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Mabwar 2012 年 11 月 7 日 上午 12:19
VAC is an invitation to hackers
cant even play MW3 anymore, not one game in any playlist every single one has hackers in it and dont even dare try and tell me that its skill that someone is piling up bodys through walls or jumping 50 feet in the air with dual LMGs even the servers have them and whats even more baffeling is that the none cheaters ACTUALY FCKING STAY?!?!?!?!? are you kidding me someone is aimbotting in the sky and your happy with that? any one of you who buys BO2 if thats VAC is either a hacker or a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ prove me wrong! moral of thread stop buying/playing VAC games you idiots it is a big please come and hack this game badge. and how the fck dare you charge such mony for MW3 its HACKED, busted done and dead and not worth ther hard drive space it takes.
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Xanadu 2012 年 11 月 9 日 上午 2:19 
>Am I wallhacking, or is it more that you ALWAYS are sniping from that position so I already >know you're there. Introducing subjective measures for a permanent ban doesn't scale to the >millions of Steam users.

How detect wallhack.

1) Sometimes wallhack try kill all thru walls like this walls not present, if this kills many many this is wallhack
2) if i use assasin but user always know where i am from any distance
3) user stat - i have 2000 setting bomb for 40000 kill in demolition, all cheaters that i know have less than 1000 setting bomb for 40000 kills (sometimes about 100-200) - it not for ban just for check user
4) wallhack user can detect assasin user thru wall
Xanadu 2012 年 11 月 9 日 上午 2:41 
and you say how detect wallhack, i know how 100% detect wallhack - just play one game vs wallhack with self assasin perk + silence perk and you understand it in 5 minutes

or you think people report cheaters because they simply play better? people try report me about 10 times from 1000 games (but my stat better in 80% games) and people try report real cheaters in game 900 times from 1000 games so i think its not problem false positive report, because report its not ban - its user say i think this user cheater - so check this user - dont say me about how you can detect aimbot its not funny, how computer can detect voice or face - you need work about it if it your work
Tito Shivan 2012 年 11 月 9 日 上午 3:23 
You keep simplyfing things si much it's not funny anymore:
-You keep assuming only cheaters are going to be reported. Didn't even cross your head that EVERYBODY will be sending reports left and right? Cheaters reporting non cheaters, noobs reporting people that pwns them, angry players reporting everyone. All those reports need to be EQUALLY reviewed.

-You want to award bans based on 'how it looks', you don't realize how flimsy is that to deny someone the access to their money bought games..

-You step into your own argument by admitting cheats can be UNWILLINGLY SET UPON YOU. Ergo you can be banned because you look invulnerable in a video thanks to someone else cheating. Congrats, you just banned half the MW3 population that did not cheat but joined a modded lobby (Because, can you tell who is HOSTING a modded lobby by watching a video?)

I propose you something. Go to Youtube, Search 'Modern warfare 3' and start watching one and every video on the list. Then mark the player as cheater, or non cheater. For 8 hours, during a whole week.
For every one you miss, You owe Steam $1 (In compensation for screwing things up and banning an innocent), and have to review the video again to correct your decission.
For every correct ban you earn nothing (because it's your job)

At the end of the month count how many money you've paid due to screwups.
ReBoot 2012 年 11 月 10 日 下午 11:45 
And another Modern Warfare thread? Seriously, did anyone count them? I didn't try to create some proper statistics, but it seems like about 90% of all the "VAC sucks"-threads are about Modern Warfare? See the pattern? Those games suck! I usually hate the people saying "Nah dude, go and play another game", but in this case, I say it myself. The games suck, Activision doesn't give a flying damn as long as money keeps flying in. Go play a decent game, the Battlefield series is great if you're into modern warfare (be warned though, Battlefield games require way more teamwork/coordination/strategy).
Satoru 2012 年 11 月 11 日 上午 10:30 
I like how the anti cod rants then claim BF is better. When a quick perusal of Battlelog shows people whining equally about PB
-|WaD|- BigMike™ 2012 年 11 月 11 日 下午 2:38 
引用自 FrazerJC
引用自 Cornflakes
...spammed fail analogy...

That analogy simply doesn't work...or it does if you change the baby to a loud-mouth drunken jerk ruining the flight and the lack of admins (air stewards) not banning the jerk (presumably by throwing him out of the plane).

