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Also, tentacles. But they're ROBOTIC tentacles, so no males here!
And~ even if it's robotic tentacles, it still gross af. Espesially if it uses as:
Yuri (lesbian)-based game, with robot tentacle scenes too!
All tentacle scenes are skippable, though!
They only show up if you lose to bosses.
All the robot tentacle machines are entirely robotic!
There are far more yuri scenes than tentacle scenes!
13 women that you can get involved with!
All of them with yuri scenes AND robot tentacle scenes!
So, if you gonna lose, protag just be raped. And not only protag. AND, this thing mentioning too many times, like it is a entire point of the game and this novel about "how robotic tentacles rape some girls" and not about yuri. And so many exuses about that. Thanks, but hell no.
Yeah, art is good, so damn good, but nope for me. I hate tentacles. Very much.
P.S. If it was something like girl with tentacles, as some species, like monstergirl and she used her tentacles for LOVE, having sex with girl she love, not as damn rape theme, it would be okay. In one or another way. Even for me.
P.S.S. Don't matter, whats type of tentacles it is - it is not a exuse for doing something like that. Espesially if its for the rape theme.
Yeah, I played the demo in 2017 I think, so maybe the game has improved since then idk, I don't play that kind of stuff anymore. But I do remember the game had some pretty fucked up stuff, like when Talia stumble upon Faye while she is getting raped, and when Faye ask Talia for help she just laughs at her face and leaves, are you going to add that kind of shit to RR ?
Ofcouse they did. They said, that girls enjoing the rape. For me, it's fucked up as hell.
But are we going to stumble on female characters while they're getting raped by machine or whatever ?
The dialogues might have changed since then but from what I remember she did not seem to be "unaffected" by it, to say the least, she was begging the MC to help her get rid of the creep and it didn't seem like she only wanted to get rid of him because of her mission.
It also makes me wonder if characters in RR are going to be the same ? Having female characters that don't care about having sex with anyone or anything, anywhere and all the time doesn't seem to be good character writing to me, and it definitely doesn't make the characters "believable and relatable". Maybe there is a "plot reason" for it, but to me it just seem like the plot was specifically written in a way that allow for a maximum amount of H content, it's just awfully convenient, which isn't something bad, but it's exactly like every other H game with game over rape.
So, in RR, does that mean that if you lose to a robot you can still escape from the situation instantly before it even really begin or does it mean that you character could escape if she wanted to but instead she is just going to stand here and get fucked ? I mean, you said at ANY time.
From my totally personal take on the matter, this community will keep going to be a hard catch for the dev, becasue he- just like most people, treats yuri as a fetish.
Isn't it nice when Yuri/Lesbian tag (e.g. F95 forums) means threesome with dudes or things that are not girls? ahaha
People who definitely won't be interested in a game with tentacles are better off just leaving this alone, but people who aren't sure have questions.
Yuri (lesbian)-based game, with robot tentacle scenes too!
All tentacle scenes are skippable, though!
They only show up if you lose = rape to bosses.
All the robot tentacle machines are entirely robotic!
There are far more yuri scenes than tentacle scenes!
13 women that you can get involved with!
All of them with yuri scenes AND robot tentacle scenes!
How many times you write tentacles? Too many than actual yuri, yo? And after this, you said, that your novel not a fetish game? Okay, it must be some cruel joke, okay. BUT. This is your words, again:
Also a note on the game over rape stuff; Talia does actually enjoy the sex, as she says so both in her voicework and in the dialogue/script itself in every game over sequence. The only reason she tries to escape is to get on with her mission which is time-based, not because she hates or doesn't want the sex.
As for similar things in Reclaim Reality, all I can say is that the circumstances are similar there
And what do you say about I'm not so much treating it as a fetish as I am a "theme"; the lesbian aspect is pretty deeply worked into the character's relationships, especially during the sex scenes.? Do you really think, i'll believe you after this?
