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引用自 blissplanet2022
Was saying that i already have hundreds of videos of me and others facerolling this game (alien swarm reactive drop) on brutal onslaught, asbi, van asbi, and who knows how many other difficulties.

So i do not need any good luck, because i have already done it. and most players who play the game regularly at that level, know that already.
Brutal ASBI is a relatively low difficulty. So unless the "many other difficulties" includes anything higher, this can only show that you are taking your very first steps at the high level gameplay.

With all that being said, positioning is by no means irrelevant.
The reason why backfire, as well as the priority of safety over killing efficiency, work for lower difficulties is because bad positioning, without teamkills, can still be worked around or saved: most of the times, it wouldn't end the mission if you have enough resources to salvage the situation.

However, the same cannot be said with higher difficulties. At some point, you are not going to be able to afford avoiding certain kills just to not kill someone with bad positioning. There are a lot of horde spawns Jaeger cannot afford to avoid killing just because some random player decided to charge straight into it, because it can result in teamwipes.

I believe neither side of this argument I am seeing above is wrong.
You are right that on low difficulties, you can just use backfire instead of immediately kicking the problem. In fact, because the difficulty is low, you'd often have players who are still in the process of learning the game, in which they can learn from their mistakes better with backfire. There is just isn't demand high enough for an efficiency that risks the safety of bad positioned players.

However, you also cannot blame higher skilled players for dealing with significant threats before they become a problem to the team, even if it means it can kill someone who decides to walk directly into said threats. This is just what it takes to beat higher difficulties, and it's not exactly justified to fully blame someone's efficiency that worked perfectly fine on higher difficulties.
This is why backfire makes a big difference. An efficient player, even if they are already good at preventing friendly fire, will still have higher risk of friendly fire, just from bad positioning alone. Without backfire, at least they can still keep the team safe with that efficiency. But with backfire, they are being punished for keeping the team safe, for someone else's mistake.


引用自 blissplanet2022
And if they are skilled, team kill or noobs running in line of fire, is just not an issue, because top skilled players have discipline and self control and just dont do that, and it is something they learned over time from playing the game.
引用自 wonderful Ame
You CANNOT hold fire and self control WILL NOT help you, if someone runs into a perfectly fine grenade of yours for absolutely no reason. Projectiles have travel time, they are not hitscan. While holding fire and having self control will help you with hitscan weapons that deal damage instantly as they are fired, since you can see someone is clearly getting too close to you or your line of fire, you CANNOT do the same with projectile weapons, especially not grenade launcher, as grenades and flame particles take time to travel to where you shoot them, and if in meantime as grenade travels, someone decideds to move towards where it's traveling for absolutely no reason or for some stupid reason - no amount of self control will help you, and also it will not be your fault.

I do need to elaborate that, when I said high level players have no problem with hardcore friendly fire, they are usually accompanied with a team that knows how to position.
They can adapt to minor mistakes, but running into a horde that the grenadier is supposed to nade is not acceptable on higher difficulties and should not be expected to be kept from being blown up together with the horde.
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