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In-home streaming without displaying on host SOLVED!!!
Yes, I did it :). No Virtual Machines, no Xen or other hypervisors, no setting low-level graphic card passthrough hardwork and no performance losses! Works perfectly. And this is simple.
Right now, while I'm writing this text on my PC, my wife can play Assassin's Creed 4 Black Flag with the hiest graphics level on her laptop with GF 240M adapter, while the game is executing on my machine with dual GTX 660.:)

This is what everyone was expecting from Valve to beleive in-home streaming as a live useful tech, suitable to start using it, and this is what you guys CAN now propose to your customers.I'm no greedy, so catch it :):

The soft is Aster V7 homepage http://ibik.ru

I don't know how exactly does it do what it does, but I can tell you what is it. This program "allows several users to work with one computer independently as if each of them had their own PC. ASTER is a shared computer access software solution and does not use thin clients and terminal stations, i.e."
Other words if you have one computer and two monitors, using this soft you can dinamically divide it's resources to execute two environments at the same time. It just takes as much as it needs to the process (game).
You just create another account on your OS (Windows 7 x64 Ultimate in my case), adjusting this soft and as a result - both accounts are active at the same time each with its own mouse, keyboard and display working independently. And this is all what we needed for. The one nuance at this moment - it's highly desirable to use multiple video cards in the system - one to each account. You can use just one for both, or even SLI from two cards but some issues with mouse are possible.

Detailed manual how to let it work (learn russian :)):
http://other-games.ru/blog/aster_dve_igry_na_odnom_kompjutere/2013-01-11-3

In short:
1. Be sure you have another monitor for the second account or another socket in your current monitor (I did the last thing), second mouse and keyboard. Connect it.
2. Create second account on your OS.
3. Disable SLI in Nvidia control panel.
4. Install Aster V7.
5. Configure Aster V7. Assign to each account his video adapter, mouse and kb, sound card.
6. Click on Apply and then - "enable and reboot".

Important! There may be troubles with some programs which will autostart on both accounts (ASUS AI Suite II in my case) so you'll need to disable unnecessary ones on a second account. Be sure to set in autolaunch your steam client and - this is all. Enjoy.)

P.S. I've already posted it here: http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/540744934778834885/ , but a poor reaction and its absence in search results let me think I should share this info here too. I think it's worth to be writen twice. :)
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You should mention the price, $87 for 2x, $250 for 4x.
I am doing similar with VM's, but this is interesting since I can multiply the VM seats x2.
Looking at the trial.....
Hmm, watching with interest, subscribed, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for commenting on my post, but it's not what I'm looking for. The method that you share is for people who have 2 monitors connected to the same PC. I only have 1 and I will not spend more money to buy another. Valve has to fix the Transmit in the background. Thanks anyway.
Dj LaAuOL eredeti hozzászólása:
The method that you share is for people who have 2 monitors connected to the same PC.

No, it is not :). You've red my post quite inattentively :) I have only one monitor connected to my PC just using two cables - each of them is connected to the different port of the monitor - first one to DVI, another one to Displayport. So all you need is your monitor and your graphic card both had second input/output port (or two graphic cards each with single output port). Furthermore, you don't need another mouse and keyboard, only yours ones, cause this program let you switch'em between user accounts by hotkeys.

So as a result:
On my PC with Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and Aster V7 installed, two user accounts are active at the same time. The first one is mine initial of administrator and the second one is new of normal user, running Steam client which is in autolaunch there. When system starts I see my desktop as usual (video from the first account goes to DVI port which is active by default), while video from the second account goes to Displayport and I don't see it, so when notebook initiates a streaming session it don't take me off my work in any way, while if I want I still can see what's going on there too just by pushing the button "source" on my monitor.:)

Dj LaAuOL eredeti hozzászólása:
Valve has to fix the Transmit in the background.
Agreed, this is something desired to be present by default whithout using third-party software.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Agmy; 2014. jún. 25., 0:30
This looks like it could solve my problem. Thanks!
Hi, I was wondering how people are getting on with this method?
Some insight from me :D. So here it goes.

Aster V7 or SoftXpand allows you to play any 2 games at the same time from 1 pc.
There is one limitation to all of this, you have to play most of games in windowed or windowed noborder mode if you want to play 2 games at the same time, unless you have 2 graphic cards in your pc. Also if you can't run 2 copies of the same game you have to use sandboxie to isolate games from system.

Dj LaAuOL eredeti hozzászólása:
The method that you share is for people who have 2 monitors connected to the same PC. I only have 1 and I will not spend more money to buy another. Valve has to fix the Transmit in the background. Thanks anyway.

