Originally posted by Reiner Schaden:

Originally posted by Kevin #23:

I'm sorry we discussed this conference and the vote fell keeping this bet.

I was always mad when people accused you of scamming when they didn't get anything back because their values were too low. But in this case you are simply wrong and the way you are dealing with the betters is really really poor.

This is how they always deal with us. Like we are something they stepped in. They hardly ever communicate and when they don't seem to realise it's our items that have made this website possible. Treat us with some fucking respect and give us back our items.

Originally posted by Kevin #23:

We always want to encourage people to do their research before they do their bet. Infact that this info was out early there was enough time to change the bet or reconsider. http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2i09cx/starladder_updates_mym_renamed_to_fnatic_fnatic/

Lol that's not research ffs. We all knew that the two new teams had been created. So you should have put 4anchors and not fnatic. You fucked up. Not us. You admitted your fault in my post but you still paid out the items. We want our stuff back. Not one website said the game was 4anchors vs VP Polar, they all said VP polar vs Fnatic. And if you indeed knew the team playing tonight wasn't the same team that played PR earlier then you should have changed it. Which you admitted to. So the fault is your end and the bet should be reversed. But you guys didn't give one fuck and put the bet through with no serious thought about it. You fucked up royally and deep down you know it

Originally posted by Loisa:

basically if they win they wont complain if they lose they range smh.

I made this post before the game started, if you can't be bothered to notice that then don't try to aggravate people in the post.

p.s there a wonderful video on the net that I think some people in here should watch http://www.break.com/video/john-cleese-breaks-down-stupidity-2772653

Originally posted by bearnutz:

Originally posted by MUGGYZ Cottagelover:

This isn't one different stand-in, its a different team. Both teams contain players who were either stand-in's or long term players in Fnatic. Now they have become two separate entities. SOOO D2L should label the matches accordingly if they knew this.

As this isnt labelled correctly, bet should be cancelled. Thats it.

thank you for the items

its ok i'll take yours next time, but seriously fuck this website, they never stick to the rules

Originally posted by luk:

GJ D2L <3

Whats a good job about this, they just scammed a load of people out of items, even after admitting an error they don't cancel the bet.

omg they are paying out items wtf?

Originally posted by `372:

FOR THOSE WHO DID THEIR "RESEARCH"
"Ace and Ryze have been seen playing officials with H4nn1, ComeWithMe and ArisE, which seems to be the new iteration of the Fnatic squad. "
From gosunews , u can see the same in JDL , just pharaphrased
Even orgs know this is the real fnatic lineup and anchors team is finstack >.< thus roster confusion which lead to cancellation of bets. Every reasonable person would understand this so i got absolute faith on that admin. :D

+1 but i'm not so confident about what the mods do

Originally posted by -RaPist-|'Sam':

the right thing here is to cancel this bet as no mention was there on d2l or any other site for that matter..all showed fanatic on betting screen...now if so many people who bet thinking it was fanatic would be wronged by this bet..organisers of d2l should get behind this and cancel this bet..

+1 thank god theres more people in here with some sense on their shoulders than not

Originally posted by luk:

this is fnatic, 3 players match and they have their starladder score

its not Fnatic, it is 4Anchors playing in the leaderboard spot of Fnatic on starladder, and Fnatic are playing in the leaderboard spot of MYM on starladder. That was what Starladder decided when these two new teams were created. But most players in both teams have played for Fnatic at some point in the recent past

Originally posted by The King:

You bet blindly, now you rage. =) As i've said before, lots of people knew about this.

Yeah I knew too, well before this match played, But the game says Fnatic, and Fnatic as of earlier today is H4nni's team not this one playing right now. So if everyone knew then why didn't anyone from Gosu, Joindota and D2L specify who the team actually playing, was? Match tickers still state that the team playing right now is Fnatic, when it isn't. So I really don't understand why your still hanging onto your point.