Also, I think it is high time that the "VAC Discussion" section had a "COD/MW3" sub section where all these posts get moved. Would be very interesting, and would highlight just how bad the game is.
最後修改者:-|WaD|- BigMike™; 2012 年 11 月 11 日 下午 2:44
PentaPenta 2012 年 11 月 11 日 下午 7:24 
引用自 FrazerJC
引用自 Cornflakes
...spammed fail analogy...
Also, I think it is high time that the "VAC Discussion" section had a "COD/MW3" sub section where all these posts get moved. Would be very interesting, and would highlight just how bad the game is.
Ever heard of the game hubs?
Tito Shivan 2012 年 11 月 12 日 上午 2:06 
The same hubs everybody ignores, posting their stuff on the first discussion area they stumble upon?

It's not like one can find game specific help requests on the Suggestion area, TF2 suggestions in the Help & tips sections or complains about a VAC ban on the general discussion area...
-|WaD|- BigMike™ 2012 年 11 月 12 日 上午 3:44 
引用自 steventheslayer
引用自 FrazerJC
引用自 Cornflakes
...spammed fail analogy...
Also, I think it is high time that the "VAC Discussion" section had a "COD/MW3" sub section where all these posts get moved. Would be very interesting, and would highlight just how bad the game is.
Ever heard of the game hubs?

Yes. Thank you very much for asking.

My point is that ALSO having VAC related MW2/MW3 posts moved to a subsection would emphasize how bad the games are and maybe, just maybe, stop a number of people wasting their money on future adminless games.
PentaPenta 2012 年 11 月 12 日 上午 9:56 
For the record, it is not up to you to decide if they wasted their money or not, it is up to the individual player. I bought BO, and the combat training with friends/ the campaign was enough to justify what I payed for it. Like I said though, it's up to the individual that buys it.
Mabwar 2012 年 11 月 12 日 上午 10:01 
MW2 i actualy find less hackers although i do see them on occasion hack sights have mostly stopped supporting the cheats for them (ever see a hacker on BO? or MW1?) and are obviousely concentrating on MW3 hacks thats still no excuse for VAC how hard is it to go out find these hacks at there source and schedule regular (but without warning) ban waves! as soon as they detect a hack the first cheater to fall alerts the sight which updates the hack for everyone else while providing the few bannees with new seriels as part of the service have you people not seen thes sights? VAC is supposed to be a service it will take faar more than just a piece of back ground software to counter cheating in video games now and thats the point we need to agree on here. VAC are behind enough games now that theres no excuse for the abysmal lack of effort on security.

and as for anyone blaming the game again NO! VAC agreed to provide the security iof they were happy with the game's set up then they have no excuse it says right on the game page VALVE ANTI CHEAT! VAC is responsable for security and our safe gaming experience no one else!
Satoru 2012 年 11 月 12 日 上午 10:03 
VAC isn't a security measure it is an anti cheat mechanism. As long as cheaters have absolute full control of their computers ANY ANTI CHEAT PROGRAM is not goin to catch everything. Popular games are going to attract the most cheaters and those who want to sell them for profit.

The problem is far more complex than you imagine.

If you think that if MW3 used PB, ESL, ESEA, nProtect, Warden, etc things would be different you are sadly mistaken
最後修改者:Satoru; 2012 年 11 月 12 日 上午 10:05
Mabwar 2012 年 11 月 12 日 上午 10:22 
oh realy? i havent seen a clear cheater in BF3 for months mate and never in hardcore server erm how many people playin that game vs how many people/hackers in COD? not happy with that lets look at black light retribution a recent growingly popular game that uses PB again ive never seen a hacker dispite demand for cheats. still talking bout popularity lets play bad company 2, COD4 which ever not as many players in them but then again i never see hackers because THEY'RE ALL BANNED!
Satoru 2012 年 11 月 12 日 上午 10:28 
A quick perusal of the bf3 forums shows just as much vitriol concerning PB.

An as I indicated popular games are going to attract the money and cheater base. So usin backlight is a fairly poor example.


最後修改者:Satoru; 2012 年 11 月 12 日 上午 11:19
Mabwar 2012 年 11 月 12 日 上午 10:38 
引用自 Satoru
A quick perusal of the bf3 forums shows just as much vitriol concerning PB.

thats because 1. they're 80% but-hurt kids lol and 2. the lag in that game is beyond a joke if your on the right side of it no hack could compare to the advantage you'l have in that game i used to think those players with a 100+ kills were cheats till i played a ♥♥♥ server you dont even rnder on there screen till its too late but thats why you favourate swervers who kick high ping players. BF3 does have cheats ocourse but seldome seen and naturaly raved about on the forums. BUT NOT comparable to MW3 where youl find one in every single game you join not even close.

I never saw anyone flying round with dual LMGs in battlefield 3, ever.
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