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DPM JaMaN Jul 28, 2016 @ 2:45pm
Your favorite alternative ending of the VN.
As the title says, let's discuss and choose out personal favorites.

Note: we discuss alternative endings, please do not include true ending.

I really enjoyed Suzuha's ending, it was very strong and psychologically heavy, but at the same time it was original and left a lot of interesting possibilities for changing the future in the most unique ways. This ending is so good it even was partly shown in the Deja Vu movie.
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EPK Jul 28, 2016 @ 4:21pm 
Ah yes, Suzuha's ending of Irreversible reboot was interesting. But it is rather unknown and potentially leathal for Okabe and Suzuha. Personally my favorite ending would have to be the one True Ending. The true ending took such an effort to achieve and has the most postive effective on everybody (except Yukitaka Akiha)
VNSalesman Jul 28, 2016 @ 5:08pm 
I actually wrote about this topic at one point in a google document. Here are my thoughts!

Steins Gate Ending Ranks: *Spoilers* *Not Counting The True Ending*


Faris: Can you imagine watching your friend constantly die and trying to protect them at all costs, only for you to be rewarded by having the person you saved not remember you. This is the Faris ending in a nutshell, a very creative and somewhat ambiguous ending, it takes a unqiue stance to whether or not a person should feel happy if this were to happen to them. Faris is also best girl.

Suzuha: This is a crazy ending, it's basically the premise of Groundhog Day but even darker, Okabe repeats the same days over and over again because he was unable to save his friend. He then goes through insanity because of the repetition and eventually has many crazy thoughts such as killing his best friend, robbing other places and raping one of his friends in order to "spice up" his life. This ending is extremely dark but in the best way possible, it makes you feel for the Okabe character, he's tired of watching his friend die, he literally became what he hated most, the cause of their death, it really brings things into perspective. Then you "marry" Suzuha, the end.

Mayushi: She just can't be the romantic interest to Okabe, they are childhood friends, not lovers, they are friends, nothing else and nothing more. This is not a bad ending (hell part of it actually almost made me cry, Mayushi hugging Kurisu to not give up on her life was truly heartbreaking), but it is just completely out of character for both Okabe and Mayushi. The "strongest" aspects of this ending are "the memories" Mayushi retains telling her to 'be happy' (Kurisu) and Kurisu+Mayushi's interaction towards the end, some of the DEFINING moments of the game itself.

Kurisu: The true ending but without the AMAZING final act, nothing much to say.

Lukako: My least favorite, this has ZERO redeeming things about it besides maybe the really cute CG's. It's so fucked up, Lukako retains her gender by basically feeding Mayushi to wolves and letting her die (in a heartbreaking scene *pun intended*). Okabe doesn't care and they try to "redeem" themselves by making her last day GREAT, fucking completely out of character, all those years Okabe spent with Mayushi MEANT NOTHING. This ending is a slap to the face and it somewhat feels like the character development Okabe went through didn't matter at all by the end of it, some people can enjoy this but I personally found it imposible to enjoy!
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hyrule13 Jul 28, 2016 @ 6:23pm 
It's gotta be the Suzuha ending although I loved each and every one. Just starting to see Okabe in that state really got to me and it sticks out in my mind the most
EPK Jul 28, 2016 @ 6:23pm 
Good to see you guys have strong opionions
VNSalesman Jul 28, 2016 @ 6:42pm 
Well with a game as impactful as Steins;Gate it's only natural that people are going to have strong opinions, the game has a strong emotional core which just makes these responses passionate!
DPM JaMaN Jul 29, 2016 @ 4:47am 
Great to see your opinions, guys! But I must make something clear - we discuss alternative endings, please do not include true ending. Gonna add this line to my top comment.
Nichole24 Jul 29, 2016 @ 6:58am 
I mean I can kind of see I guess how you might find Suzuha's to be better than Ruka's in that it is more impactful, but... saying that Ruka's is fucked up in comparison? Its bit weird considering Okabe turns into a marauding rapist in Suzuha's ending and wants to murder people.

Okabe is generally on the fringe of giving up throughout the series and several endings and its why s;g0 is a thing to begin with. Okabe just gives up in a different way than he did in the Suzuha

Its not exactly like Ruka just says "Yeah well fuck that bitch" or anything like that, there's still the onset of "oh fuck I just got my best friend killed". Iunno just seems weird to me to think that Suzuha's is better when it still amounts to Okabe giving up, just in one ending he can make sure Mayuri dies happily and goes onto create more life and then in the other one he just starts causing more an dmore pain to the people he love.

Overall I don't really have a preferred ending. My main goal was just to try and avoid Suzuha's ending. Not a big fan of it honestly.
Nichole24 Jul 29, 2016 @ 8:35am 
Suzuha's ending doesn't really make sense to me and in that capacity I have trouble understanding how its supposed to be better than Rukako's ending.

