Originally posted by Souls Of Past Kings:

Originally posted by Bobmanbob:

Hi there,

I see you have copy-pasted another person's answer. I appreciate it if your own opinion is the same or if perhaps you are not too comfortable replying in English, but for the sake of fair giveaway entreis please re-post in your own words.

Don't worry about the english if that's the problem! Googe translate tot he rescue! Thanks :)

I dont think he even understand english, he's just copy pasting, and its MY answer at that.

Hey there,

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Originally posted by WKYZODIAC:

Hello,
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Replied the problem and waiting for email reply.

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Originally posted by Helix #newsetup:

Personally i would use. I also support login through steam. Because almost everywhere ppl uses it, steamgift, steamcompanion, even gleam. The only reason ppl dont want to use it is if they want to use somekind of botting stuff. To be honest without that kind of security there is no point of doing a vote, ppl can just spam bot vote, even steam reviews are being bot reviewed

Hi there,

I see you have copy-pasted another person's answer. I appreciate it if your own opinion is the same or if perhaps you are not too comfortable replying in English, but for the sake of fair giveaway entreis please re-post in your own words.

Don't worry about the english if that's the problem! Googe translate tot he rescue! Thanks :)

Hello everyone,

Huge thanks for all the comments received so far! It's really great to hear all of your your opinions, please keep it up!

Originally posted by Souls Of Past Kings:

Personally i would use. I also support login through steam. Because almost everywhere ppl uses it, steamgift, steamcompanion, even gleam. The only reason ppl dont want to use it is if they want to use somekind of botting stuff. To be honest without that kind of security there is no point of doing a vote, ppl can just spam bot vote, even steam reviews are being bot reviewed. So im fully agree one click login through steam.

Many thanks for your vote and comments :)

Logging in through Steam is almost a certainty at this point and will also benefit some other areas of the website. This does not prevent bot activity though, anyone with ill-intentions would just have to use Steam bots (as you alluded to). The most effective, battle-tested preventative measures will be used regarldess of the login situation.

Originally posted by PokiePanda:

i would not use this system personally, but i agree with the statements of why people would use it.

Thanks for your vote! I appreciate it.

Originally posted by Te4mB4sh:

I would not have a problem.. But login through steam is convenient as well..

Many thanks, your vote has been counted.

Originally posted by Frisk:

seems like a good opportunity for developers/publishers to get more feedback as well as the players to get a chance in a giveaway

That's right, it should provide some indication of the popularity of a game amongst readers and how it stacks up to the others in the 'Most Wanted' section. Thanks for your comment!

Originally posted by Etnopluralism:

I'm ok with the proposal but you'd have a very hard time to convince me to actual use and follow your site and the reviews regardless.

Having to sign up would likely limit the number of votes but if it's used through "login with Steam" when it's quick and also carries a smaller risk of cheating the system so I think that would be good and I personally are totally fine with you providing the data of the people who had voted.

I totally hate any begging for Greenlight votes and I think there's too much trash on Steam already and even more trash on Greenlight, I guess for trashy content you won't get me to up-vote a Greenlit page for a trashy game also that's not how the system is supposed to be used. On your website I'd be totally fine with offering my honest input though. It shouldn't be about "do this and you'll get this in return" though as far as cheating systems and consumer advice goes though.

Thank you very much for the detailed reply!

I agree with your concerns and just want to emphasize that this will not be linked into Steam Greenlight voting in any way. That sort of begging is characteristic of groups that have charged newly-formed developers a "publishing fee" to get their [often sub-par or sub-sub-sub-par] game greenlit, oftentimes incentivizing votes which is against the Steam TOS.

This proposal would essentially be a means to filter the best from the best of the upcoming games featured on the website to date, because there would not be time to cover them all. The execution would simply be a thumbs-up icon that users click if they want to see more of that game, accompanied by a 'Most Wanted' page summarizing the results and the candidates.

I hope that clarifies any uncertainties you had and I also really hope to one day entice you to take a look at a review or two, even if that's not usually your thing, because at the end of the day that is the whole point of this endeavour :)

Originally posted by Cholid Snake:

check for bots and a quick and short answer before submit, good luck with your plans. :dreadnought:

You've got that right, and then some! Really appreciate the vote of confidence, thank you so much :)

Originally posted by MNDTrix:

Log in to vote is fine by me as well as sharing my info.

Cheers, appreciate your input!