Okay, forget about this. Next is:
Without spoiling it, all I can say is that the machine scenes in RR are crucial to the actual reality of the situation, assuming you do lose; the plot, canonically, would work without you ever losing to them though. The actual scene still needs to exist though in the event of a loss, however, or the entire plot falls apart. - so you said, that damn tentacles-machine rape is the crusial point of the entire story? Seriously? And after that, it's no fetish? Hell yes, it is indeed a fetish! Why? Because of this:
Yes, the characters verbally say they're enjoying it in every game over sequence; evoking the creator trope, I can say that's canon that they are, they're not just saying it.
None of the characters in both games are ever injured physically or hit/bruised etc., never called degrading names, always have the option to escape from the situation/get out of it at any time (and they do, every time), have no fear of injury or death (as it's impossible in both games), and anyone initiating sex with them is punished as well, so no glorification either.
So, protag have a legal GF, but she just fuck around with another characters and more of this, she'll be not just be fucked, she'll be raped by robotic tentacles AND she'll be enjoing this. Your words. Tell me - is this your understanding of I'm not so much treating it as a fetish as I am a "theme"; the lesbian aspect is pretty deeply worked into the character's relationships, especially during the sex scenes.? If so, i think, it's EXACTLY the fetish type of yuri. Oh, and please, help me with this paradox of yours:
13 women[b/] that you can get involved with! All of them with yuri scenes AND robot tentacle scenes!
and
Nope, as the machines only are after Melinda; the only time you'll see machine sex scenes is losing to the bosses..
And, ofcourse, about your:
We want the lesbian/romantic aspects of the game to be something that feels natural, and while there is a lot of sex in the game, there's very few scenarios where sex is more of the focus than the interactions between characters are. The sex scenes between women are meant more to show different layers between the relationships of the characters as well as sides to the characters you don't normally see
The main theme of this novel is SEX. Just because patreon said so and that The nerupoison can also be slowed by producing Endorphins, and one of the best ways to produce endorphins is, of course, sex! So it is that Melinda must persuade those she meets in her psyche to sleep with her to help cure her.. Okay, maybe you really did some deep aspects of this side of the relationships. But, like i said, main char already have GF and she have sex with other several people. Including raping by tentacles (no matter what the type of tentacles) and she actually enjoing it. That's the main problem. And i can understand, why /u/ was so against you novell.
Sorry, if i being harsh, but i'm not a native english speaker, so, sometimes my words can be too... cruel. Sorry, if its like this. And don't get me wrong - i'm not against your vn & i respect your choises and views, and MORE than that, i respect you position. And, what the best in that point, that you don't low your level and don't being agressive towards other opinions about your game, even if this opinions are bad. Really, you have my respect for this. Well, i can't wish you luck with RR, because of my tastes and all, but i don't wish you something bad. Just do, what you want to do and you find you auditory. It's more right, than anything. And i don't expect your anwer - we both know, how it ends, dude. So, don't waste your presious time on some another yuri-pure fan. Really, i mean it in a good way. Just good luck.
P.S. And last, but not the least: be more attentive with your description of the games. If you mean something in this, you MEAN this. And not any demo can help you with this. Seriously. Descriptions are one of the main thing in your work. Remember that.
P.S.S. Don't use the banhammer on me, Hanako, please. I just said my point of view. Nothing more. It's all legal. I'm sure! I know my rights! Maybe...
I also apologize to everyone in the group for what is seemingly a pretty controversial thread. Just wanted to share a game I thought people might like.
Still, love everyone who's posted their thoughts <3
Actually, I did, around the time when it appeared on F95 forums (October last year).
I was really impressed because your game have Lesbian tag without dudes involved in sex. And I admire your decision to put options for disabling unwanted scenes, most h-games I saw only have options to disable girl x girl stuff, if any.
Heck, in comparison, Reclaim Reality (as stated in your goal) DOES have more yuri content than many other games out there, even after putting robot tentacles into equation.
That aside, I said you treat yuri as a fetish, because that was what I took from your posts at F95, Patreon, and here. I didn't know stuff 'bout your consultations and intentions before your reply- but hey, that's what discussions are for, and you really are good at conveying sound arguments.
Thus I apologize for my crude words, poetry is not my strong point.
Oh, good luck on the funding.
Innocence is Bliss. Refrain from reading stuff below to have less salt in life.
