omg

lmao

this time its balanced tho.
I can live without spam.

THEY DID IT AGAIN

WE WIN M*THAF*CKERS!

这是我们的胜利！！！！！！！！！

The only thing that seems legit for a nerf to me is -25% clip size and -15% damage. But people keep saying nonsense like rampup to splash (which should be as bad as the last nerf), and that stupid idea seems more and more popular. I'm really worried about that.

save the demo

I vote for 6 bomb clip instead of 8, if there needs to be a nerf.




But honestly, no-one complained before the nerf, and then everyone complained, so we don't need a nerf, right?

The Fight isn't over lads! New nerf incoming hopefully it'll only be a blast radius one

拯救呆毛>~<

>> We will continue to evaluate the use of stickybomb air detonations and potential changes to that mechanic
I worry It can be nerfed again.

sex

"Reverted the recent stickybomb damage ramp up change. We will continue to evaluate the use of stickybomb air detonations and potential changes to that mechanic."

THEY FIXED IT!

Till the 'potential changes' arrive. Welp huzzah

Miracle is always with us

Reason won this day my friends.

HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Reverted the recent stickybomb damage ramp up change. We will continue to evaluate the use of stickybomb air detonations and potential changes to that mechanic.
Hourra !

Requiescat in pace

rise up

Ok,I am on it.

group owner you are saving me !

↓cool!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_3MAcYyDLU
one person can summary the interview plz? it better for the people *no english* :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7jelqvvzxE#t=179 *sigh*
This my friend, it why i love the sticky !
♥♥♥♥ this nerf

guys, i think the old ones back, do more than a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ 20 damage when i detonate

Im sorta double sided about this nerf. I don't like it but i'm trying to accept it, and it's not working.....

After trying the new Sticky Launcher out, I had found absolutely no reason to use it over something like the Scotish Resistance. The SR is now just a straight upgrade to the Sticky Launcher. There is absolutely no reason to use it anymore. They could have just removed it from the game. It's not fun to use anymore, it slows down the game for people who like to play at a faster pace, and it makes playing anything but Demo Knight seem like a waste of time.

I play every class based on what is going on. Not based on whether it is in a cirtain catagory or not. Demo was a class that could be played at a fast or solw pace, depending on how you wanted to play it. It gave variety to the people who played as him. But now, this variety has been removed. What does this do? It gives the game less depth. You can't just nerf a weapon because someone came up with a good strategy to use it. If you do this, you get games like battlefield or CoD, that give very basic weapons that have almost no depth at all to them.

I was driving home looking forward to play with the new weapons, i arrived home.
I booted up my PC and got something to drink, i saw my TF2 updating and went to look to the news.
I couldnt believe my ass cheeks...
stock weapons got changed O:

Valve forced us to love this game.
Everyone loved the game, PPL decided to main demo and heavy and loved the class more then they love their cute little kittens.

They tricked us guys, they tricked us.
They wanted to break our hearts and lets us kill ourself.
But i wont accept that.
Correction WE WONT ACCEPT THAT. WE WILL GET OUR STOCK WEAPONS BACK
Players will leave and the amount of ppl will decrease because of this stupid ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

PS: im heavily depressed and went to the doctor, he said that i should call valve and ask to change it back. they didnt want to. this was another clear sign that they want us dead.

Dont give up guys.

Too .... many.... demoknights...

Sure, you can nerf good weapons like the axtinguisher and stickys. But you didn't do ♥♥♥♥ about weapons like the phlog and the Warriors spirit.

bring back sticky and miniguns >:(

-rep valve cus you dunno anything about nerfing and buffing

♥♥♥♥ you Valve. This game is ruined for me. :(

If you'd like to give the TF2 dev team your input, consider sending them an email here: http://www.valvesoftware.com/email.php?recipient=TF+Team

https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/valve-revert-the-recent-stickybomb-launcher-and-axtinguisher-changes

For all people who think "sticky it for only trap".
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2253
Sticky bombs have an additional complexity on top of this: they use the distance modification for the first 5 seconds of their life, and then turn it off. This is because it's generally a dual purpose weapon: used offensively like a rocket launcher, and defensively to create traps.

Part3
And all these idiots who dont understand the game (they dont know how to deal with demos) are now cheering because their 4 hours of tf2 per week will be less demanding on their braincells. All the while, us comp players who spend 4 hours a day have gotten a big ♥♥♥♥ you from the devs as they broke the game we loved and where passionate about. And this doesnt come from a demo player, i main scout. ♥♥♥♥ing hell man, gg idiots.

Part2
This update was catered towards the part of the community that dont understand the concept of avoiding spam and has NEVER ♥♥♥♥ING TOUCHED COMP. I say this because anyone who has played 6s know that a scout or bombing soldier have a big advantage against an unguarded demo. Demos role as the big damage dealer - a role that he has Always had, is now completely gone. The 6s meta, the most popular and competetive game "mode", is now completely ♥♥♥♥ed. Rest in peace, it was fun when it lasted. All because volvo had to ♥♥♥♥ing cater to the lowest denominator and balance the game around pubs - NOT competetive.

From 1 player
Part1

Its funny seeing all the posts stating that "finally demo is going to be reverted back to a area denial class - LIKE HE WAS MEANT" when the role of the demo had remained unghanged since the release back in 2007. But now we suddenly completely change how the class is played. A new meta 9 years after release. All this whining about an OP sticky spammer, when one of the communities favorite class - the soldier - is just as much based on spamming. In fact, rockets fire quicker and dont have any arm time. Anyway, let me ask you this; what is the differnce between an invite/prem demo and a pubstar? Stickies require prediction, just like rockets do. If you play a good soldier or scout, you will notice how hard it can be to get solid damage in. Stop walking in to stickies, ya ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqtm1Pxv5po ;__;7

Thanks Valve for killing the demo. What are we supposed to be good against now ?

http://steamcommunity.com/app/440/discussions/0/540744934460219780/#p3

good job valve, you ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over demo mains

Really nice vid, I'll put it in the group's description

demonstration of new stickys
http://youtu.be/1p8YJtu4knk