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Denuvo? seriously?
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In what world does "some pirates most likely" refer to guaranteed outcome?
So not having hard proof makes what I say an anecdote? Right back at ya. Especially when you keep using true anecdotes such as "DRM-Free games sold well" or mentioning Denuvo Adoption Rates as if they have any merit on whether Denuvo is effective or not.

And I haven't seen anyone here claiming that Denuvo is "necessary", so you haven't undermined anything.

The vast majority of paying customers aren't bothered by Denuvo at all so no, the message doesn't land "hard" on them.
I like that when you're mentioning paying customers it's about the entire user base, but when you're mentioning pirates it's just a few.... I'm sorry but you got it backwards. Denuvo significantly reduces the amount of people who pirate the game with a tradeoff of inconveniencing a small % of paying customers.
You’re the one who said “some pirates most likely buy when blocked,” and you framed it as if it were a guaranteed outcome, that’s still an assumption, and without proof, yes, it’s anecdote.

Pointing out DRM-free success stories or adoption trends isn’t the same thing, those are observable market outcomes, not speculation about invisible pirates’ behavior, and since you’re the one who introduced the whole “black and white” angle earlier, don’t act like I’m the one oversimplifying, I was responding to your terms.

As for “nobody says Denuvo is necessary,” fair enough, but plenty of defenses of it, yours included, rest on the idea that publishers wouldn’t use it if it didn’t help them, that’s still a sales-benefit claim, just indirect, in this very discussion, there are at least three people, you included, who’ve leaned on the “it boosts sales” angle, even if none of you say it outright.

And “the vast majority aren’t bothered” is a bad assumption, you’re speaking for people you’ve never talked to, many of whom probably don’t even know Denuvo is there because its name and workings are deliberately hidden from customers, if they aren’t informed, their silence isn’t agreement. And the ones who are informed? They’re the ones you keep brushing off.

At this point, we’ve gone in circles, I’ve addressed every angle you’ve brought up, and your core assumptions are still just that: assumptions. If you’ve got hard evidence, bring it, if not, there’s nothing left to add.
I feel like a lot of these points.Could be addressed to your side of the argument too
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