I just found a lil' thing while checking config file of RR ver0.02a to confirm stuff (and downloaded the latest ver0.05 public demo to see any changes).
https://i.postimg.cc/j5Mbmjmr/image.png
It's nothing big, just how they like to code, I guess.
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So 'bout that fetish thing, I believed you, I really did. Ahahah, thanks for a good laugh.
Yeah, MC's friends are in MC's brain to try to save her from the neuropoison. There are some skeevy bits in terms of how things went down, where it's clearly hinted at our "fair" doctor left out a lot of details and hoops the friends need to jump through to save MC. Even if she did, nobody remembered how they got there or understand what's happening until info dump.* The doctor said they volunteered to save MC. Ok. Sure. We will go along with this for now. Although this didn't account for that weird rapey robot tentacle CG before MC is fully awake in her current brain zone. Potential explanation:
This has happened before. At some point MC already got Bad End once and the doctor/other friends(?) somehow saved/reset this BE. Which would also explain the sex scene flashback/flashforward MC experienced. Resetting/whatever science mumbo jumbo the doctor did also affect the other participants' memories, so they remember nada.
The whole "have sex in order to recover HP/sanity" is very... Hentai game logic as far as I can swing this. At some point MC collapses because she overexerts herself and was exposed to too much poison, so far pretty reasonable. And then the good doctor announces via god mic that endorphin from orgasm will make MC all fine and dandy. ... Hwat? This is almost Fate Stay Night mana transfer level logic. Doctor, are you sure you and your colleagues aren't secretly recording this for some weird awkward porn? Fine whatever, I'll just pretend I'm playing one of those adult games. I can still buy this. Hey, you can choose to have sex with your gf, your bestie, or your boss.
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Dude wha?
Ok. I can understand polyamorous relationships. Alice the gf even said she encouraged MC to go out and experiment with other people. That's fine. I replayed this scenario 3 times to check out the dialogue option. Erm... Given the situation at the time, I suppose the options are... plausible? Shit was sort of hitting the fan. And maybe gf may indeed have issue x, bestie issue y, and boss issue z. I was really on the fence here since for me there would normally need to be more hook to this like feeling sexual attractions towards these other women rather than "this is a job/hurdle we gotta power through."
The one interesting side bit I do enjoy during this random sex-capade is if you pick the bestie during this, she potentially drag out more plot points than the other two.
I'm completely ignoring the part about fighting giant robot, because for some reason that is just much more reasonable than all this other stuff. Wait wait wait, I take back what I said.
The goddamn robot and its tentacles. I understand why people would be really leery of this. After intentionally failing the first robot encounter where no rape happened and the ending is inevitably the same; and then also intentionally screwing up the robot fight where MC + friends get tentacled... Wait, this is actually an impossible to fail scenario? Because orgasm = poison flushing, so the fight just resets and you are forced to fight the thing again... Unless this affects character relationships, MC status and other assorted things that won't get covered because, demo. Now I'm left with even more questions. For some weird nanomachine thing hellbent on going after MC, it's only interested in getting them sexually off and then runs off like a bad one night stand partner? ??????? I am left with so many questions.
*Alice. I got a question. How and when did you get to the hotel. Do you work for Batman? I'm hoping you actually have a better grasp of the situation than the other clueless friends. Because this is way too convenient for you to just be there at the right time. You are also the only person who didn't seem shocked at all when the whole "sex for HP" thing came up.
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I'm sure there are very rational explanations behind everything. Especially given how intentionally vague and incompetent the doctor is, plus the sex flashback/flashforwards the MC experiences. Maybe the whole thing will come together in one big aha moment, hopefully. Although I'd think a good number of audience's initial reaction will be "WTF", or "oh god, is it one of those kind of hentai games, all sex and thin plot." I think there is definitely more substance to this, so I'm cautiously optimistic and will be keeping an eye on the project. So far I am definitely interested in the characters and their backstories. But I think yuri fans would be a lot less weary if there are more... romantic scenes that don't look like plot sex. Granted this is a demo and given the severity of the plot, maybe not enough time for those things. Look, rapey robot tentacle won't ease people's mind if you are going for a serious angle.
... I am going to just blame everything on nanomachines and go sleep this off.
wow... it's more fucked up, than i thought...