Cheat Engine on Non steam applications?

[Get bursted kiddo]

Will I sustain a VAC ban if I run cheat engine or other memory modification programs while steam is running?

[Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย mudlord:

What I meant was running a debugger on a NON VAC process, while a VAC process is running.

If bans happen because of that, then Valve is truly incompetant.

That in theory should not result in a vac ban. There has been cases where people accidentally have cheat engine running hooked in to nothing or a non-vac game while connected to a vac server, these people have gotten away without any vac ban.

There is virtually zero documentation on vac, no one knows how it really works, and all information about it is found through experimentation.

[Reported.]

In that case its about time some documentation is done so questions like this don't need to be answered over and over again

[NL]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย mudlord:

So that gives Valve a excuse to disadvantage programmers/malware reverse engineers solely because of some bad eggs?

Wow, Valve is truly incompetant.

Valve is protecting their software. You have no right to reverse engineer it and you using malware as an excuse is pretty funny. Let me make it clear, reverse engineering a piece of Valves software would make you a criminal. Do you understand that?

[The Longest Rose]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย mudlord:

In that case its about time some documentation is done so questions like this don't need to be answered over and over again

Then we would be telling cheaters exactly what works, what doesn't work, and how to bypass the system. That would be bad.

And no, you will not get VAC banned unless you plug the memory editor into a VAC game.

[duckbot]

As far as I know having CE hooked to a non-VAC process should not affect your VAC-status at all. Even if you have a VAC-enabled game running at the time.

However, for the sake of caution it obviously is recommended to close it down before running such games.

[Reported.]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย NL:

Valve is protecting their software. You have no right to reverse engineer it and you using malware as an excuse is pretty funny. Let me make it clear, reverse engineering a piece of Valves software would make you a criminal. Do you understand that?

I really don't care, especially when I said I am not reversing any Valve related processes. >_>

So in your mind, being in possession of a debugger makes you a criminal. I guess you apply the same broken knowledge to guns, too.

[Reported.]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Port_A_Build:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย mudlord:

In that case its about time some documentation is done so questions like this don't need to be answered over and over again

Then we would be telling cheaters exactly what works, what doesn't work, and how to bypass the system. That would be bad.

And no, you will not get VAC banned unless you plug the memory editor into a VAC game.

Newsflash: they most likely know anyway how it works.

[Dr. UnKn0wN]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Port_A_Build:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย mudlord:

In that case its about time some documentation is done so questions like this don't need to be answered over and over again

Then we would be telling cheaters exactly what works, what doesn't work, and how to bypass the system. That would be bad.

And no, you will not get VAC banned unless you plug the memory editor into a VAC game.

Cheat-developers can reverse-engineer VAC binaries and know what it does scan, what it doesn't and therefore they know what to do to undetect their cheat and the loader/injector. Most cheats that are detected are public or poorly developed and poorly protected paid cheats.

[NL]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย mudlord:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย NL:

Valve is protecting their software. You have no right to reverse engineer it and you using malware as an excuse is pretty funny. Let me make it clear, reverse engineering a piece of Valves software would make you a criminal. Do you understand that?

I really don't care, especially when I said I am not reversing any Valve related processes. >_>

So in your mind, being in possession of a debugger makes you a criminal. I guess you apply the same broken knowledge to guns, too.

I did not say it makes you a criminal. You mentioned reverse engineering which is illegal. The real question is why do you need VAC running while you are running the program? like a gun it can be used for legal and illegal activity. Insisting you need to reverse engineer software while you are connected to a vac server is suspicious.

[Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel]

You must have a professional degree in multitasking if you're able to debug software while also playing video games.