The entire point Okabe starts the timeloop in Suzuha's ending is because he doesn't have it in himself to sacrifice any of his friends and that way in that 2 day period, everyone can be alive and happy. Even at the end when he's super desensitized to it and basically dead on the inside that's still his reasoning.

But Suzuha offers to take him back to 1975 with her so that she can be happy and not fail and kill herself. But she also says that by accepting the offer, Okabe could be completely erasing the existence of his friends, not just his interactions with them, but potentially stopping them from ever being born in the first place.

But he still takes the offer anyways.

Looking at it in pure numbers, Okabe potentially sacrificed the entire future and all of his friends' existences to make himself Suzuha happy and potentially stop her from hanging herself in Suzuha's ending.

In Rukako's ending he just sacrificed Mayuri to make himself and Rukako happy. Obviously neither are ideal and are both a result of Okabe losing faith in himself and the possibility that things can change, just to varying degrees. Its not really more out of character for Okabe to give up and get with Ruka than it is for him to give up and get with Suzuha. It just happens and different points of mental degredation.

And I think there is some value in it, at least to some capacity, to try and make Mayuri's last day as happy as possible. Add in the realization that Ruka basically got Mayuri killed, some grief and funeral processions, and its a pretty decent ending I'd say. Though the art of them having a baby is pretty awkward to say the least due to neither of them aging or changing clothes at all.

I don't really have a favorite alternate ending, but I'd probably say that Suzuha's ending is probably my least favorite. Given me and my best friend's relationship and kind of how it reflects in Steins;Gate with Mayuri and Okabe (with a little bit of ruka thrown in, protip: don't fall in love with your best friend, its awkward), seeing his soul slowly wither and die to the point of contemplating rape and murder to just to spice things is pretty painful and unsavory.
VNSalesman Jul 29, 2016 @ 10:57am 
Honestly what made the Suzuha ending for me was the buildup behind it, there was a lot of it! You got to see Okabe constantly rationalize his actions throughout, though it can be argued this happened as well in the Ruka ending, I prefer the buildup to the Suzuha ending because it felt more natural (imo).

I felt the Ruka ending was also dark, dark without any light in the tunnel, you can argue the baby could be the "hopeful" part of the ending but with Suzuha it was left with a much more ambigiuous and "hopeful" ending, they don't know what will happen once they go back in time, with Ruka the decision was already made and they had a baby, I prefer an ending that leaves me with hope and wondering what the "future" holds for those characters.

Regardless I can see why you may enjoy the Ruka ending, it's definitely one of the more "unique" endings in the game. The amount of "mental degration" play a huge factor to why both endings are dark and either can be argued to be the "better" ending, I just prefer the Suzuha because the player got to see it happen and it was very gradual.

Also where the Suzuha ending was place (it's the first one) plays a huge role on why people enjoyed it so much, it left a HUGE impact on the player because for most it was the first ending they got, and something that DARK is sure to leave an impression (even if it's hopeful towards the end). Thanks for the input :Ibuki_DGR:
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Scythes Jul 29, 2016 @ 3:29pm 
Suzuha ending for sure. Also thought the alternate Nae path was pretty interesting.
V Jul 29, 2016 @ 4:53pm 
Nichole24, you are forgetting that the emotions of the character at the time made him lose his hummanity. When Suzuha offered him that chance it was his one last time to accept his hummanity back; and if dying was the end game the so be it at least he would have his humanity.
V Jul 29, 2016 @ 4:57pm 
Kurisu, I think the main reason that Okabe couldn't love Mayurri was the fact he litteraly became so numb to her dying that he would time it just so he would know when and where. Not to meniton that Okabe did love Mayurri in the begining in a conflicted way. In the VN I think it hints at this.
EPK Jul 29, 2016 @ 5:00pm 
In Hiyoku Renri No Darling, Okabe is shown to actually love Mayurii romanticlly eventually.
hyrule13 Jul 29, 2016 @ 5:32pm 
I also agree with the non owner Kyouma, the Nae path was also incredibly fascinating and it's sad it wasn't explored in the anime at all. I personally thought that the Ruka ending was as good an ending as could be possible with the 2 characters. In a similar way to the Farris ending where it's the best way it could have ended even if it wasn't perfect. Suzuha's ending was the best for me because it's extremely rare to see the mental degridation of someone's psyche when they actually know all along that they're in a closed time loop and seeing that happen naturally and in a dark way that isn't all that far off from what Kyouma's personallity would allow if pushed far enough but seeing him grasp onto that final hope of saving everybody no matter the risk was a perfect way to end that
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