging game between two teams and I thank you for your time and any efforts you have done in order to make this game a better place.
So there is incentive to overwatch more than playing, because then you will, in total, get more XP if you do more overwatch cases between each match.
What do you want? Lots of XP, but queues of 1 hour and upwards, or less XP, but you get into match like 15 seconds after start of search?
One thing would be to remove the XP reduction for Overwatch XP only, but then, they need to change the system so overwatch XP is awarded immediately after a case is resolved (eg, when a case results in a infraction or no infraction, for the suspect), not at the subsuquent match.
You need to understand that servers become too loaded, regardless of we talking about non-overwatch people playing, or overwatch people playing. Its no difference, nobody wants this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=100736868
(yeah, I know its a screenshot of a VERY old CS:GO version, but you understand the issue)
On this you are 100% correct and you have my full support. NOBODY want this. Ever.