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Camp and tunel is a real problem
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leon's femboy toy původně napsal:
i actually agree with you. people who main killer will never understand or they refuse to understand or they have a skill issue that they cant resolve and they think they are forced to tunnel. solo q, duos, hell even trios arent coordinated enough where tunneling or camping is the ONLY way youre going to win. and frankly if you think that is the only way to win. youre bad at the game. its honestly that simple. its highly unlikely you will get a 4 stack swf with comms and are treating the match like its a comp tournament. if you were in a comp tournament it would be understandable that you did choose to tunnel as thats a viable strategy IN COMP, against players who can communicate. 99% of matchs you matched into are not that, and if you think you need to play like that to win you need to take a good look at yourself because you dont need it. By killers tunnelling and camping, sure that can allow 3 others to have free reign on gens and possibly win the game just by that, it isnt fun or enjoyable by the survivor bleeding out on hook. or being chased right off hook and put right back up. its boring, annoying and killers who play like that actively make the community more toxic and more miserable. ppl want to play the game, they dont want to be playing hook simulator and whats even better about as a killer not contributing to this play style?? you get to have fun chases where survivors say gg at the end, you get to learn how to get better at the game without resorting to annoying strategies. you are not throwing the game by not chasing and tunneling off hook even at high mmr, it doesnt matter. solo q survs generally cant communicate. play so that everyone has fun and thats not to say youre going to lose as killer you might 4k but ppl will be happier in the match outcome that you didnt play like your mother is on the line. thanks for coming to my ted talk killer mains.

leon's femboy toy původně napsal:
Why is it always the obviously not-so-good players who talk about “skill issue”?

By killers tunnelling and camping, sure that can allow 3 others to have free reign on gens and possibly win the game just by that, it isnt fun or enjoyable by the survivor bleeding out on hook. or being chased right off hook and put right back up. its boring, annoying and killers who play like that actively make the community more toxic and more miserable

Uhm, I mean… lol? The very person I hard tunnel is the one who has the entire interaction with me that match. They get the whole map to themselves. Every resource. Every window, every tile, every single structure on the map. Sure, they’re down one health state when we start that chase fresh off hook, but in return they’ve got stronger stuff activating on unhook… DS, maybe OTR, whatever, yada yada.

That player is the one who actually gets the chase, the interaction, experiences good teamplay, and has the map to themselves — while their teammates are stuck playing boring M1 simulator. Yup, this Person gonna die first this match, safe safe.

.. but..
I always find it funny how the people who don’t use any of the resources they have, just go down instantly, and then complain about “hook simulator” — the ones who are obviously not good at the game — are always the same ones talking about “skill issue.”



And yes. I tunnel as killer. I also like being tunneled as survivor. This round it’s me.
I try to buy as much time as I can. Sometimes I make mistakes, sometimes I mess up. Sometimes I go down fast. That’s on me (sorry team). I tried.
(But if I mess something up, that’s not the killer’s fault. Survivor mistakes should be punished harder. Otherwise we’re back to 2018 where one survivor could just run the killer around the map for 5 gens straight without a problem.)

The biggest chase in this match belongs to me. Not everyone is stuck in the ‘I just wanna do gens and get my free escapes at the end’ mindset. Some people actually enjoy the challenge.
Some people actually want to fight.
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