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Who would win if the usa and europe had a war?
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this post AGAIN?... or did somebody just necropump it?


I already answered this : with prep or without?

without prep.. you talk 5000 nukes vs 270 without uk, 500 with them.. thats a problem
with prep of a few years europe can match that.

likewise without prep europe is outgunned (and weak by using usa equipment which usa might be able to deny parts and ammo for.. maybe even backdoor hack... and having little own weapon production)

-if usa went nucleair.. than europe would be wasted.. but using all their nukes would give freedom to russia and china to go mad....
still even if they used a more sensive 2000 of their arsenal.. they could no a lot of damage in densely populated europe.. in absolute kills 5000 nukes might kill 40% of europe.. but the damage it does to the infrastructure would be so much worse...
some nations in europe will be bettger off.. than others.. the radius on nukes cannot kill more than a fraction.. blast not large enough.. and the fallout is only dangerous a few weeks.. after that you can scoop topsoil scrap crops.. and try to rebuild..
bombs radiate hard.. but have a fast halflife..
those nations with enough bombshelters to last out these 2 weeks will be able to bounce back more than very urbanised nations with few of those shelters.

(my own netherlands is pretty much screwed dense population, cold war bombshelters all broken down.. no longer excistig)


the 270 or 500 nukes europe has right now (depending if uk does join in or not).. would be enough to kill a couple tens of millions of americans. or destroy a lot of valueble infrastructure...


so there be no winners.. there.. europe might live after being nuked and so will usa.. such an exchange is not worth ending.. but it will not be pleasant for either..

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so lets presume a traditional war..

if usa went conventianal. trying to take only greenland.. they would succeed but we would keep landing guerelliaattacks making it too costly to hold it... but they likely would hold it and I not see europe soon having invasion of usa capability...

but you bet euroipe would set up it's arm industry and match and surpass usa in a decade or two.. if they than use thatto retake greenland... or not.. thats up in the air... more likely it be a cold war... with proxiattacks in greenland

-if usa went invasion of europe.. surprise attack,.. without they would at first be able to advance likely taking rotterdam and denmark and possiblle..
-than resistance would be mounted and they be halted.. invading across an ocean is hard in ww2 usa had production capacity it now has not... and prepared years.. it now does not.. and had england to launch from it now does not...

so we would see that advance halted... than europe would start building up it's arms production.. and eventually push the usa out...

usa thus might initially be able to take chunks of europe.. it takes much more troops to occupy land as opressor than to conqurt it
usa is great in shock and awe.. not so great in this long term occupation.... let alone against a capable opponent..

this is why eventually usa would be streched to the limit and cannnot expand any further.... and from that point.. europe would eventually slowly start taking land back.,.. though it likely will take a while especially with much of the weathier industry and best ports in american hands... to fight back...

in desperation we might even switch to china or even russia.. basicly turning to america's enemies forr defendce (hey if we allied with bloody communists.. in ww2.. why not china and russia if usa is the invader)

that that aid would cost us likely some land in europe and the freedom on taiwan.. well we also lost colonies and world power status in ww2.. so thats likely the price of defeating usa..
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