To run this method you need to physically activate 2nd video output on your graphic card. You can use:
1. 2nd monitor or
2. connect 1 monitor with two cables (vga and dvi) or
3. use dummy plug: http://www.ebay.com/sch/woopsserg/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=


eric eredeti hozzászólása:
You should mention the price, $87 for 2x, $250 for 4x.
I am doing similar with VM's, but this is interesting since I can multiply the VM seats x2.
Looking at the trial.....

There is also cheaper alternative software SoftXpand Duo for $27.
http://www.miniframe.com/buy-now/home-users.html
Legutóbb szerkesztette: HorexAtoD; 2014. aug. 8., 6:40
Hi this actually would solve my issue.

I have one PC, and my wife's got a Macbook Pro.
And I will like to play some games with her, Co-op mainly or in some cases play two different games at the same time.

Most of the games we like to play aren't available on Mac so this will be my idea.

See up 2 accounts on my desktop PC with Aster.

Have Aster (1) initiate Steam and launch the game locally.

Have Aster (2) initiate Steam and stream to the Macbook, so she can play there.

I will test this tonight.

Thanks for the help.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: zerocdv; 2014. nov. 10., 15:55
zerocdv eredeti hozzászólása:
Hi this actually would solve my issue.

I have one PC, and my wife's got a Macbook Pro.
And I will like to play some games with her, Co-op mainly or in some cases play two different games at the same time.

Most of the games we like to play aren't available on Mac so this will be my idea.

See up 2 accounts on my desktop PC with Aster.

Have Aster (1) initiate Steam and launch the game locally.

Have Aster (2) initiate Steam and stream to the Macbook, so she can play there.

I will test this tonight.

Thanks for the help.


let me know how this gets on.
Necro.

lamccall eredeti hozzászólása:
zerocdv eredeti hozzászólása:
Hi this actually would solve my issue.

I have one PC, and my wife's got a Macbook Pro.
And I will like to play some games with her, Co-op mainly or in some cases play two different games at the same time.

Most of the games we like to play aren't available on Mac so this will be my idea.

See up 2 accounts on my desktop PC with Aster.

Have Aster (1) initiate Steam and launch the game locally.

Have Aster (2) initiate Steam and stream to the Macbook, so she can play there.

I will test this tonight.

Thanks for the help.


let me know how this gets on.

Also really interested in how this worked out. I am in the exact same situation and would love for my girlfriend to be able to stream off my PC while I play.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Magg; 2016. jan. 5., 13:06
Magg eredeti hozzászólása:
Necro.

lamccall eredeti hozzászólása:


let me know how this gets on.

Also really interested in how this worked out. I am in the exact same situation and would love for my girlfriend to be able to stream off my PC while I play.

I too am extremely interested in how it turned out. If it worked for him, then that would mean I can stream a graphic-intensive game to a family member in a different part of the house on their laptop, right?
I have had extensive use of Aster V7, firstly it runs better at the moment on win 8.1...basically because the win 10 version is still in alpha/beta...secondly what Aster V7 does is allows two or more simultaneous user accounts at the same time, leveraging the hardware intelligently between the seats...thirdly is u have it setup for your computer monitors to turn off on timer or you use sleep...you will need to disable both of those in windows or you will get the always restarting bug, something they haven't worked out...and finally if you'd like to change resolutions after the seats are logged in by there software its not possible...so instead just use Hotkey Resolution Changer on both the seats and change the resolutions on each how you like...initially setting it up, before you login to the seats, you have to setup the monitors before hand, with this you can set them up after as well...Aster v7 is the best multiseat program, all the rest suck...
I can confirm Aster V7 + Steam stream works on win10. :')
MasterMind eredeti hozzászólása:
I have had extensive use of Aster V7, firstly it runs better at the moment on win 8.1...basically because the win 10 version is still in alpha/beta...secondly what Aster V7 does is allows two or more simultaneous user accounts at the same time, leveraging the hardware intelligently between the seats...thirdly is u have it setup for your computer monitors to turn off on timer or you use sleep...you will need to disable both of those in windows or you will get the always restarting bug, something they haven't worked out...and finally if you'd like to change resolutions after the seats are logged in by there software its not possible...so instead just use Hotkey Resolution Changer on both the seats and change the resolutions on each how you like...initially setting it up, before you login to the seats, you have to setup the monitors before hand, with this you can set them up after as well...Aster v7 is the best multiseat program, all the rest suck...
I don't mean to resurrect this thread, but I wanted some way to reach out to MasterMind directly. I'm using Aster on Windows 10, have an IP address assigned to each desktop, but I can't get it to detect other local Steam installs for in-home streaming. They're all using the same gateway.
Yeah, I'm having a similar issue when i Boot steam on one user login and then boot steam on another user it closes steam on the other account... Do we need two separate steam installs for this?
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