Originally posted by Mr. Freeman:

how you make the giveways?

Hello there. I'm not sure if you're trying to enter a particular giveaway or asking what the procedure to enter giveaways in general is, so I'll try to cover everything!

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Thanks!

Originally posted by Binding Of Blu ~HSU~:

I would love a "click to vote" button! Instead of the normal process, it would be WAY easier. Requiring a login would be great as well, because people strolling through the interwebs for games can't just get them without proof. Logins would discourage bot users and such. I don't really care if my profile is able to be seen via button AND I don't care if the devs/publishers want proof I voted.

Many thanks for the complete reply and I'm also really happy to see you share the enthusiam for the proposal :D.

Originally posted by Yomi:

I would use it. I also support a login, maybe with Steam for not have random people put a random vote. For the other things of the developer for me is ok, if is really confidential and only as a proof.

Thanks Yomi! Just to emphasize: the proof could be held privately, as backup just in case. Confidentiality is assured and would be detailed in an updated privacy policy.

Originally posted by RevvedUp:

I would use the voting system and would have no problem logging in with my steam account. As for the clickable steam account links and sharing them with the developers, that's a big maybe for me that is leaning more towards no at the moment. It may help prove legitimacy, but I'm sure you're well aware of how little information people need nowadays to completely mess up your life.

Many thanks for the detailed reply! Based on the responses so far, there would be no need to display the list of voters publically.

In the event of a developer/publisher requesting proof, it should of course be as impersonal as possible. From the available options, sharing the Steam account links seems to be the best fit. After all, this information is already publically available via Steam groups etc, if not in such a 'singled out' format.

Prospective games developers/publishers won't be dodgy companies hawking questionable games, which will hopefully also be evident to the readers from the included information and company links.

I hope that offered some bit of reassurance! I'm open to any and all suggestions. Many thanks once again :)

Originally posted by Mikurden:

no

Thanks for the vote!

Originally posted by Azure_Death:

Honestly I don't think that a login would be a concern for people to vote.
However it should be a safe way to do it like a registration on your website with any social platform or Steam client.
Sharing it with publishers or developers I think it should be alright if they are well known and not starters whom we don't know what might do with that information.

Thanks for the complete reply + comments! From experience, totally new startups would be happy with a good track record alone, so this information would not be shared with them.

Originally posted by J@H.cut-__^ <Seb>:

No idea :/

Fair enough, if it passes you can check out the end result and see for yourself!

Originally posted by MegaEv Skins2.com:

Would definitely use, it seems good. I would be fine if my steam link was shared. And why would a simple login discouraged me to use the system, I would use it anyways.

Cheers for that, really appreciate the complete response!


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Originally posted by saugus49:

would not use this feature

Thanks for the vote saugus!

Originally posted by CaptainKraks:

A login system would be really helpful and is going to be more organized.

Thanks for the input CaptainKraks! Appreciate it.

Originally posted by DhakarthXZ:

It depends mostly on the developers, but I would say I am for the idea.

Thanks DhakarthXZ. I understand your concern, given that it's possible for any ol' inidividual/new company to release a game on Steam. A basic level of professionalism will be ascertained beforehand and I will also retain the right to refuse handing over the account links. It will not be needed in the majority of cases, it's just to have that proof that could be the difference between a major release getting reviewed/given away or not.

Originally posted by Chives:

I would say personally that having a login would discourage me joining in on the giveaways, I would personally use the same system that Real Time Gamers Club uses which I feel is more convient to Steam users.

Hey there. Don't worry, there won't be any login necessary to enter giveaways. The proposal is for an "upvote" system to build a list of your (the reader's) most wanted games.

The primary reason for suggesting a Steam login before upvoting is to build a (private) list of the Steam accounts that voted, in the event that the developer/publisher requests proof of legitimate voters before they sponsor review/giveaway copies.

Thanks for all of the votes and comments so far!!

Originally posted by Xamantha:

The whole thing sounds good to me especially with the login with steam button.

Thanks Xamantha :)

Unless you reply otherwise, I will take it that you are also okay with keeping a private list of the Steam accounts that voted and making that available to developers only if they request proof.

Hey Mono!

Many thanks for the complete response, that's much appreciated.

There would not be any linking of Steam accounts to the website, it would just be a straight-froward login.

I'm considering the option to have other login options besides Steam too. When we eventually branch out into console game reviews, we'll need more ways to login that via Steam alone.

Have a good day Mono :)