Vac Ban Idea that i think that need to be addressed

[mafiahalo93]

Hello people of steam. I think the Vac Ban system need to be changed a little bit i think they should have a 3 strike banning system the first strike will be a 3 day ban with a warning letter saying ur being punished for cheating or what ever rule ur breaking. second strike is a 3 weeks up to 1 month ban with a email saying this is ur last chance for cheating/breaking any rules. strike 3 is permant ban and can never be lifted with an email saying u lost ur chances for not following the rules ect. kinda like how league of legends have it i gotten banned on there for 3 days for raging and cussing alot at players and when i got that ban i fixed myself even though i still cuss but not as much as i use to. but i think everyone deserve a second chance and yes i will admit of using hacks but it bored me and i stopped using them then a few months later my account got hacked and when i was able to recover it was vac banned i have a new account and clean account and not have cheated at all since 2 years ago so i think i deserve a second chance on my main account i believe everyone that been banned for cheating or people that gotten there account hacked and got vac banned should have there account unbanned and everyone reset to 0 strike if people start cheating the strike go up and CAN NOT be reset once the first strike been started i think someone need to make a peition for it or something because we pay for there games and to use there service we should at least get a second chance to come clean cause i know i learned my lesson. and i think it be a good idea to do that.

P.S for non cheaters that comment think like this how would u like it if someone hacked ur account or a family memeber went on ur account and downloaded and used hacks and getting it vac banned banning u from ur most favriot games that u love just think about that

sorry for some of the bad spelling

[BC]

Messaggio originale di CrazyAuburn:

I dont want anything, I am just saying they should have a second chance on people who get banned.

Ok: so let's just say Valve says "we're sorry" and unbans a hacker.

Now what happens if that hacker goes back and hacks again? It would make Valve a laughing stock.

[pingmasterofpong]

Then he should get perma banned.

[Tito Shivan]

Messaggio originale di CrazyAuburn:

I agree with this. People should have atleast a 2nd chance. We spend our money on games To play on steam when we could just buy the games off the developers, such as terraria we could buy that off their website instead of on here and be able to play forever with no risk of getting banned. The least they could do is give people a second chance for buying games through steam. This is just my opinion.

You already have a second chance, and a third.
Rebuy the game on a new account. There's your second chance.
Besides, legit players don't get a second chance on getting their games un-spoiled.

[pingmasterofpong]

My point is Everyone should have another chance without having to buy the game again.

[BC]

Messaggio originale di CrazyAuburn:

Then he should get perma banned.

As stated by Tito, hackers disrupt normal gameplay: which can't be gained back. If you were to give a hacker a second chance, you risk them spoiling another normal game.

It would be like if people gave a mass murderer a second chance: sure, if he kills again he'll be put on death, but if he kills someone, you can't get that person's life back.

[BC]

You also have to keep in mind that it states:

Cheating will result in a permanent ban

On both the Steam Subscriber agreement (that all Steam users agreed on), as well as for games like TF2 (it's also COMMON SENSE that you will get in trouble for cheating). If hackers didn't listen the first/second times they were told, what are the chances that they'll listen again?

[Saver]

Increase their chances, you'll see the cheaters increasing too.
Thats all. Psychology.

[SHON]

Messaggio originale di Saver:

Increase their chances, you'll see the cheaters increasing too.
Thats all. Psychology.

Yeah I agree, it probably discourages a lot of people who are thinking about cheating, but realize the penalty is a permanent ban. Some people will use that "second chance" to their advantage. So instead of a single person cheating once, they'll get to cheat a second time with that "second chance". I'm not saying all will, but second chances can be taken advantage of and very few people will probably use that second chance for what it should be used for (learning experience). Serious infractions deserve serious consequences to enforce a "zero tolerance" policy.

[mafiahalo93]

someone need to make a petition for it about giving us second chance cause i dont know how to make a petition

[DoomSplitter]

OP, even if they changed the system, I doubt that they would touch bans that are already in place. So if you're making this suggestion in hopes that your ban will be lifted and that you'll be given a second chance, then don't count on it. They won't be going back to temp bans. VAC works because it doesn't give second chances. There would be no point of having it around if cheaters just got slaps on the wrist. Users are given plenty of warning about the dangers of cheating and being banned. If they ignore the warning, then that's their problem.

[BC]

Messaggio originale di mafiahalo93:

someone need to make a petition for it about giving us second chance cause i dont know how to make a petition

http://petitions.moveon.org/create_start.html?source=ads.ck.mop.gs.g02.a16

Good luck actually getting people to join your petition.

[DoomSplitter]

Messaggio originale di mafiahalo93:

someone need to make a petition for it about giving us second chance cause i dont know how to make a petition

Valve is a business, not a democracy. They can do whatever they want. And in this case I don't think the majority of their customers mind too much, as you rarely see people who are not VAC banned push for this kind of change.

[Legendary old man]

Messaggio originale di mafiahalo93:

someone need to make a petition for it about giving us second chance cause i dont know how to make a petition

Do you think anyone is going to pay attention to a long list of cheaters that have VAC bans? You still can not take your punishment. You have learned nothing as you feel the punishment is unwarranted. Until you realize the ban is just you have learned just a 1/2 lesson.

These bans have been like this for many years. The last time Valve changed the ban length they increased it. They tried shorter bans. They did not work.

[Iyerbeth]

Messaggio originale di CrazyAuburn:

I dont want anything, I am just saying they should have a second chance on people who get banned.

Messaggio originale di CrazyAuburn:

I am not fully vac banned, I am only vac banned in a single game "Dungeon Defenders".

Based on your posts I just wanted to add, that your VAC ban is a full VAC ban, that's all it does. A single game (or a single engine if it's a Valve game) is a full VAC ban, there's no such thing as being banned from all games and trading, although there is a seperate trade ban which is unrelated to VAC.

[pingmasterofpong]

I dont care if my VAC ban is lifted or not I am just saying (Through my opinion) there should be second chances.